People Honestly Shouldnt Get Mad @ Blacks For Being Hurt By The Past

[Wolves]

Ah so you're trolling not brain dead gotcha.

 

[TillIFoundOut]

Im currently taking class on China, the reason why some Chinese don't respect some Japanese is because some Japanese don't want to acknowledge the harm they did to China, killing 35 million people. Its the same thing with how Blacks are treated in America today. You can hate our culture all you want but culture is what we have and its never gonna disappear sorry I love my culture btw, the food women music family, thats all you really need in life. Lord knows what that racist Slimreaper's purpose in life is

 

[TillIFoundOut]

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What about the Jewish? You don't see them *****ing and moaning about what happened to their ancestors. Why is it always the black ones starting up old drama.

Lol bro I live in New York, don't get me started on the Jewish, they were brought into America and privelleged. In New York, Jewish people have their own hospitals, school busses for children, police, schools, economy, yes economy, there is neighborhoods that are only jewish run. Black people living in the neighborhoods around it depend of local govt while the jewish people can depend on themselves. Why? When the holocaust was over America welcomed the Jewish people with open arms and jobs and everything they needed to stabilize themselves.
But my Black People
Brought in as slaves, had to fight in the civil war for freedom, war wasn't even fought for the purpose of slavery btw
After the war- we were put in a sharecropping system which gave little pay and unhuman living conditions
Voting- 1960s was when Black were finally able to vote, but then we had to do tests to even be able to vote, JIM CROW LAWS, please I hope your schools are teaching you about this
Segregated schools, black parents sent their childs to schools with white children with hope that their child would come back home safe, if you wanna ask why the blacks even trying to get into these white schools? The white schools were systematically and physically better than the schools for colored people, look up the gov't case Separate but Equal, Your high school should be teaching you this because thats what I learned
Theres even more cases of blacks being dehumanized in America it can go on and on, but what hurts us the most is when we are terrorized and justice is not done.
-Church bombings, Emmit teal, Trayvon martin, ****ing KKK, and now Donald Trump and his bullshit

Blacks in this country are dehumanized

 

[Fountain]

Every time i come back to NB everyone seems to have less and less brain cells...

 

[slimreaper]

You compared 100's of years of slave oppression and subsequent segregation in the US to the Halocaust years. Both are bad but Jews aren't a disenfranchised group in the us, and today

explain to me in depth how modern day negros are "disenfranchised".

 

[slimreaper]

Lol bro I live in New York, don't get me started on the Jewish, they were brought into America and privelleged. In New York, Jewish people have their own hospitals, school busses for children, police, schools, economy, yes economy, there is neighborhoods that are only jewish run. Black people living in the neighborhoods around it depend of local govt while the jewish people can depend on themselves. Why? When the holocaust was over America welcomed the Jewish people with open arms and jobs and everything they needed to stabilize themselves.
But my Black People
Brought in as slaves, had to fight in the civil war for freedom, war wasn't even fought for the purpose of slavery btw
After the war- we were put in a sharecropping system which gave little pay and unhuman living conditions
Voting- 1960s was when Black were finally able to vote, but then we had to do tests to even be able to vote, JIM CROW LAWS, please I hope your schools are teaching you about this
Segregated schools, black parents sent their childs to schools with white children with hope that their child would come back home safe, if you wanna ask why the blacks even trying to get into these white schools? The white schools were systematically and physically better than the schools for colored people, look up the gov't case Separate but Equal, Your high school should be teaching you this because thats what I learned
Theres even more cases of blacks being dehumanized in America it can go on and on, but what hurts us the most is when we are terrorized and justice is not done.
-Church bombings, Emmit teal, Trayvon martin, ****ing KKK, and now Donald Trump and his bullshit

Blacks in this country are dehumanized

black men were able to vote in the 1870's

Amendment XV to the U.S. Constitution -
Passed by Congress February 26, 1869. Ratified February 3, 1870.

"The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude."

 

[BLAZE]

Oh look it's all of slims ancestors
Is that lady used as a reference to American horror season with witches?

would be funny if Craig Cobbs happens to slimydiaper

 

[Wolves]

explain to me in depth how modern day negros are "disenfranchised".

deprived of power; marginalized.

Employment Disparities
Institutional Racism
Spacial segregation
Housing segregation
Racial Profiling
Sentencing Disparities
Social Mobility

I'll elaborate on any of these if they aren't readily clear

Most of these problems of circumstance that people are born into come from the past. It's a cycle, segregation was just 60ish years ago.

