Pein versus Itachi

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The Six paths of Pein versus Itachi Uchiha.

Location: Minato versus Killer Bee and A.

Distance: Thirty meters.

Intel: Manga for Pein, full for Itachi.

Conditions: Itachi is healthy and possesses the crow with Shisui's eye in it. Although KA is under a cool down still. Pein is in a standard formation, as he was against Naruto.

Restrictions: Chibaku Tensei is unable to be used for the first few minutes of the fight.

Scenario Two: Itachi has on him one soldier pill, Pein has full knowledge and isn't restricted.




Who wins this? I think it's a relatively close match up with a slight edge in Pein's favor, but I'd love to see some arguments for Itachi as well.
 

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Lol so many restriction.
Itachi can't take on the summons and everything else.
If it was a restricted Nagato. Instead of restricted Pain, Itachi would have more chances.

Nagato still wins.
 

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itachi easily

he's the smartest person in nv and has the best strategical and tactical mind ever

giving him full intel means he wrecks the paths

not to mention the soldier pill gives him enough chakra and stamina for, and i quote from the manga "to fight for three days without reprieve!"

the only argument is that he'll die from "stamina"

not now
Forgetting about Kakashi, Minato and Madara are we now?
 

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not at all. minato is stupid and madara is manipulative but not smart in the way itachi is.

kakashi is smart but tactically is not on the level of sasuke and shikamaru/shikaku and itachi. these four are just too intelligent, especially itachi
How is Minato stupid...

Really Kakashi isn't tactically wise better than Sasuke and Shikamaru...

Kakashi is at least even with them
 

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Itachi, he'd be a ****ing troll, srsly imagine how many tricks Itachi would have waiting for pein.
Lolz the funny part about Itachi and his tricks are no one can guess them, prove me wrong NB'rs.
 

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Pain wins both.

KA and Tsukuyomi don't work on the Rinnegan or even the Pain bodies. The Rinnegan canonically is immune to the Infinite Tsukuyomi, the strongest Genjutsu. Tsukuyomi is useless here. Not to mention that Pain bodies are Chakra puppets with dead functioning brain; so that throws KA out of the window. Amatersu is countered by either Preta path, or Deva path. Pain overwhelms Itachi with their formation and surprise attacks.​
 

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Pain wins both.

KA and Tsukuyomi don't work on the Rinnegan or even the Pain bodies. The Rinnegan canonically is immune to the Infinite Tsukuyomi, the strongest Genjutsu. Tsukuyomi is useless here. Not to mention that Pain bodies are Chakra puppets with dead functioning brain; so that throws KA out of the window. Amatersu is countered by either Preta path, or Deva path. Pain overwhelms Itachi with their formation and surprise attacks.​
The Sāmsara is only able to resist Rinnegan Genjutsu: Mugen Tsukuyomi, however nothing is said about Sharingan nor Mangekyō Genjutsu's .

Pain bodies have been affected by Genjutsu previously (Mugen: Onsa). Nothing suggests Sharingan cannot do the same .

Preta Realm indeed is a viable counter, but on another body, Deva Realm cannot counter Amaterasu.

Itachi surpasses them in both Taijutsu and Ninjutsu easily, so he should win.​
 
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Pain wins both.

KA and Tsukuyomi don't work on the Rinnegan or even the Pain bodies. The Rinnegan canonically is immune to the Infinite Tsukuyomi, the strongest Genjutsu. Tsukuyomi is useless here. Not to mention that Pain bodies are Chakra puppets with dead functioning brain; so that throws KA out of the window. Amatersu is countered by either Preta path, or Deva path. Pain overwhelms Itachi with their formation and surprise attacks.​
The Rinnegan has not been shown to be immune to anything. Susano'o blocks outside light, which is why Sasuke was not affected.
 

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The Rinnegan has not been shown to be immune to anything. Susano'o blocks outside light, which is why Sasuke was not affected.
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The Sāmsara is only able to resist Rinnegan Genjutsu: Mugen Tsukuyomi, however nothing is said about Sharingan nor Mangekyō Genjutsu's .

Pain bodies have been affected by Genjutsu previously (Mugen: Onsa). Nothing suggests Sharingan cannot do the same .

Preta Realm indeed is a viable counter, but on another body, Deva Realm cannot counter Amaterasu.

Itachi surpasses them in both Taijutsu and Ninjutsu easily, so he should win.​


The panel is clearly pointing at Sasuke's Rinnegan, as clear indication that only Rinnegan can do the job. People who have been affected by the Genjutsu are reflected with the Rinnegan. The burden of proof is on you to prove that Sharingan is immune; which in this case, you can't.

Sound Genjutsu has different workings than visual Genjutsu. The illusion is within the vibration waves of sound, which responds to the ear drum and is inside the Genjutsu. Besides...

Shikamaru Nara states that among genjutsu the most dangerous are those that affect the opponent with sound allowing the user to stay out of sight. Tayuya is a great example of this sound-based, long-range type of combat.[5]
Not really. [ ]

The shared vision between the bodies can see through Itachi's movements. Not to mention Asura path can overwhelm him.​
 
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