Path Abilities

[Rikudou Tobi]

Except that he didn't use full Susanoo there, it's not even confirmed if that's Susanoo's shroud, in anime it's just ordinary chakra. You still didn't prove what else Madara used there if not Preta. Hand argument is laughable at best. Preta path corspe was raising both hands while creating barrier, I guess he was using different jutsu then?

Using anime as a retort is laughable at best, and it’s clear that he used susano’o flames because the obvious flames being emitted from his body. Something that gaikido cannot do. And there wasn’t even a barrier either, so how can you argu that when the laser beams went right passed Madara too?
Gaikido has used one hand, two hands, and no hands to absorb chakra or ninjutsu from his opponents. Edo Madara on the other hand has not. He can’t even absorb chakra from Lee’s cloak but Nagato can.

Yes Madara didn't react to Lee. He did not fail to absorb anything, he simply didn't try because he didn't react period.

Wrong. He needed to remain connected to the jyubi to control its power. Saying that he didn’t want to is not only a bad speculation but it doesn’t make sense if the goal was to remain connected to the jyubi to fight against the SA that were trying to disconnect them from the jyubi in the first place.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Yes. Hagoromo can, doesnt mean madara should. I was using that ass wide nonsensical garbage logic against idiots. "Dont drag other member" mwahahaha whine more. Didnt prove sh t but good at whining i see. The databook only lists nagato and SO6P as BT and ST users. Prove me wrong with scans instead of making ass wide ass sprouted logic which gets nowhere.

Again, it doesn’t matter if madara can, someone else can, making nagato not the sole user. You just said it yourself lol

 

[SeveN797]

Using anime as a retort is laughable at best, and it’s clear that he used susano’o flames because the obvious flames being emitted from his body. Something that gaikido cannot do. And there wasn’t even a barrier either, so how can you argu that when the laser beams went right passed Madara too?
Gaikido has used one hand, two hands, and no hands to absorb chakra or ninjutsu from his opponents. Edo Madara on the other hand has not. He can’t even absorb chakra from Lee’s cloak but Nagato can.

You do realize you're the only one that thinks he didn't use preta there? I get it that you're one of those guys who is trying to make their fav Nagato look better by telling everyone that some of the rinnegan's jutsu's are unique to him, but atleast you should know when to give up and leave thread because no one is buying this bullshit.

Flames are covering his body, but not his hand which he raised to create orb. Orb has clearly different shape than flames, unless you can't see the difference then we're done and susanoo cannot be formed in such shape.

Wrong. He needed to remain connected to the jyubi to control its power. Saying that he didn’t want to is not only a bad speculation but it doesn’t make sense if the goal was to remain connected to the jyubi to fight against the SA that were trying to disconnect them from the jyubi in the first place.

I've never said Madara "didn't want", but that he failed to react which is big difference. Lying about words I used will get you nowhere.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

So6P is the man who unveiled the secrets of ninjutsu. "Secrets" = unknown. He knows all the mechanics behind 99% jutsu so your argument is falsified. Madara doesnt know all the secrets. Nagato doesnt know all the secrets but coincidently he found out the secret behind the six realms like tobirama found out the secret behind edo tensei summoning from the impure world which is a realm. Tobirama's edo tensei was easily cancelled by SO6P. and he could summon it too. Does that hashirama can do that? Despite being more powerful than tobirama? No. It depends on who finds the secret mechanics behind realm oriented jutsus. This thread was to prove preta isnt a rinnegan granted jutsu, but an edo tensei similar jutsu like all the other paths are. Someone's foolish enough to bring SO6P to an irrelevant thread. So rinnegan doesnt use preta and madara is not stated as a user, so you concede then? Looks like rats are outta arguments so cling on to SO6P feats Lmfaoooo go away clowns.

I’d say the foolish one is someone thinking the original user of the eyes doesn’t have access to a power specific to that eye. Aside from that, your whining doesn’t matter, someone else can do them, making nagato not the sole user. It’s called Preta Path, he can only use it with the rinnegan, how is it not a rinnegan granted jutsu? Your backtracking is unraveling quickly. Also, @bold, I’m glad you agree its an irrelevant thread

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

I’d say the foolish one is someone thinking the original user of the eyes doesn’t have access to a power specific to that eye. Aside from that, your whining doesn’t matter, someone else can do them, making nagato not the sole user. It’s called Preta Path, he can only use it with the rinnegan, how is it not a rinnegan granted jutsu? Your backtracking is unraveling quickly. Also, @bold, I’m glad you agree its an irrelevant thread