 

[HashiraMadara]

black men were able to vote in the 1870's

Amendment XV to the U.S. Constitution -
Passed by Congress February 26, 1869. Ratified February 3, 1870.

"The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude."

Such comparison

Negroes were brought to America on boat dug outs locked in chains, Jews were brought in luxury boats, and the Zion was build for them. Meanwhile blacks lived in Projects. Many neighbourhoods were manipulated by banks to be whiteless during the house bonding pioneers. So 1 black educated family would move to a white neighbourhood, after 6 years the whole place is a black ghetto because of "Bank marketing". "Create an easy feeling to the residing white citizens to sell the houses and you will gain many new customers willing for bonds"(happening in South Africa right now). 1870s they were manipulated to bring prime interest to the North. Idiot if there was any freedom then why Luther, Malcolm, Ali figures were an existence???

I keep trying to ignore you idiocracy but you are just too stupid to ignore :|

The very colonialism is what brought mob justice to Southern Africa. Ignorant be like "the barbaric Africans" yet before them there were no such punishments

 

[Jokule67]

Started by the blacks themselves. They are the first to scream "racism" when nobody is being racist, and the first to ignore the fact that more whites are killed by cops than any other race. Oh, lets we forget how when a white person is brutally abused or killed by cops nobody bats an eye, but when a black person meets the same fate all hell breaks loose and all the brainwashed monkeys take it to the streets to cause chaos. Blacks aren't the only ones being treated differently, but are the only ones *****ing about it.

Some hilarious shit right here.

Thats the thing dude what do you do when it IS racism? Racism, racial profiling, discrimination definately exists. Ignoring doesnt make it go away and telling people they are imagining things just shows how blind you are.
There are different motives behind different killings and I'm pretty sure you dont know of any white killings personally like the ones that happened to blacks. Not saying it doesnt happen to them. Just saying that it happens for a specific reason and people are tired of that specific reason. They have a right to stand up for their own and not be scrutinized for doing so.

For example, Dylan Roof being treated like royalty by law enforcement after shooting up 9 in a black church. There is extreme corruption fueled by racism, fear, stereotypes, and sense of superiority. Have you ever been called a ****** by the police when it wasnt needed(nor is it ever needed), didnt think so.

 

[kimb]

It makes no sense to be butthurt over something you weren't even alive to experience and over something that was fixed. People who get upset about the past make it hard to move to the future. Anyone who wants to get upset about the past can die with it. Me and the rest of non-victim culture will keep it moving.

 

[demon of the leaf]

I mean it's hard to explain. But when you do research and history on the way blacks were treated or for a better term "Mistreated" you cant help but feel anger cause you think of how hard it mustve been for them.

The Lynchings

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The discrimination

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The unjust crimes that went unpunished cause you were a colored victim

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Hell the evil people in history

Delphine Lalaurie

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"Born Marie Delphine Macarty or Maccarthy (c. 1780 – 1849), more commonly known as Madame LaLaurie, was a New Orleans Creole socialite and alleged serial killer, infamous for torturing and likely murdering her household slaves."
"What the interlopers had found was the torture chamber of Madame Marie Delphine LaLaurie, consistently ranked as one of the most infamous serial killers in the world. Heaps of corpses, organs, and limbs. Slaves pinned to tables or cramped in small cages. Live bodies with their eyes gouged, fingernails torn out, ears hanging by shreds of skin, or their mouths filled with animal shit and sewn shut. People flayed of skin with festering wounds. Many accounts claim they found one woman whose skin had been peeled off in spirals to make her look like a caterpillar, another with her bones broken and reset so that she looked like a crab, and one more whose intestines had been torn out and knotted around the waist. Many of these victims (some claim there were up to 100) were supposedly still alive—putrid and starving."

Willie Lynch and his letter

Spoiler

"Gentlemen:

I greet you here on the bank of the James River in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and twelve. First, I
shall thank you, the gentlemen of the Colony of Virginia, for bringing me here. I am here to help you solve some of your
problems with slaves. Your invitation reached me on my modest plantation in the West Indies, where I have experimented
with some of the newest and still the oldest methods for control of slaves. Ancient Rome's would envy us if my program is
implemented.

