Part 2 base Kabuto VS Part 2 Base Tsunade

[Icelerate]

Restrictions: Katsuyu and Yin Seal: Release (can't use yin seal to buff her strength/stamina either)
Location:

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Starting Distance:

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Intel: Same as before the aforementioned scan

This is Kabuto before he absorbed part of Orochimaru.

 

[Warlocks]

Base Tsunade wins

 

[Booker]

Without her seal Tsunade gets trashed, just like in Part 1.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lmao she obviously loses if her seal is restricted altogether.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Kabuto really didn't progress during the timeskip power wise, just research-wise. Tsunade isn't surprised by his style this time and wrecks.

You've basically just repurposed the original part 1 fight except now Tsunade is no longer rusty, drunk and ruled by her phobias. Kabuto loses regardless.

 

[Silent Hero]

What? Kabuto clowns her.

Tsunade states here that

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. She basically discredits any arguments that claim she lost because she was rusty, and the homophobia hadn't come into play yet, so that also could not be to blame.

Kabuto is just better.

 

[Icelerate]

What? Kabuto clowns her.

Tsunade states here that

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. She basically discredits any arguments that claim she lost because she was rusty, and the homophobia hadn't come into play yet, so that also could not be to blame.

Kabuto is just better.

Here is the

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. Pretty sure that's referring to Kabuto's skill in chakra scalpel, not overall skill, because that's what he just used and because it fits with the statement that Kabuto's jutsu instinct and sharpness surpass Tsunade's prime. Sharpness is something chakra scalpels are and they are a jutsu as well. If you want to think the statement refers to Kabuto being generally superior to Tsunade, that would contradict Tsunade's Sannin hype and the fact Kabuto was portrayed to be elite jounin tier, not kage or Sannin tier.

Even though being rusty impacted Tsunade's performance (

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) as Kabuto himself mentioned, part 2 Kabuto is obviously superior to his part one self and I'm pretty sure he has more time to train than Tsunade considering how Naruto got rusty after becoming Hokage.

Anyhow, how do you think the fight will play out? In part one, first Kabuto wore her down and

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to wound Tsunade while he himself dodged her attacks.

Making Tsunade tired will be much harder now as her stamina is generally much higher than Kabuto's. Also Kabuto's chakra scalpel is

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than it was in

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so his hits will do more damage.

 

[Tazzilla88]

While Naruto became rusty while being Hokage, Tsunade's skills sharpened just comparing her performance against Madara to Part 1. In a large part perhaps due to the fact that she was training a successor as opposed to what Naruto was up to.

 

[Simbv]

Tf? Tsunade Wrecks.

 

[Unorthodox]

Fight already happened Tsu Tsu gets wrecked.

 

[Tazzilla88]

Fight already happened Tsu Tsu gets wrecked.

Because Base Kabuto can handle a kage who can fight 5 Susanoo clones at once

 

[KidGamer65]

Because Base Kabuto can handle a kage who can fight 5 Susanoo clones at once

Because Tsunade w/o her Yin Seal can fight 5 Susanoo clones at once.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

What? Kabuto clowns her.

Tsunade states here that

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. She basically discredits any arguments that claim she lost because she was rusty, and the homophobia hadn't come into play yet, so that also could not be to blame.

Kabuto is just better.

Lol, homophobia.

But that doesn't explain the actual battle, which she was majorly winning against my fav. Her saying something for hype reasons can't be taken too literally when a rusty Tsunade was at the very least, tied with Kabuto til the haemophobia.

 

[Tazzilla88]

Because Tsunade w/o her Yin Seal can fight 5 Susanoo clones at once.

Perhaps not but she still had the stamina, and taijutsu prowess to do so which is the obvious point. Byakugou didn't stop her from huffing and puffing as she did in the original fight against Kabuto. So again, Kabuto's going to keep up with that version of Tsunade? Jokes.

