Penguin vs Darui - New Gen vs Old Gen

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Same shit. Coliseum and stuff. Three day reply limit.

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^ What time I made the original thread but due to spam I made a new one.

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I want you to have the first move. Don't want to beat you too quickly now.
 

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You can do it Darui!!!!

Your fan group supports you.
I'm admired everywhere. Thank you.

Now getting on with this battle.

Approaching his opponent, Torune sizes him up. White hair was so 100 years ago. Torune had already started the battle unannounced to his opponent. He would soon find his right leg fully grappled by insects, which look to overtake his very being. These insects act in unison as the forcefully lift Tobirama from his feet and slam him to his left, letting his head hit the dirt road, breaking his neck if undefended. Soon being noticed, several bugs infest the air all around the battle field as Torune darts straight forward towards Tobirama.

(Hijutsu: Mushimuma) - Secret Technique: Insect Bog
Rank: A
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: 60
Description: The user sends their insects to encase the opponent from underneath them, the insects then lift the opponent into the air and crushes them.
Note: Must be a member of the Aburame clan.

 

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As soon as the man began approaching Tobirama, he activated his sensing powers. Tobirama was not one to go into battle without it, especially against a foe who looked so calm and skilled. Upon activating it, Tobirama sensed two things relatively soon. It seemed the chakra of the man had more chakra inside himself...coupled with the fact that there were many chakras approaching from the ground, it seemed as if this man was indeed an Aburame from the Hidden Leaf Village.

An Aburame trying to attack a former Hokage? Almost as bad as those bi-polar Uchiha you runt!

Tobirama waited until the bugs were coming upwards, then he dashed forwards at speeds untrackable by most, re-appearing behind and to the right of the opponent, within striking distance of course. Wasting no time at all, Tobirama gently but swiftly touches his opponent's left shoulder as he brings right his knee with fierce force into his opponent's back, sending him skidding along the ground marked with the Flying Raijin seal.


Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: N/A
Description: This is a very advanced of advancing the ability to feel chakra. The technique allows the user to concentrate and detect someones chakra. Using these technique sensors can tell when the enemy is approaching and can easily track down targets.
Note: Lasts 5 turns
Note: Can only be used by bio with sensory ability




Type: Defensive
Rank: B-Rank
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra: 20
Damage: N/A
Description:
A simple yet effective Ninjutsu technique, Minato will dash in a burst of raw speed and jump, run or dodge an incoming attack. This is done by taking advantage of his enhanced reactions and his fast intellect when perceiving an attack and combining it with a burst of pure movement speed. Off course this can only be used on a battle ground that enables it and never mid air. It has some limitations though as Minato himself doesn't have a high movement speed but its still enough to mimic what can be described as an "instant" movement. Because of this, if the user wants to dodge or evade attacks from faster bios such as Raikage bios or EIG users, he needs the use of his space time techniques. The technique also has some limits in the movement it can produce, which are overall linear, lacking the ability to produce intricate and complicated movement patterns. Doujutsu users (at least 2T for Sharingan), Sensors or EIG users/masters as well as users with high reaction/reflexes or senses will still be able to track the user although, in some cases, become unable to react.
Note: This version can only be used by Minato and Tobirama bios once every 2 turns, a maximum of 3 times.




Rank: A-Rank
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: N/A
Description: This is the technique through which Senju Tobirama and Namikaze Minato apply the sealing formula, that will allow the use of their trademark space time techniques, to any desired object through physical contact and allowing him to teleport to that desired location through the Flying thunder God Technique and the use of its variations. While Minato carries with him multiple kunais marked with the seal (making the core aspect of his fighting style which revolves around the use of FTG Kunais), Tobirama doesn't. To use the Flying Thunder God technique on kunais, Tobirama has to apply the seal to them though through one use of the technique he can mark up to 5 kunais (this is valid only for kunais and other basic weapons, not enemies or other targets of the seal).
Note: Can only be used by Senju Tobirama and Namikaze Minato bios.