As our boat sailed south on the James River, named for our illustrious King, whose version of the Bible we cherish, I saw
enough to know that your problem is not unique. While Rome used cords of wood as crosses for standing human bodies
along its highways in great numbers, you are here using the tree and the rope on occasions. I caught the whiff of a dead
slave hanging from a tree, a couple miles back. You are not only losing valuable stock by hangings, you are having
uprisings, slaves are running away, your crops are sometimes left in the fields too long for maximum profit, You suffer
occasional fires, your animals are killed.

Gentlemen, you know what your problems are; I do not need to elaborate. I am not here to enumerate your problems, I
am here to introduce you to a method of solving them. In my bag here, I have a foolproof method for controlling your black
slaves. I guarantee every one of you that if installed correctly it will control the slaves for at least 300 years [201 2]. My
method is simple. Any member of your family or your overseer can use it. I have outlined a number of differences among
the slaves and make the differences bigger. I use fear, distrust and envy for control.

These methods have worked on my modest plantation in the West Indies and it will work throughout the South. Take this
simple little list of differences and think about them. On top of my list is "age" but it's there only because it starts with an
"A." The second is "COLOR" or shade, there is intelligence, size, ***, size of plantations and status on plantations,
attitude of owners, whether the slaves live in the valley, on a hill, East, West, North, South, have fine hair, course hair, or
is tall or short. Now that you have a list of differences, I shall give you an outline of action, but before that, I shall assure
you that distrust is stronger than trust and envy stronger than adulation, respect or admiration. The Black slaves after
receiving this indoctrination shall carry on and will become self refueling and self generating for hundreds of years, maybe
thousands. Don't forget you must pitch the old black Male vs. the young black Male, and the young black Male against the
old black male. You must use the dark skin slaves vs. the light skin slaves, and the light skin slaves vs. the dark skin
slaves. You must use the female vs. the male. And the male vs. the female. You must also have you white servants and
overseers distrust all Blacks. It is necessary that your slaves trust and depend on us. They must love, respect and trust
only us. Gentlemen, these kits are your keys to control. Use them. Have your wives and children use them, never miss an
opportunity. If used intensely for one year, the slaves themselves will remain perpetually distrustful of each other.

Thank you gentlemen "

Now tell me what he said didnt EXACTLY happen as he said it would.

I mean i get the past is the past. But black youth deserve to know the history and struggle of their ancestors.

School has no problem teaching us how the European nations took over the natives land and stole africas resources and conquered their land as well.

IDK man. all that stuff, you dont just shake that off say "oh well the past is the past" and move on. There's no closure.

Schools do brooch the subject well they did before i graduated cant speak for the newer kids since most now are *****s at anything reguarding that

Schools approach the both the natives

What schools do not teach mostly is the partys involved in making things as such mainly due to taking too long for such in deph looks or even teachers personal preferances or student co operation can play a part into it

And yes there were many ****ed up things in history tbe past is stand with blood we are much much more civilized now or are on the cusp of it

The ancients a roman who was captured by the goths was killed by molten gold poured into his mouth theres probably much worst that were not even accounted for all the way through to the to the colonial periods we have ideas on the cruelty and i am thankful its over with

 

[slimreaper]

deprived of power; marginalized.

Employment Disparities
Institutional Racism
Spacial segregation
Housing segregation
Racial Profiling
Sentencing Disparities
Social Mobility

I'll elaborate on any of these if they aren't readily clear

Most of these problems of circumstance that people are born into come from the past. It's a cycle, segregation was just 60ish years ago.

Employment disparities- you make up 14% of the population and are on average less educated, there's your employment disparity. If you're talking about disparity in call backs, you can't prove that is the case for every black person so it isn't an issue.


institutional racism- overly broad. Go own an institution and be racist towards whites then. White's don't own all institutions. You want to know what real institutional racism is? Preferential selection of minorities less qualified than whites aka Affirmative action.


Spacial Segregation- This is a wealth thing again. There is no place in America black people can't go just for being black.

housing segregation- Again wealth, just as likely that poor whites(17 mil whites in poverty vs only 9 mil blacks) live in these projects.

Racial profiling- Already went over this. Blacks commit vastly more violent crime and are vastly over represented in the category of people not looking for work or in school(aka drug dealers). This is common sense by the police. I'm not even a cop, but I can look at obvious ass black people and generally tell if they sell dope or not.

