[Theory] Paths for Peace-(Hagoromo's Plan) Part Two: Indra

[ANiMUS]

Paths for Peace-Part Two: Indra
Intro​

Thank you for coming and to begin allow me to basically tell you that this thread is the second of a set. I am basically proposing that I have uncovered the overall plot. Yeah, I know most of us have, but these threads will basically focus on the symbolism that Kishimoto uses in the story and how it focuses on the different paths in which the characters take and how it relates to Kaguya, Indra, Ashura's is a little self explanatory, but I will also discuss how it all ties in to the So6P’s overall plot for peace. For those who have not read my Part One thread about Kaguya you can find it

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What is Indra?

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Tbh that question alone is what annoyed the hell out of me ever since I realized that the symbol for Indra is a crescent moon, not just the moon in general so I decided to go back a few chapters and see what our original understanding of Indra was

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So basically going according to this page Indra's path is to rule by force or power, but isn't that Kaguya's thing???_@:
After doing A LOT of thinking I have come to realize that their paths are actually very similar, but the fact that Kaguya's path is the full moon while Indra's is a crescent goes to show you that in some way Indra's path is lesser than Kaguya's. How? Indra's path is incomplete:yeah:

Kaguya ruled pretty much based on her own ideals and solely through her own power, however Indra is much weaker than Kaguya, meaning that unlike Kaguya it is possible for Indra's power to be check, but just like Kaguya Indra's path is to utilize power in order to perceive darkness or problems and basically right wrongs. through force. (Sadly that includes vengeance )

Indra used his power to enforce his father's ninshuu

Madara used his power in order to fight fight against the Senju and to protect his clan

Sasuke used his power to avenge his clan and now to pursue his own path for peace

Why Indra becomes Evil

Pretty much this :snick:

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NO! NOT LEAVING SAKURA XD

OK, since the chapter came out showing that the circle represents the sun and that the crescent moon represents Indra I have been racking my brain over why Sakura actually has the sun circles all over her outfit and it seems that Sakura is something like a representative of the sun path of sorts and this is not a pairing thread, but this chapter is literally filled with crescent moons and in particular is this page.

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Sasuke openly states that he can't follow the same path as Naruto and Sakura. I explicitly chose the chapter of Sasuke's separation with Sakura because it is the chapter with the symbolism of Sasuke leaving the path of the sun the path which Naruto and Sakura walk to pursue the path of Indra by venturing into the dark and as a result eventually became consumed by darkness.

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So when Indra abandons the light to destroy the darkness or pursue his goals he eventually himself becomes corrupted
That being said its not just Sasuke

Indra

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Set out alone in order to uphold the Sage's Ninshuu

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Only to later go against his father's wishes and try to kill Ashura

Madara
Madara actually went the process twice. The first is Madara cutting his ties with Hashirama in order to pursue his vengeance against the Senju.

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And eventually disregarded the safety of his clan that he initially wanted to protect in order to pursue conflict with the Senju.
The second is when Madara realized that he had lost favor with the Uchiha. Madara read the tablet, fell into not only into despair, but further into darkness and once again rejected the light. This time however instead of pursuing a set target, Madara turned against the world and therefore became Kaguya.

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Okay, so to summarize Indra's path is to pursue peace by utilizing their power in order to perceive darkness or problems and basically right wrongs through force.

Indra falls into darkness when they forsake the light of the sun in order to pursue their goals and as a result they themselves become consumed with darkness.

Thanks for reading :bye:

Hopefully I will have the final thread out tomorrow and it will focus on the Hagoromo's Plan involving Indra and Ashura

 

[Dãrth1]

I agree with all

 

[Dante Demiurges]

The difference between the so called Kaguya path and Indra path is that those that follow Indra's plan can't get TNJ'ed and are ready to take any step toward achieving their goal where those that follow Kaguya's path regret what they have done and don't accept reality.

 

[ANiMUS]

The difference between the so called Kaguya path and Indra path is that those that follow Indra's plan can't get TNJ'ed and are ready to take any step toward achieving their goal where those that follow Kaguya's path regret what they have done and don't accept reality.

Well, yeah 2 out of the 3 that took Kaguya's path did get TNJ'd and even Itachi after death showed that he regretted his actions. In the end Kaguya's path is doomed to failure.

 

[Manry]

Once again great thread, though I think What separates the kaguya and indra paths isn't power levels but the scale of their actions (as sasuke is already extremely more powerful than Indra).

For example:

Kaguya, Madara: world peace

Sasuke, indra: revenge

So the Indra path is selfish while kaguyas is "noble"

 

[Zealous Sparks]

Again great theory.

The more a person who follows Indra's path falls into darkness and forsakes the light, the less complete and therefore less bright the moon is shown.

 

[ANiMUS]

Once again great thread, though I think What separates the kaguya and indra paths isn't power levels but the scale of their actions (as sasuke is already extremely more powerful than Indra).

For example:

Kaguya, Madara: world peace

Sasuke, indra: revenge

So the Indra path is selfish while kaguyas is "noble"

Actually, its not the power level, but what that power means. One way or another each incarnation of Indra pursued peace in their own way

Again great theory.

The more a person who follows Indra's path falls into darkness and forsakes the light, the less complete and therefore less bright the moon is shown.

Well, Sasuke's moon with the exception of recently has only been shown during his separation with Sakura i think. The light represents ppl. The deeper you go into darkness the less you notice others around you and eventually you either become a mad dog or Kaguya and decide the entire world is wrong.

 

[Manry]

Actually, its not the power level, but what that power means. One way or another each incarnation of Indra pursued peace in their own way

Right, I said it's not power, but you did in your op

 

[Zealous Sparks]

Well, Sasuke's moon with the exception of recently has only been shown during his separation with Sakura i think. The light represents ppl. The deeper you go into darkness the less you notice others around you and eventually you either become a mad dog or Kaguya and decide the entire world is wrong.

That makes sense. Karin did think that as Sasuke's chakra became darker and darker, he himself also began to act cold and distant.

 

[BLAZE]

nice bro ......

 

[so12p]

Makes sense and goes further to explain suckske's more recent comments (specifically when he showed up in the war and announced why he was going to be hokage) about wanting to tear everything down and build his view of the village.

It is easy to see from your analysis that he continues even now on that singular path. Maybe he has changed somewhat - we still don't know the conversation he had with the SO6P - but his behavior and language does not seem does not seem to be different in these last two chapters.

 

[Naruto Uzumaki Sage]

That is a very interesting theory, great job it makes sense.