 

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As soon as the man began approaching Tobirama, he activated his sensing powers. Tobirama was not one to go into battle without it, especially against a foe who looked so calm and skilled. Upon activating it, Tobirama sensed two things relatively soon. It seemed the chakra of the man had more chakra inside himself...coupled with the fact that there were many chakras approaching from the ground, it seemed as if this man was indeed an Aburame from the Hidden Leaf Village.

An Aburame trying to attack a former Hokage? Almost as bad as those bi-polar Uchiha you runt!

Tobirama waited until the bugs were coming upwards, then he dashed forwards at speeds untrackable by most, re-appearing behind and to the right of the opponent, within striking distance of course. Wasting no time at all, Tobirama gently but swiftly touches his opponent's left shoulder as he brings right his knee with fierce force into his opponent's back, sending him skidding along the ground marked with the Flying Raijin seal.


Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: N/A
Description: This is a very advanced of advancing the ability to feel chakra. The technique allows the user to concentrate and detect someones chakra. Using these technique sensors can tell when the enemy is approaching and can easily track down targets.
Note: Lasts 5 turns
Note: Can only be used by bio with sensory ability




Type: Defensive
Rank: B-Rank
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra: 20
Damage: N/A
Description:
A simple yet effective Ninjutsu technique, Minato will dash in a burst of raw speed and jump, run or dodge an incoming attack. This is done by taking advantage of his enhanced reactions and his fast intellect when perceiving an attack and combining it with a burst of pure movement speed. Off course this can only be used on a battle ground that enables it and never mid air. It has some limitations though as Minato himself doesn't have a high movement speed but its still enough to mimic what can be described as an "instant" movement. Because of this, if the user wants to dodge or evade attacks from faster bios such as Raikage bios or EIG users, he needs the use of his space time techniques. The technique also has some limits in the movement it can produce, which are overall linear, lacking the ability to produce intricate and complicated movement patterns. Doujutsu users (at least 2T for Sharingan), Sensors or EIG users/masters as well as users with high reaction/reflexes or senses will still be able to track the user although, in some cases, become unable to react.
Note: This version can only be used by Minato and Tobirama bios once every 2 turns, a maximum of 3 times.




Rank: A-Rank
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: N/A
Description: This is the technique through which Senju Tobirama and Namikaze Minato apply the sealing formula, that will allow the use of their trademark space time techniques, to any desired object through physical contact and allowing him to teleport to that desired location through the Flying thunder God Technique and the use of its variations. While Minato carries with him multiple kunais marked with the seal (making the core aspect of his fighting style which revolves around the use of FTG Kunais), Tobirama doesn't. To use the Flying Thunder God technique on kunais, Tobirama has to apply the seal to them though through one use of the technique he can mark up to 5 kunais (this is valid only for kunais and other basic weapons, not enemies or other targets of the seal).
Note: Can only be used by Senju Tobirama and Namikaze Minato bios.

Firstly I just want to let you know you ran straight into me, because the flicker technique is only linear and you ran straight forward which is where I was running from. ,_, it's cool tho
Secondly, this is going to hurt ;-;

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As Torune's opponent speaks and figures he could evade Torune's attack, having his bugs spread around the battlefield, including the air and ground, his opponent "appears" behind him. Having full knowledge of the quick movement via his bugs which are sensors, his opponent is immediately entangled, not allowing for him to step forward and try to touch Torune who has let himself run a couple meters forward, evading the touch regardless as he never stopped running. As the bugs entangle themselves onto Tobirama, which would be rather quick, the blow up, leaving Tobirama atleast legless. If he were to somehow evade the rest of the bugs, he would avoid his entire torso being ripped apart.

(Hijutsu: Mushi Tsukene) Secret Technique: Insect Root
Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: The user will send their insects that form roots and entangle the opponent. The insects will then explode causing damage to the target.
Note: Must be a member of the Aburame clan.
 