Sentencing disparities- there are guidelines judges have to follow. It's not like they can make up sentences off the top of their heads. Maybe you're suggesting prosecutors are more likely to go harder for convictions for black offenders. To this I say there is nothing stopping you from becoming a prosecutor and doing the same to white people. Again it's only a white privilege if only white people are capable of it.

Social mobility- This comes from failures in black culture and your own bad decisions. The vast majority of black married men with families make more than single white males, The problem is that very few black men fall in this category. You can't just look at poor social mobility displayed among blacks and suggest it reflects a racist policy in the country. It reflects black choice and their consequences.

 

[Like Naruto]

I dont care about the past, but back when i was in highschool its makes me smile seeing white and black and asians having a laugh and giving high fives running around and shet, thats what i wanna see more in the future

 

[WalksInShadows]

what pit of Hell did that woman come out of to be able to treat ppl that way and sleep at night?

 

[Wolves]

Employment disparities- you make up 14% of the population and are on average less educated, there's your employment disparity. If you're talking about disparity in call backs, you can't prove that is the case for every black person so it isn't an issue.


institutional racism- overly broad. Go own an institution and be racist towards whites then. White's don't own all institutions. You want to know what real institutional racism is? Preferential selection of minorities less qualified than whites aka Affirmative action.


Spacial Segregation- This is a wealth thing again. There is no place in America black people can't go just for being black.

housing segregation- Again wealth, just as likely that poor whites(17 mil whites in poverty vs only 9 mil blacks) live in these projects.

Racial profiling- Already went over this. Blacks commit vastly more violent crime and are vastly over represented in the category of people not looking for work or in school(aka drug dealers). This is common sense by the police. I'm not even a cop, but I can look at obvious ass black people and generally tell if they sell dope or not.

Sentencing disparities- there are guidelines judges have to follow. It's not like they can make up sentences off the top of their heads. Maybe you're suggesting prosecutors are more likely to go harder for convictions for black offenders. To this I say there is nothing stopping you from becoming a prosecutor and doing the same to white people. Again it's only a white privilege if only white people are capable of it.

Social mobility- This comes from failures in black culture and your own bad decisions. The vast majority of black married men with families make more than single white males, The problem is that very few black men fall in this category. You can't just look at poor social mobility displayed among blacks and suggest it reflects a racist policy in the country. It reflects black choice and their consequences.

Shoulda asked me to elaborate lol.
I'll post information from studies with '*'

Employment disparities
*Employers are more likely to employ a white person over a minority with similar credentials
*In the workplace, black college graduates are twice as likely as whites to struggle to find jobs - the jobless rate for blacks has been double that of whites for decades. A study even found that people with “black-sounding names” had to send out 50 percent more job applications than people with “white-sounding names” just to get a call back.
*Employers are more likely to employ a white person with a record over a minority with a record.

Institutional Racism
Not as simple as that, It includes governmental organizations, schools, banks, and courts of law etc so it's an umbrella term for everything i'm talking about. The issue is fixing the problem completely. "Go own an institution and be racist towards whites then." this makes it worse.
*For every $10,000 increase in pay, blacks’ percentages of holding that job falls by 7 percent compared to whites.
*Between 1984 and 2009, the wealth gap between whites and blacks has almost tripled despite the promise of equality, post Civil Rights Movement. This shows that white people are able to accumulate wealth at a much faster pace than black people and that there is an unequal distribution of opportunities.

Affirmative Action
If people were treated equally from the start there would be no need from affirmative action. Affirmative Action didn't used to offer a leg up to anyone that is not already deserving, and that is the most common misconception. It was a way to circumvent the existing racism by letting underrepresented minorities succeed. The truth is that the greatest beneficiary of Affirmative Action is, in fact, WHITE WOMEN. Yet whenever a black person finds themselves at an institute of higher learning or holding a competitive job position, they have to face people who doubt their qualifications.

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Spacial Segregation
Covertly. Residential segregation is still an issue. “Blacks tend to originate in neighborhoods with very high concentrations of blacks and, when they move, they tend to move to other places that have very high concentrations of blacks. Their typical destination is not a multiethnic neighborhood. The same is even more true for whites.” Residential segregation influences such things as the concentration and the propagation of crime as well as racial disparities in health and in exposure to pollution,”
*About 73 percent of whites own homes, compared to just 43 percent of blacks. The gap between median household income for whites (about $91,000) compared to blacks (about $7,000) is staggering, and that gap has tripled in just the past 25 years. The median net worth of white families is about $265,000, while it was just $28,500 for blacks.