Bahahahahahaha foolish retards. Why was BT and ST not listed as madara or obito jutsu? Realms are worlds in the naruto verse, limbo is a realm not connected to the narutoverse. Why do you think deva is deva realm as in Tenďo? Which literally means, heaven realm or world. Edo Tensei means Impure realm or world ressurection. Rinnegan is a way of getting access to these realms hence why the databook specifically says "Nagato's eyes" instead of "rinnegan's power". The world itself is not rinnegan's jutsu, its a link to accessing the said realm. Nagato has found out the secret of linking all six with his rinnegan, madara has found out the existence of limbo. The rinnegan has only access to one realm in common: the Seventh path realm: Rinne Tensei. Or madara would be using all the paths at once like nagato. Which he doesnt so show proof of him using any other paths. You dont have proof so why dont you concede. So what if he isnt the sole user? Is tobirama the sole user of edo tensei? I dont care if a million people with million dicks can use it, prove madara can for godsake instead of lagging this out.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Bahahahahahaha foolish retards. Why was BT and ST not listed as madara or obito jutsu? Realms are worlds in the naruto verse, limbo is a realm not connected to the narutoverse. Why do you think deva is deva realm as in Tenďo? Which literally means, heaven realm or world. Edo Tensei means Impure realm or world ressurection. Rinnegan is a way of getting access to these realms hence why the databook specifically says "Nagato's eyes" instead of "rinnegan's power". The world itself is not rinnegan's jutsu, its a link to accessing the said realm. Nagato has found out the secret of linking all six with his rinnegan, madara has found out the existence of limbo. The rinnegan has only access to one realm in common: the Seventh path realm: Rinne Tensei. Or madara would be using all the paths at once like nagato. Which he doesnt so show proof of him using any other paths. You dont have proof so why dont you concede. So what if he isnt the sole user? Is tobirama the sole user of edo tensei? I dont care if a million people with million dicks can use it, prove madara can for godsake instead of lagging this out.

Lol your imagination is awesome, again, your changing your point to suit your argument, this thread isn’t about madara, he was only mentioned because he’s used rinnegan jutsus, as has sasuke, as has obito. You started out as how and why nagato is the sole user, which is not true, so we’re done lol

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Lmao i thought idiots could read the context but i was wrong, they are only good for drinking road water. I was obviously referring to SO6P aside, but foolish road water drinkers obviously find it hard to decipher. SO6P has a fcking third eye if you didnt know so stop comparing and shove ass logic right into ass.

Any others than SO6P? Lmao you take things out of context when it suits you the best. Clowns have thier cheap short dicks wrapped up and starts running when they hit the stone. Bahahaha.


Blatantly confirmed, Preta =/= rinnegan, so madara, sasuke, obito except SO6P cant use it. Rinnegan is merely a link to that dimension. Preta path is called gakidö for a reason. Dö = realm or world in japanese.

Nothings confirmed but your ignorance, Preta is a rinnegan jutsu regardless of what you say or believe, unless your suggesting nagato can do it without the rinnegan, which.... lol

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Nothings confirmed but your ignorance, Preta is a rinnegan jutsu regardless of what you say or believe, unless your suggesting nagato can do it without the rinnegan, which.... lol

Bahahahahaha ignorance at its finest. I even explained the jutsu word meaning lmao. Bahahahahaha rinnegan absorption =/= Preta path which is a world which gets linked by a rinnegan user, but only the user who has found out this realm like kabuto found out Ryuchido.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Bahahahahaha ignorance at its finest. I even explained the jutsu word meaning lmao. Bahahahahaha rinnegan absorption =/= Preta path which is a world which gets linked by a rinnegan user, but only the user who has found out this realm like kabuto found out Ryuchido.

Oh so now it’s rinnegan absorption isn’t Preta? You said Preta wasn’t a rinnegan tech, now you changed it? What a surprise lol oh wait i forgot, the rinnegan just has 2 different absorption jutsus that do the exact same thing right? your done dude time to lose in another thread

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

You do realize you're the only one that thinks he didn't use preta there? I get it that you're one of those guys who is trying to make their fav Nagato look better by telling everyone that some of the rinnegan's jutsu's are unique to him, but atleast you should know when to give up and leave thread because no one is buying this bullshit.

I like Tobi and Sasuke better and I even admit that nagato’s absorption is different than there’s. So you can quote the bullshit talk and stop the fanboy talk.

Flames are covering his body, but not his hand which he raised to create orb. Orb has clearly different shape than flames, unless you can't see the difference then we're done and susanoo cannot be formed in such shape.