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Firstly I just want to let you know you ran straight into me, because the flicker technique is only linear and you ran straight forward which is where I was running from. ,_, it's cool tho
Secondly, this is going to hurt ;-;

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As Torune's opponent speaks and figures he could evade Torune's attack, having his bugs spread around the battlefield, including the air and ground, his opponent "appears" behind him. Having full knowledge of the quick movement via his bugs which are sensors, his opponent is immediately entangled, not allowing for him to step forward and try to touch Torune who has let himself run a couple meters forward, evading the touch regardless as he never stopped running. As the bugs entangle themselves onto Tobirama, which would be rather quick, the blow up, leaving Tobirama atleast legless. If he were to somehow evade the rest of the bugs, he would avoid his entire torso being ripped apart.

(Hijutsu: Mushi Tsukene) Secret Technique: Insect Root
Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: The user will send their insects that form roots and entangle the opponent. The insects will then explode causing damage to the target.
Note: Must be a member of the Aburame clan.

I need to discuss things with you.
 

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Was asked by NK to check this, who was asked by Darui ( I think ) to check this.

Penguin rushes at Darui, aiming to get behind him and strike him with a knee and tag him at the same time. Darui attempts to use his bugs to cut Penguin off as he does this, crushing the limb in the process. However, Darui states that his bugs "sense" Penguin as he moves and appears behind him, allowing him to be able to do so. Aburame bugs cannot sense however; the only thing they can "sense" is the pheromones released by the female bug and they smell it and move towards it. As Darui never stated that he used the female bug to attach to Penguin, his sensing of Tobirama is invalid and he would simply see a blur past him as he gets hit in the back, knocking him forward while being tagged. It's now Penguin's turn.
 

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Was asked by NK to check this, who was asked by Darui ( I think ) to check this.

Penguin rushes at Darui, aiming to get behind him and strike him with a knee and tag him at the same time. Darui attempts to use his bugs to cut Penguin off as he does this, crushing the limb in the process. However, Darui states that his bugs "sense" Penguin as he moves and appears behind him, allowing him to be able to do so. Aburame bugs cannot sense however; the only thing they can "sense" is the pheromones released by the female bug and they smell it and move towards it. As Darui never stated that he used the female bug to attach to Penguin, his sensing of Tobirama is invalid and he would simply see a blur past him as he gets hit in the back, knocking him forward while being tagged. It's now Penguin's turn.
Firstly I'd like to explain how your assumption is incorrect. I never once did state that I used the word 'sense' in relation to chakra. I clearly stated above that the field and sky are in fact flooded with bugs. My opponent proceeded to flicker into an amass of bugs. His disturbance in the mass of bugs is a clear touching of them, in which they sense his precense then. Being an Aburame and having direct relation with your bugs, they alert me right away that he's there, although I can sense him by other means, which is neither here or there. I just want to clear up the fact that you're assuming that I'm referring or implying chakra trackage when in actuality I'm not. But you know I can't argue with a blue, so I guess your reasoning is what I'm going to have to accept.


Oh and btw, I asked NK could he give me an opinion on what I exclaimed about and me and Penguinhavent even spoken yet, so idk what he was even going to say. It's more assuming..on your part that is.
 

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Firstly I'd like to explain how your assumption is incorrect. I never once did state that I used the word 'sense' in relation to chakra. I clearly stated above that the field and sky are in fact flooded with bugs. My opponent proceeded to flicker into an amass of bugs. His disturbance in the mass of bugs is a clear touching of them, in which they sense his precense then. Being an Aburame and having direct relation with your bugs, they alert me right away that he's there, although I can sense him by other means, which is neither here or there. I just want to clear up the fact that you're assuming that I'm referring or implying chakra trackage when in actuality I'm not. But you know I can't argue with a blue, so I guess your reasoning is what I'm going to have to accept.


Oh and btw, I asked NK could he give me an opinion on what I exclaimed about and me and Penguinhavent even spoken yet, so idk what he was even going to say. It's more assuming..on your part that is.