Housing Segregation
*Black people are more likely to be the targets of subprime loans compared to white people who have similar credit scores. Subprime loans are loans given to people that don't qualify for the loan at a prime rate due to poor credit history. Instead they are given the loan at a subprime rate, which has a high interest rate. In other words, there was over a 30% chance that blacks would receive higher interest rates than whites of similar credit history.
*Conversely, minorities are more likely to be rejected a conventional mortgage loan than whites with similar credit history. According to statistics, the Government Sponsored Enterprise (GSE) denied housing loans to 40% of all African American applicants versus just 14% of Caucasian applicants in 2012.
*White households are, on average, worth 13 time more than black households. White people make up 64% of the country's population, yet have 88% of the country's wealth. Compare this to black people who make up roughly 13 percent of the population, yet only make up 2.7% of the country's wealth.

Racial profiling
*One study showed that black boys are thought to be older and less innocent than white boys of the same age (i.e. black children are dehumanized). This contributes to minority juveniles receiving harsher sentences than white juveniles.
*A black man is three times more likely to be searched at a traffic stop, and six times more likely to go jail than a white person. Blacks make up nearly 40 percent of arrests for violent crimes.
*Blacks aren’t pulled over (and subsequently jailed) more frequently because they’re more prone to criminal behavior. They’re pulled over much more frequently because there is an “implicit racial association of black Americans with dangerous or aggressive behavior,” the Sentencing Project found.
* On the New Jersey Turnpike blacks make up 15 percent of drivers, more than 40 percent of stops and 73 percent of arrests – even though they break traffic laws at the same rate as whites. In New York City, blacks and Hispanics were three and four times as likely to be stopped and frisked as whites.

Sentencing disparities
*Black Americans receive nearly 20% longer prison sentences than white Americans who commit similar crimes.
*In the USA, white Americans use drugs more than black Americans, however black Americans are arrested over three times more than white Americans for drug possession.
*If a black person kills a white person, they are twice as likely to receive the death sentence as a white person who kills a black person. Local prosecutors are much more likely to upgrade a case to felony murder if you’re black than if you’re white.
*Qualified black jurors are illegally turned away as much as 80 percent of the time in the jury selection process.
*Black people stay in prison longer than white people – up to 20 percent longer than white people serving time for essentially similar crimes. They get much harsher sentences – black people are 38 percent more likely to be sentenced to death than white people for the same crimes.


Again just doing it back to white people just enables the problem.

Social Mobility
*Black Americans are less likely than white Americans to positively benefit from social mobility. If you are a black American, you are less likely to advance in social class and more likely to fall in social class.
-
*If being raised in the bottom fifth (disproportionately African American) were not a disadvantage and socioeconomic outcomes were random, we would expect to see 20 percent of Americans who started in the bottom fifth remain there as adults, while 20 percent would end up in each of the other fifths. Instead, about 40 percent are unable to escape the bottom fifth.


These the facts believe them, or not

 

[slimreaper]

Shoulda asked me to elaborate lol.
I'll post information from studies with '*'

Employment disparities
*Employers are more likely to employ a white person over a minority with similar credentials
*In the workplace, black college graduates are twice as likely as whites to struggle to find jobs - the jobless rate for blacks has been double that of whites for decades. A study even found that people with “black-sounding names” had to send out 50 percent more job applications than people with “white-sounding names” just to get a call back.
*Employers are more likely to employ a white person with a record over a minority with a record.

Institutional Racism
Not as simple as that, It includes governmental organizations, schools, banks, and courts of law etc so it's an umbrella term for everything i'm talking about. The issue is fixing the problem completely. "Go own an institution and be racist towards whites then." this makes it worse.
*For every $10,000 increase in pay, blacks’ percentages of holding that job falls by 7 percent compared to whites.
*Between 1984 and 2009, the wealth gap between whites and blacks has almost tripled despite the promise of equality, post Civil Rights Movement. This shows that white people are able to accumulate wealth at a much faster pace than black people and that there is an unequal distribution of opportunities.

Affirmative Action
If people were treated equally from the start there would be no need from affirmative action. Affirmative Action didn't used to offer a leg up to anyone that is not already deserving, and that is the most common misconception. It was a way to circumvent the existing racism by letting underrepresented minorities succeed. The truth is that the greatest beneficiary of Affirmative Action is, in fact, WHITE WOMEN. Yet whenever a black person finds themselves at an institute of higher learning or holding a competitive job position, they have to face people who doubt their qualifications.