There is no orb. What don’t you understand? And you can’t even confirm if he’s absorbing or not.
Gaikdo has no flames, period.

I've never said Madara "didn't want", but that he failed to react which is big difference. Lying about words I used will get you nowhere.

Failing to react to base Lee? Jesus Christ

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Oh so now it’s rinnegan absorption isn’t Preta? You said Preta wasn’t a rinnegan tech, now you changed it? What a surprise lol oh wait i forgot, the rinnegan just has 2 different absorption jutsus that do the exact same thing right? your done dude time to lose in another thread

Bahahaha, preta is a realm which can be connected with the user with rinnegan but rinnegan itself has a generic absorption which is limited. That was the whole point but you gotta give it up to mentally retarded idiot to come up with untrue BS. LMao. Did you even read what i said? Lmfaooooo. Keep twisting and losing like mentally trash retard.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Bahahaha, preta is a realm which can be connected with the user with rinnegan but rinnegan itself has a generic absorption which is limited. That was the whole point but you gotta give it up to mentally retarded idiot to come up with untrue BS. LMao. Did you even read what i said? Lmfaooooo. Keep twisting and losing like mentally trash retard.

Cool, keep believing the rinnegan grants 2 identical but somehow “different” absorption abilities. Keep thinking madara can’t do a jutsu from his own eyes, despite every single instance of dojutsu transplant showing different. Keep thinking madara saying too much energy means anything considering he still completely absorbed it. Keep thinking your right, cause your literally the only one

 

[SeveN797]

There is no orb. What don’t you understand? And you can’t even confirm if he’s absorbing or not.
Gaikdo has no flames, period.

Last time im saying this. It's clearly preta path orb as seen from the side. And yes the raiton laser is being absorbed. You would realize it if you paied attention.

Here I even painted it, to make it easier to understand :

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If it was the solid structure like susanoo formed ribcage, hand etc. the raiton jutsu would just stop on susanoo's surface without changing it's properties. But as you can see the raiton laser is melted to the sides as soon as it touches the orb because it's getting absorbed, that's how preta's orb works.

Failing to react to base Lee? Jesus Christ

Kyuubi enhanced Lee manages to speed blitz Madara. Madara wasn’t expecting it. Doesn't matter if you like it or not, it's a fact and your whining about this isn't going to change it.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Cool, keep believing the rinnegan grants 2 identical but somehow “different” absorption abilities

Preta isnt granted by the rinnegan. Generic absorption is. Rinnegan is a tool to link that dimension with the user, like madara links the limbo world with the naruto world using rinnegan. It is not a jutsu granted by the rinnegan. Preta is unlimited absorption, rinnegan's generic absorption is limited. Its limit is FRS. Proven by madara's words.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Preta isnt granted by the rinnegan. Generic absorption is. Rinnegan is a tool to link that dimension with the user, like madara links the limbo world with the naruto world using rinnegan. It is not a jutsu granted by the rinnegan. Preta is unlimited absorption, rinnegan's generic absorption is limited. Its limit is FRS. Proven by madara's words.

He completely absorbed it, Preta Path is granted by the rinnegan and can only be used with the rinnegan

 

[InfiniteMugen]

No it isnt. Preta is a jutsu from a different dimension like limbo. Rinnegan merely connects the said dimensions. Rinnegan has a common absorption which is limited as seen with absorbing FRS. Madara's words >> your words. DB >> your words. Dickriding Trash.

Limbo is also a rinnegan tech, madaras rinnegan tech, so you said nothing here. How was the frs too much if he absorbed it? Where did it go? Did kakashi kamui it? Did minato ftg it away? Did obito kamui it? Did Siegfried and Roy stop by and make it disappear? Houdini? No, he completely absorbed it. Then he completely absorbed jinton... that’s one hell of a limit I’d say. Especially considering madara told ohnoki he was senile for trying jinton, why? Cause they all knew about pains abilities by then, you know, the rinnegan abilities

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Limbo is also a rinnegan tech, madaras rinnegan tech, so you said nothing here. How was the frs too much if he absorbed it? Where did it go? Did kakashi kamui it? Did minato ftg it away? Did obito kamui it? Did Siegfried and Roy stop by and make it disappear? Houdini? No, he completely absorbed it. Then he completely absorbed jinton... that’s one hell of a limit I’d say. Especially considering madara told ohnoki he was senile for trying jinton, why? Cause they all knew about pains abilities by then, you know, the rinnegan abilities

Limbo is not a rinnegan technique or nagato wouldve used it. Sasuke wouldve used it. Its a technique which links the Limbo world using rinnegan with narutoverse. Madara literally said it in manga. FRS is his limit so he can absorb upto that. Jinton = FRS or Jinton < FRS. Give me proof Jinton > FRS like i said before or no argument.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Last time im saying this. It's clearly preta path orb as seen from the side. And yes the raiton laser is being absorbed. You would realize it if you paied attention.