I've already discussed this directly with you, now you're just changing what you stated in the past. "The bugs are sensors" were you direct response, implying you meant the bugs could sense chakra. It wasn't until I corrected you on that did you try to change your view into meaning him touching the bugs, because you didn't want to suffer a blow by him. I'd go further to state that your assumption of being able to know what the bugs are touching is also incorrect as you didn't state that the bugs rely any form of information of that he touches any bugs or anything, simply that "Having full knowledge of the quick movement via his bugs which are sensors". Nowhere does this implies they are touching him, and you saying you spread the bugs around the battlefield also doesn't mean he is touching them as one can spread bugs over the field and still not be in direct contact with them, that is you once more taking assumptions of your own. You being able to sense him by other means in clearly irrelevant as you never took those measures, you relied on the bugs being able to "have full knowledge of his movement because they are sensors". On NB, it is clear that using the term sensor refers to chakra sensing or things similar, not sensing via direct contact so that point is also moot.

This isn't the proper place to argue or whatever it is you call it over a ruling. Fights are meant to be argument free, if you have an issue with a ruling, talk to the person who posted said ruling via VM or PM. Further posts about this would be considered spam and treated as such if not addressed via VM or PM. That said, you are right, my reasoning is the one you are going to have to accept as it is the valid one.
 

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I've already discussed this directly with you, now you're just changing what you stated in the past. "The bugs are sensors" were you direct response, implying you meant the bugs could sense chakra. It wasn't until I corrected you on that did you try to change your view into meaning him touching the bugs, because you didn't want to suffer a blow by him. I'd go further to state that your assumption of being able to know what the bugs are touching is also incorrect as you didn't state that the bugs rely any form of information of that he touches any bugs or anything, simply that "Having full knowledge of the quick movement via his bugs which are sensors". Nowhere does this implies they are touching him, and you saying you spread the bugs around the battlefield also doesn't mean he is touching them as one can spread bugs over the field and still not be in direct contact with them, that is you once more taking assumptions of your own. You being able to sense him by other means in clearly irrelevant as you never took those measures, you relied on the bugs being able to "have full knowledge of his movement because they are sensors". On NB, it is clear that using the term sensor refers to chakra sensing or things similar, not sensing via direct contact so that point is also moot.

This isn't the proper place to argue or whatever it is you call it over a ruling. Fights are meant to be argument free, if you have an issue with a ruling, talk to the person who posted said ruling via VM or PM. Further posts about this would be considered spam and treated as such if not addressed via VM or PM. That said, you are right, my reasoning is the one you are going to have to accept as it is the valid one.
Skype evidence has no relevance here. So you might as well infract me now as I 'spoke' to you and told you that this would be the outcome. Not once did I tell you on NB the reasoning behind my usage of the sensing of bugs, neither VM, PM, or thread. I've explained my reasoning behind my usage, which is one that should be treated with a certain amount of fairness. No one on NB knows what goes on off of it, which shouldn't be brought back onto it. That's a clear abusement of powers.

Senseing via the way I did is perfectly valid. It clearly state that I flooded the field and air with bugs, what makes you think the path he took wouldn't interact with bugs? Again, more assuming on your part. His every movement would from now on be tracked by bugs, who could relay information directly to me. That has been proven and stated in the manga. Bugs are a clear extension of the user just like your arm. If I were to run into your arm as you're blind folded, the nervous sensors in your arm would send signals to your brain and deduce where the touch happened.

And the the term on NB needs to be changed as to not have a clear assumption and abusement of the word in your case. Any other situation would've been handled differently, but I see a clear amount of salt and determination, in your case, to try and prove a point. Yes I've broken the rules after you posted to get the last day. I'll probably be infracted, maybe banned. Eh, I'll accept it. Congratulations Penguin, you win if I'm banned. If not I'd like to speak to you, which I was waiting on. If we can decide something let me know.
 
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Not that my opinion means anything, but the air is not filled with bugs. In your first move, you state after the bugs underground come upwards, you fill the air with bugs. I do not believe the sensing would be valid, but due to my lack of knowledge on the matter I would have let it slide. Though, since there are no bugs in the air due to me flickering behind you before you infest the air with bugs, I am gonna have to ask you for a rematch sometime with your stronger bio?

I apologize for how this all went down.
 