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Linking this cause it's an interesting article

Spacial Segregation
Covertly. Residential segregation is still an issue. “Blacks tend to originate in neighborhoods with very high concentrations of blacks and, when they move, they tend to move to other places that have very high concentrations of blacks. Their typical destination is not a multiethnic neighborhood. The same is even more true for whites.” Residential segregation influences such things as the concentration and the propagation of crime as well as racial disparities in health and in exposure to pollution,”
*About 73 percent of whites own homes, compared to just 43 percent of blacks. The gap between median household income for whites (about $91,000) compared to blacks (about $7,000) is staggering, and that gap has tripled in just the past 25 years. The median net worth of white families is about $265,000, while it was just $28,500 for blacks.

Housing Segregation
*Black people are more likely to be the targets of subprime loans compared to white people who have similar credit scores. Subprime loans are loans given to people that don't qualify for the loan at a prime rate due to poor credit history. Instead they are given the loan at a subprime rate, which has a high interest rate. In other words, there was over a 30% chance that blacks would receive higher interest rates than whites of similar credit history.
*Conversely, minorities are more likely to be rejected a conventional mortgage loan than whites with similar credit history. According to statistics, the Government Sponsored Enterprise (GSE) denied housing loans to 40% of all African American applicants versus just 14% of Caucasian applicants in 2012.
*White households are, on average, worth 13 time more than black households. White people make up 64% of the country's population, yet have 88% of the country's wealth. Compare this to black people who make up roughly 13 percent of the population, yet only make up 2.7% of the country's wealth.

Racial profiling
*One study showed that black boys are thought to be older and less innocent than white boys of the same age (i.e. black children are dehumanized). This contributes to minority juveniles receiving harsher sentences than white juveniles.
*A black man is three times more likely to be searched at a traffic stop, and six times more likely to go jail than a white person. Blacks make up nearly 40 percent of arrests for violent crimes.
*Blacks aren’t pulled over (and subsequently jailed) more frequently because they’re more prone to criminal behavior. They’re pulled over much more frequently because there is an “implicit racial association of black Americans with dangerous or aggressive behavior,” the Sentencing Project found.
* On the New Jersey Turnpike blacks make up 15 percent of drivers, more than 40 percent of stops and 73 percent of arrests – even though they break traffic laws at the same rate as whites. In New York City, blacks and Hispanics were three and four times as likely to be stopped and frisked as whites.

Sentencing disparities
*Black Americans receive nearly 20% longer prison sentences than white Americans who commit similar crimes.
*In the USA, white Americans use drugs more than black Americans, however black Americans are arrested over three times more than white Americans for drug possession.
*If a black person kills a white person, they are twice as likely to receive the death sentence as a white person who kills a black person. Local prosecutors are much more likely to upgrade a case to felony murder if you’re black than if you’re white.
*Qualified black jurors are illegally turned away as much as 80 percent of the time in the jury selection process.
*Black people stay in prison longer than white people – up to 20 percent longer than white people serving time for essentially similar crimes. They get much harsher sentences – black people are 38 percent more likely to be sentenced to death than white people for the same crimes.


Again just doing it back to white people just enables the problem.

Social Mobility
*Black Americans are less likely than white Americans to positively benefit from social mobility. If you are a black American, you are less likely to advance in social class and more likely to fall in social class.
-
*If being raised in the bottom fifth (disproportionately African American) were not a disadvantage and socioeconomic outcomes were random, we would expect to see 20 percent of Americans who started in the bottom fifth remain there as adults, while 20 percent would end up in each of the other fifths. Instead, about 40 percent are unable to escape the bottom fifth.


These the facts believe them, or not

dissecting this tomorrow

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Equality is fake so therefore by default any group pushing for "equality" is actually pushing for their own superiority. I choose the white man at the top.


Hit me up when they protest for the dead white folks killed by cops this year.

So edgy, lmao! When people mean equality, they're referring to not being discriminated against over things they have no control over, like race. We have that now, so you saying it's fake is idiotic.

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What about the Jewish? You don't see them *****ing and moaning about what happened to their ancestors. Why is it always the black ones starting up old drama.

Jews cry Antisemitism all the time. In Israel, they teach kids of the Holocaust at such a young age that it's practically inappropriate and they do this to give them an extreme sense of nationalism. Also, Jews, even though they're a minority, tend to be living at the top. If they were still at the bottom, they would be "*****ing and moaning as well".