Here I even painted it, to make it easier to understand :

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If it was the solid structure like susanoo formed ribcage, hand etc. the raiton jutsu would just stop on susanoo's surface without changing it's properties. But as you can see the raiton laser is melted to the sides as soon as it touches the orb because it's getting absorbed, that's how preta's orb works.

So are you really that dense or do you not know how a Susano'o flame works? Susano'o flames are not ribcage or hands of the susano'o, you can't compare the two when the chakra isn't even stabilizing yet. There is no melted or "melding" process done in contact with the susano'o, that's just the laser circuit going AROUND the flames. There's even a laser that passed over madara's head and that one wasn't absorbed.
Look at how susano'o flames changes is shape to a semi circle:

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The flame emits from the users body and forms a semi circle blockade.

Pain's gakido is a complete barrier which is completely different than Madara:

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No flames and full circle barrier.

Kyuubi enhanced Lee manages to speed blitz Madara. Madara wasn’t expecting it. Doesn't matter if you like it or not, it's a fact and your whining about this isn't going to change it.

Drop the dumb-talk shit for a second and explain what did Lee get enhanced? Bee's version 2 is more enhanced than Lee's and nagato still absorbed so what more excuses do you have this time?
I don't care about opinions, I look for the actual fact coming from the manga and databook. And considering that Madara's name is not in the Hunger realm user for Databook 4 means that madara did not use gakido at all. Since the 4th databook only list users that actually use the jutsu in the manga means that my point stands exactly. All he's under is Gedo mazou and chibaku tensei, that's all madara and Pain share for feats as of now.

 

[SeveN797]

So are you really that dense or do you not know how a Susano'o flame works? Susano'o flames are not ribcage or hands of the susano'o, you can't compare the two when the chakra isn't even stabilizing yet. There is no melted or "melding" process done in contact with the susano'o, that's just the laser circuit going AROUND the flames. There's even a laser that passed over madara's head and that one wasn't absorbed.
Look at how susano'o flames changes is shape to a semi circle:

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Pain's gakido is a complete barrier which is completely different than Madara:

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No flames and full circle barrier.

@bold you are half right, the laser was being melted and absorbed on the whole surface of the orb.

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Pay attention to the lines inside the orb and how they are drawn because they're indicating the jutsu is getting sucked in. If it was susanoo, the barrier would be drawn in 1 solid structure like in your scan.

Preta's orb isn't always seen in a full circle, it's a matter of perspective

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Drop the dumb-talk shit for a second and explain what did Lee get enhanced? Bee's version 2 is more enhanced than Lee's and nagato still absorbed so what more excuses do you have this time?
I don't care about opinions, I look for the actual fact coming from the manga and databook. And considering that Madara's name is not in the Hunger realm user for Databook 4 means that madara did not use gakido at all. Since the 4th databook only list users that actually use the jutsu in the manga means that my point stands exactly. All he's under is Gedo mazou and chibaku tensei, that's all madara and Pain share for feats as of now

Making useless comparisons and trying to change the subject again will get you nowhere...again. Im not going to explain again the differences between Bee's and Lee's attacks and their outcomes.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Limbo is not a rinnegan technique or nagato wouldve used it. Sasuke wouldve used it. Its a technique which links the Limbo world using rinnegan with narutoverse. Madara literally said it in manga. FRS is his limit so he can absorb upto that. Jinton = FRS or Jinton < FRS. Give me proof Jinton > FRS like i said before or no argument.

It’s madaras rinnegan tech, like ameno is sasukes, nagato doesn’t have a rinne exclusive tech because he didn’t awaken the rinnegan, it was transplanted. What happens when you transplant an eye? When has it been shown to gain new jutsus? When has it ever been shown? EVER, with ANY transplanted jutsu? . I don’t have to prove anything to you, as everything has already been shown to you, you just don’t wanna see it because your obsessed with thinking you classify as anything close to a debater. You want proof? Your literally clinging on to a solitary statement made by someone who actually did what your saying they can’t. This is my last response to you, as your literally a waste of time. If you wanna be one of the literally 3 people on this site that believe nagato is the sole user of the the rinnegans 6 paths, jutsu, so be it.