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Not that my opinion means anything, but the air is not filled with bugs. In your first move, you state after the bugs underground come upwards, you fill the air with bugs. I do not believe the sensing would be valid, but due to my lack of knowledge on the matter I would have let it slide. Though, since there are no bugs in the air due to me flickering behind you before you infest the air with bugs, I am gonna have to ask you for a rematch sometime with your stronger bio?
Lol if I use a jutsu below you with bugs it's only natural they are on the ground, I just made it clear in my second post. Although I see no reason of not continuing this battle off of Madaras ruling, but it's cool although I won't be forced to back out of the event, because I haven't lost. Up to you.
 

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Oh lord. I thought they were underground. Awkward. Definitely continue. ^^
 
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It's your turn.

Torune is marked and thrown forward, somersaulting to face Tobirama.
 
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You are doomed. Let me release you from this misery, old fellow.

After marking his opponent and kneeing him, Tobirama immediately grabbed a kunai with his right hand as his opponent stumbled forwards. As his opponent summersaulted up and faced Tobirama, the Sage of Space and Time disappeared.

HIRAISHINGIRI!

Tobirama re-appeared where the mark was, kunai in a reverse grip, spinning his body so that the tip of the kunai would stab his opponent in the mid abdominals. Due to his precision with chakra sensory and his immense reactions, he sunk the kunai deep into his victim, and then sliced downwards with the kunai, gutting his opponent on the spot as if he were a deer of some sort.


Type: Offensive
Rank: S-Rank
Range: Short-Long
Chakra: 40
Damage: 80
Description:
A technique where Senju Tobirama combines the use of kenjutsu and his unique space–time ninjutsu. After marking an enemy with the Seal of the Flying Thunder God, the user will teleport to him, with a sword in hand, to deliver a swift, devastating slash. The technique is so fast that its virtually unavoidable unless through the use of similar Space Time techniques. The slash, however, can only be defined as a horizontal, mid abdomen slash, which limits the type of damage it can do, although it has the potential to be fatal.
Note: Can only be used 3 times
Note: Can only be used by Senju Tobirama bios.

 

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You are doomed. Let me release you from this misery, old fellow.

After marking his opponent and kneeing him, Tobirama immediately grabbed a kunai with his right hand as his opponent stumbled forwards. As his opponent summersaulted up and faced Tobirama, the Sage of Space and Time disappeared.

HIRAISHINGIRI!

Tobirama re-appeared where the mark was, kunai in a reverse grip, spinning his body so that the tip of the kunai would stab his opponent in the mid abdominals. Due to his precision with chakra sensory and his immense reactions, he sunk the kunai deep into his victim, and then sliced downwards with the kunai, gutting his opponent on the spot as if he were a deer of some sort.


Type: Offensive
Rank: S-Rank
Range: Short-Long
Chakra: 40
Damage: 80
Description:
A technique where Senju Tobirama combines the use of kenjutsu and his unique space–time ninjutsu. After marking an enemy with the Seal of the Flying Thunder God, the user will teleport to him, with a sword in hand, to deliver a swift, devastating slash. The technique is so fast that its virtually unavoidable unless through the use of similar Space Time techniques. The slash, however, can only be defined as a horizontal, mid abdomen slash, which limits the type of damage it can do, although it has the potential to be fatal.
Note: Can only be used 3 times
Note: Can only be used by Senju Tobirama bios.


z.z

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As Tobirama appears in front of Torune, he realized that he's marked for one and that he has an advantage. As Tobirama plunges his Kunai into Torune's abdomen, it's met with a heavy resistance at first before being allowed to flowed through Torune as he changes. Torune's bugs compact on the tip on the Kunai , not allowing it to cut Torune by softening the impact to a dull. Fluently as this happens, Torune turns into a complete mass of bugs as Tobirama falls through him because of his momentum. Torune uses the bugs not only to latch onto Tobirama, but to also throw him farther backward away from Torune. Torune then reforms facing Tobirama as he's thrown.