 

[demon of the leaf]

But heres a question why vote democratic party that particular party has and was in the past who enslaved lynced segregated and even gave a lower education to blacks so tell why vote if the past hurts so much why not vote independent why not vot republican why not make your own political party im certain you have the numbers why not leave

I get the past is a dark thing but heres the thing your ancestors sacrificed and mine as well so we can move forward as a nation theres going to be broken bridges you ether build the bridge anew or swim across we all as a county need to become a united people one of the hardest things is to swallow pride and say you were wrong but that is life no one can be right all the time your going to deal with jerks but that is life

 

[slimreaper]

Shoulda asked me to elaborate lol.
I'll post information from studies with '*'

Employment disparities
*Employers are more likely to employ a white person over a minority with similar credentials
*In the workplace, black college graduates are twice as likely as whites to struggle to find jobs - the jobless rate for blacks has been double that of whites for decades. A study even found that people with “black-sounding names” had to send out 50 percent more job applications than people with “white-sounding names” just to get a call back.
*Employers are more likely to employ a white person with a record over a minority with a record.

Institutional Racism
Not as simple as that, It includes governmental organizations, schools, banks, and courts of law etc so it's an umbrella term for everything i'm talking about. The issue is fixing the problem completely. "Go own an institution and be racist towards whites then." this makes it worse.
*For every $10,000 increase in pay, blacks’ percentages of holding that job falls by 7 percent compared to whites.
*Between 1984 and 2009, the wealth gap between whites and blacks has almost tripled despite the promise of equality, post Civil Rights Movement. This shows that white people are able to accumulate wealth at a much faster pace than black people and that there is an unequal distribution of opportunities.

Affirmative Action
If people were treated equally from the start there would be no need from affirmative action. Affirmative Action didn't used to offer a leg up to anyone that is not already deserving, and that is the most common misconception. It was a way to circumvent the existing racism by letting underrepresented minorities succeed. The truth is that the greatest beneficiary of Affirmative Action is, in fact, WHITE WOMEN. Yet whenever a black person finds themselves at an institute of higher learning or holding a competitive job position, they have to face people who doubt their qualifications.

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Spacial Segregation
Covertly. Residential segregation is still an issue. “Blacks tend to originate in neighborhoods with very high concentrations of blacks and, when they move, they tend to move to other places that have very high concentrations of blacks. Their typical destination is not a multiethnic neighborhood. The same is even more true for whites.” Residential segregation influences such things as the concentration and the propagation of crime as well as racial disparities in health and in exposure to pollution,”
*About 73 percent of whites own homes, compared to just 43 percent of blacks. The gap between median household income for whites (about $91,000) compared to blacks (about $7,000) is staggering, and that gap has tripled in just the past 25 years. The median net worth of white families is about $265,000, while it was just $28,500 for blacks.

Housing Segregation
*Black people are more likely to be the targets of subprime loans compared to white people who have similar credit scores. Subprime loans are loans given to people that don't qualify for the loan at a prime rate due to poor credit history. Instead they are given the loan at a subprime rate, which has a high interest rate. In other words, there was over a 30% chance that blacks would receive higher interest rates than whites of similar credit history.
*Conversely, minorities are more likely to be rejected a conventional mortgage loan than whites with similar credit history. According to statistics, the Government Sponsored Enterprise (GSE) denied housing loans to 40% of all African American applicants versus just 14% of Caucasian applicants in 2012.
*White households are, on average, worth 13 time more than black households. White people make up 64% of the country's population, yet have 88% of the country's wealth. Compare this to black people who make up roughly 13 percent of the population, yet only make up 2.7% of the country's wealth.

Racial profiling
*One study showed that black boys are thought to be older and less innocent than white boys of the same age (i.e. black children are dehumanized). This contributes to minority juveniles receiving harsher sentences than white juveniles.
*A black man is three times more likely to be searched at a traffic stop, and six times more likely to go jail than a white person. Blacks make up nearly 40 percent of arrests for violent crimes.
*Blacks aren’t pulled over (and subsequently jailed) more frequently because they’re more prone to criminal behavior. They’re pulled over much more frequently because there is an “implicit racial association of black Americans with dangerous or aggressive behavior,” the Sentencing Project found.
* On the New Jersey Turnpike blacks make up 15 percent of drivers, more than 40 percent of stops and 73 percent of arrests – even though they break traffic laws at the same rate as whites. In New York City, blacks and Hispanics were three and four times as likely to be stopped and frisked as whites.

