Pein Vs. Madara?

[LordSasukeOfSixPaths]

madara solos

 

[VongolaX]

EMS Madara sadly destroys pain as well as edo madara.
But at least if it comes to the coolest member and totaly badass naruto character, i would say Pein.
Nagato sucks

 

[KidGamer65]

Yea I agree for the most part except I highly doubt Madara will whip out PS from the beginning, but what differentiates these odds against Nagatos odds? As I understand it Nagato is pretty immobile, especially not edo. So wouldnt he have a better chance using 6pop than fighting himself?

I was referring to Healthy Nagato..not the crippled one.

Nagato can use the Gedo Mazo, his techniques are stronger when he uses them instead of Pain, his normal Shinra Tensei was far stronger than any normal Shinra Tensei Deva ever showed.

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His Preta Path also has shown to absorb chakra faster than Pains.

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He instantly ripped all of Bee's V2 Bijuu cloak away, while Preta took this long to absorb a Chou Oodama Rasengan

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But the main reason why Nagato has an edge over Pain is because Nagato is 1 body while Pain is 6, if one Pain gets taken out thats it,
its abilities can't be used anymore, which weakens the other Pains especially if they lose a useful path like Deva or Preta.

 

[Brooks]

Pain is Nagato. :|

Not really....Nagato himself a person without the Paths while the Paths don't have Nagato fighting with them.

 

['Nāpalm]

Pain wins low-mid diff.

your high right?

 

[Carlhens]

Madara

 

[Brooks]

EMS Madara>6 paths of pain

Nagato>EMS Madara

Edo Madara>Nagato

fact people

 

[binderr]

Perfect Susanoo, its slash will take out most of the paths in 1 hit.

Human Path is useless when Madara is inside Susanoo.

Naraka is useless since he will never get a hold of Madara and Madara will take him out at the beginning so he can't bring back his paths after they get beaten.

Asura Path missiles are tanked by Perfect Susanoo.

Animal Path and its summons are fodderized by Perfect Susanoo.

Deva and Preta are the real problems here, but Preta isn't absorbing a shock wave from PS's sword swing..it gets fodderized by a mountain cutting shock wave.

Deva gets taken out during its 5 second interval, the only way it can block PS's slash, is if it repels it using Shinra Tensei and PS slashes happen in a split second, Deva isn't blocking this one, nor is it dodging something that has this much range.

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What really kills Pains chances of winning, is the fact that they are all in 6 separate bodies instead of 1 body like Nagato is. Nagato has other means to defend himself during the 5 second interval as his paths are much stronger and execute faster than Pains do, and if the Pains aren't together at all times vs Madara..then they lose horribly, even worse than they would lose together.

dude you put way to much faith in PS. what makes you think Madara even has the chakra for PS?

 

[RikudoKami]

It has to be just Nagato pein cuts his power into 6 individual portions

 

[Deadai]

It has to be just Nagato pein cuts his power into 6 individual portions

But 6POP is still being controlled by one body so it is still considered a 1v1 battle.

 

[KidGamer65]

dude you put way to much faith in PS. what makes you think Madara even has the chakra for PS?

-Madara fought Hashirama at the VoTE..with PS.

-Madara had the strongest, and greatest chakra the Uchiha had seen at the time, so it is pretty clear that he has a lot of chakra.

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Not to mention the Uchiha had unparalleled chakra.

-He was able to fight Hashirama with other various techniques, control Kyuubi and use PS all in one battle..what makes you think he won't have enough chakra to use PS for this battle?

 

[zeuspater]

nagato>ems madara.

 

[Klad]

Madara Uchiha!

 

[MrSimple]

EMS Madara>6pop if PS is ems jutsu.
Edo Madara is out of question.

 

[Deadai]

off topic rant:

And this is why Vs threads should show up in the "Latest Threads" section they are obviously an underrated topic.People like pinning character's vs other character's this is just a hunch but I am guessing the majority of Nb'ers wait around the homepage like myself for a new thread to show up and do not go searching in specific sections.

On Topic: I wonder how EMS Madara will handle the multi-headed dog and other summons.

 

[Strict]

Any form of Madara down to his prime where he only possessed the EMS, will destroy Pain.

 

[StraawHat]

Perfect Susanoo, its slash will take out most of the paths in 1 hit.

Human Path is useless when Madara is inside Susanoo.

Naraka is useless since he will never get a hold of Madara and Madara will take him out at the beginning so he can't bring back his paths after they get beaten.

Asura Path missiles are tanked by Perfect Susanoo.

Animal Path and its summons are fodderized by Perfect Susanoo.

Deva and Preta are the real problems here, but Preta isn't absorbing a shock wave from PS's sword swing..it gets fodderized by a mountain cutting shock wave.

Deva gets taken out during its 5 second interval, the only way it can block PS's slash, is if it repels it using Shinra Tensei and PS slashes happen in a split second, Deva isn't blocking this one, nor is it dodging something that has this much range.

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What really kills Pains chances of winning, is the fact that they are all in 6 separate bodies instead of 1 body like Nagato is. Nagato has other means to defend himself during the 5 second interval as his paths are much stronger and execute faster than Pains do, and if the Pains aren't together at all times vs Madara..then they lose horribly, even worse than they would lose together.

Wow jaysus, that really answered my questio and my doubts verry well!

 

[UchihaKira]

I was referring to Healthy Nagato..not the crippled one.

Nagato can use the Gedo Mazo, his techniques are stronger when he uses them instead of Pain, his normal Shinra Tensei was far stronger than any normal Shinra Tensei Deva ever showed.

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When has Nagato been healthy (not crippled) WITH experience to use all of his abilities to the fullest extent? He became crippled first time he summoned the gedo and he was pretty inexperienced with his rinnegan when that happened if Im correct. Unless Im missing something there's no such thing as a not crippled full power Nagato.
His Preta Path also has shown to absorb chakra faster than Pains.

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He instantly ripped all of Bee's V2 Bijuu cloak away, while Preta took this long to absorb a Chou Oodama Rasengan

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But the main reason why Nagato has an edge over Pain is because Nagato is 1 body while Pain is 6, if one Pain gets taken out thats it,
its abilities can't be used anymore, which weakens the other Pains especially if they lose a useful path like Deva or Preta.

When was Nagato at full power and not crippled? unless im mistaken he got crippled the first time he summoned gedo and he wasnt very experienced with his rinnegan when that happened. so unless im missing something full power non crippled Nagato doesnt exist?

 

[KidGamer65]

When was Nagato at full power and not crippled? unless im mistaken he got crippled the first time he summoned gedo and he wasnt very experienced with his rinnegan when that happened. so unless im missing something full power non crippled Nagato doesnt exist?

The last time he was healthy was in fact during the Hanzo fight...he was able to summon the Gedo and he was able to use Shinra Tensei so I would say it isn't too far fetched to say he was good at using the Rinnegan by that time..he had already had the Rinnegan for years by that time.

 

[UchihaKira]

The last time he was healthy was in fact during the Hanzo fight...he was able to summon the Gedo and he was able to use Shinra Tensei so I would say it isn't too far fetched to say he was good at using the Rinnegan by that time..he had already had the Rinnegan for years by that time.

I agree he wasnt completely inexperienced but definately not experienced enough to stand a chance against Madara imo. If you're just talking about theoretically if he was healthy and full power I agree but I usually prefer using characters at a particular point in time in vs threads not the best of 2 particular points in time combined unless it's specified. Still a pretty cool analysis though you're keeping me fairly entertained while im in this long ass line at comcast lmao.