(Aburame no Jitsu: Ubuge Shindou) - Aburame Secret Technique: Soft Impact
Type: Defense
Rank: A
Range: Short
Chakra: 30
Damage: N/A
Description Aburame, not being well-versed in either Genjutsu or Taijutsu, sought of other ways in order to defend against something they weren't good at. Taijutsu is definitely not a field an Aburame would have practiced a lot, so they made up for the inability to defend with their bugs. If a user is unable to defend against an incoming physical contact from an opponent or object, their Kikaichu will act on their own accord and proceed to branch out in the incoming direction of attack and meet the attack head on. Using their ability to track and notice chakra, as well as swarm, the Kikaichu will intercept the blow or object by bending around the object while stringing themselves together with chakra to act as a kind of net. This net forcefully slows or completely blocks an incoming attack while greatly softening it, rendering it useless or slowed. If the attack is slowed, it will be enough so the user can maneuver out of the way of attack, moving to safety.
Note: If the user is unable to defend properly from an attack, the Kikaichu bugs will act on their own
Note: The bugs can defend from attacks that would be outside the users tractability, but will follow the S&W of Aburame jutsu
Note: The Kikaichu can't attack the opponent
Note: Can only be activated 3x per battle
Note: These bugs are not rapid to trace EIG or strong enough to counter EIG techniques.
Note: must be stated in the special abilities of the user's biography.

(Mushi Bashira no Jutsu) - Insect Pillar Technique
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user will turn themselves into a pillar that will then be directed to strike the opponent before returning to their normal form.
Note: Must be a member of the Aburame clan.

"Give up or Die." z.z

 

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z.z

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As Tobirama appears in front of Torune, he realized that he's marked for one and that he has an advantage. As Tobirama plunges his Kunai into Torune's abdomen, it's met with a heavy resistance at first before being allowed to flowed through Torune as he changes. Torune's bugs compact on the tip on the Kunai , not allowing it to cut Torune by softening the impact to a dull. Fluently as this happens, Torune turns into a complete mass of bugs as Tobirama falls through him because of his momentum. Torune uses the bugs not only to latch onto Tobirama, but to also throw him farther backward away from Torune. Torune then reforms facing Tobirama as he's thrown.

(Aburame no Jitsu: Ubuge Shindou) - Aburame Secret Technique: Soft Impact
Type: Defense
Rank: A
Range: Short
Chakra: 30
Damage: N/A
Description Aburame, not being well-versed in either Genjutsu or Taijutsu, sought of other ways in order to defend against something they weren't good at. Taijutsu is definitely not a field an Aburame would have practiced a lot, so they made up for the inability to defend with their bugs. If a user is unable to defend against an incoming physical contact from an opponent or object, their Kikaichu will act on their own accord and proceed to branch out in the incoming direction of attack and meet the attack head on. Using their ability to track and notice chakra, as well as swarm, the Kikaichu will intercept the blow or object by bending around the object while stringing themselves together with chakra to act as a kind of net. This net forcefully slows or completely blocks an incoming attack while greatly softening it, rendering it useless or slowed. If the attack is slowed, it will be enough so the user can maneuver out of the way of attack, moving to safety.
Note: If the user is unable to defend properly from an attack, the Kikaichu bugs will act on their own
Note: The bugs can defend from attacks that would be outside the users tractability, but will follow the S&W of Aburame jutsu
Note: The Kikaichu can't attack the opponent
Note: Can only be activated 3x per battle
Note: These bugs are not rapid to trace EIG or strong enough to counter EIG techniques.
Note: must be stated in the special abilities of the user's biography.

(Mushi Bashira no Jutsu) - Insect Pillar Technique
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user will turn themselves into a pillar that will then be directed to strike the opponent before returning to their normal form.
Note: Must be a member of the Aburame clan.

"Give up or Die." z.z


I can tell this will not be fun for me anymore man. I understand you think your bugs can defend from Hiraishingiri, but they cannot. If you think they can, cool beans. I am done with this fight, because I now see it will be nothing but arguments, move after move. This isn't the NW so it honestly is not worth the arguments nor getting a mods involvement. I understand it is not my fault for quoting incorrect counters, but two quotes in a row just isn't a fight for me, even if the two counters in question are incorrect.
 
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