Sentencing disparities
*Black Americans receive nearly 20% longer prison sentences than white Americans who commit similar crimes.
*In the USA, white Americans use drugs more than black Americans, however black Americans are arrested over three times more than white Americans for drug possession.
*If a black person kills a white person, they are twice as likely to receive the death sentence as a white person who kills a black person. Local prosecutors are much more likely to upgrade a case to felony murder if you’re black than if you’re white.
*Qualified black jurors are illegally turned away as much as 80 percent of the time in the jury selection process.
*Black people stay in prison longer than white people – up to 20 percent longer than white people serving time for essentially similar crimes. They get much harsher sentences – black people are 38 percent more likely to be sentenced to death than white people for the same crimes.


Again just doing it back to white people just enables the problem.

Social Mobility
*Black Americans are less likely than white Americans to positively benefit from social mobility. If you are a black American, you are less likely to advance in social class and more likely to fall in social class.
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*If being raised in the bottom fifth (disproportionately African American) were not a disadvantage and socioeconomic outcomes were random, we would expect to see 20 percent of Americans who started in the bottom fifth remain there as adults, while 20 percent would end up in each of the other fifths. Instead, about 40 percent are unable to escape the bottom fifth.


These the facts believe them, or not

Employment Disparities-http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/white-privilege-the-callback-myth/

compare these statistics with the fact that blacks also have the ACLU and NAACP offering to sue employers on command if they are fired. It's too much risk to hire a minority over a white man, because we have no such protections.


Institutional Racism- "*Between 1984 and 2009, the wealth gap between whites and blacks has almost tripled despite the promise of equality, post Civil Rights Movement. This shows that white people are able to accumulate wealth at a much faster pace than black people and that there is an unequal distribution of opportunities."

IT shows that white people control their debt better obviously and live for the future. There is a big problem in black culture of blowing money fact. Overwhelmingly things have gotten better not worse for blacks in the last 30 years.


Affirmative Action- There is no argument for affirmative action, even you argue against it. It hurts perception of minortites, and it's plainly discrimination against white males.


Spacial Segregation- Again posting stats to back your argument that don't tell the whole story. Just because blacks on average make poor choices such as pre-marital child rearing and super high um-married rates, doesn't mean they are the subject of a racist plot. The numbers you are posting are reflecting decisions they tend to make and their consequences.

As far a gentrification goes, I won't deny white people want to live among other white people. It's our right to move as we please and take our wealth with us. You can choose to follow if you want, or you can address problems within your own communities and culture so as to be successful together like we are.


Housing Segregation- Again taking statistics that don't tell the entire story. It doesn't say whether the black applicant had the same stability in life as the white applicant. I guarantee a black married couple with stable jobs would get a better interest rate than a single white woman with two kids Regardless of their respective credit histories. The loan advisers job is to assess risk. Stop making every little thing about races and compare apples to apples.

racial profiling- Re read that Jersey Turn pike study it showed that blacks broke the law more

Black boys do look older to white eyes, nothing you can do about that

What you are asking for is willful ignorance aka Turing a blind eye to black crime, until explicitly provoked. I'm against un warranted searches of cars for all races, but you didn't make this about people vs police, you had to frame it blacks vs police.


sentencing disparities-"Differences in conviction and sentencing rates by race are due to differences in the gravity of the criminal offenses, prior records or other legal variables. A 1994 Justice Department survey of felony cases in the country’s 75 largest urban areas actually found lower felony prosecution rates for blacks than whites and that blacks were less likely to be found guilty at trial."

Don't say white Americans use drugs more... That survey was going by self reporting. White people admitted to using drugs more because we have less apprehensive views on the man. you have no actual data on that so as far as I know black people are liars.

Stop just posting statistics that don't reflect the entire story. All this last one shows is that blacks are more prone to bad behavior while in prison, thus eliminating their chances for early release.

Social Mobility- again figures don't tell the entire story. black poor social mobility reflects overall trends in their decision making, not some overall racist plot.

Collecting data at a place doesn't necessarily reflect their practices. You are more likely to find sick people in a hospital. Does that mean the hospital is making them sick? OR does it reflect their overall decision to go to the hospital once sick? Point being statistics reflect overall trends in decision making more often than they have direct result of racist practices.