If we take Tsunade's healing feats from the first part of that Madz fight, it absolutely shits on part 1 Tsunade's stamina feats with the Yin seal. In part 1 Tsunade stated that mystical palm technique required too much chakra. In the war she healed Gaara and Oonoki and refilled their chakra in base. And healed Mei.

In combat she had the ability to push Madara who himself is incredibly proficient. An obvious step up from Part 1 and while that did happen with her seal active, the seal doesn't boost taijutsu.

 

[NarutoX28]

Kabuto required a Soldier Pill to fight a Rusty Tsunade who was exhausted.

This is a no-brainer in all honesty, Trunade who's back in-shape would demolish him.

 

[lelerskates]

Because Tsunade w/o her Yin Seal can fight 5 Susanoo clones at once.

But she's not fighting susanoo clones. She's fighting 1 kabuto. So she reks.

 

[KidGamer65]

Perhaps not but she still had the stamina, and taijutsu prowess to do so which is the obvious point. Byakugou didn't stop her from huffing and puffing as she did in the original fight against Kabuto. So again, Kabuto's going to keep up with that version of Tsunade? Jokes.

If we take Tsunade's healing feats from the first part of that Madz fight, it absolutely shits on part 1 Tsunade's stamina feats with the Yin seal. In part 1 Tsunade stated that mystical palm technique required too much chakra. In the war she healed Gaara and Oonoki and refilled their chakra in base. And healed Mei.

In combat she had the ability to push Madara who himself is incredibly proficient. An obvious step up from Part 1 and while that did happen with her seal active, the seal doesn't boost taijutsu.

That makes zero sense. Byakugo being active and simply having the seal in itself boosts her physical abilities and her chakra levels as seen by Sakura's chakra level and physical abilities increasing after forming the seal WITHOUT her actually releasing it. That is restricted here. So no, she doesn't have the stamina to fight 5 Susanoo clones without her Yin Seal. Only thing that doesn't change is her SKILL in Taijutsu, overall prowess is a combination of skill and physical ability and Tsunade w/ the seal>Tsunade w/o the seal in physical ability and it's not even close.

That's all Tsunade with her seal. So Part 2 Tsunade w/ Yin Seal>>>Part 1 Tsunade w/ Yin Seal in terms of stamina. Doesn't mean that Tsunade without the added benefits of said seal has far more stamina than her Part 1 self w/o the seal. And Tsunade only said that when she had to heal wounds inflicted by Kabuto's chakra scalpel. Only Onoki would have injuries as bad as that due to the meteor. The rest just used up their chakra. The more severe the injury, the more chakra needed to heal.

It boosts physical ability, so using that as a feat for Tsunade w/o the seal makes no sense. That's like me saying "KCM doesn't boost Taijutsu itself, so KCM Naruto and Base Naruto would perform the same or roughly the same in a Taijutsu fight" even though KCM boosts Naruto's speed and strength. Sharingan also doesn't boost Taijutsu by itself, but due to the fact that the opponent's moves can be read Sasuke w/o Sharingan would be stomped by Sasuke w/ it in Taijutsu and they would perform drastically different against the same opponents.

And no, she herself was never shown pushing Madara in close quarters. All you see is her punching Madara's clone.

 

[Icelerate]

@KG, can you post the promised explanation?

 

[KidGamer65]

Kabuto w/ the soldier pill (something in his arsenal, a tool so it goes here) was taking on Tsunade in Taijutsu when she had her seal and overwhelming her. Tsunade may not be as rusty as she was in Part 1, but you restricted the seal altogether and we saw how much stronger, faster and how much more chakra Sakura got just from forming said seal.

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but her powered up punch sent it

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and then she caught up to that and her strike is far stronger than it was as we all know.

That is from simply forming the seal. Taking that advantage away from Tsunade is most likely a far greater demerit than making her rusty. And she has no monster strength on her own btw, that's all CES as Databook 2 states. Only thing you can debate her being superior or equal to in is more stamina, and even that is probably wrong.

So with that being said, Kabuto does her like he did her back in Part 1. Only way he loses is if the gap between Tsunade's skills in Part 1 and Part 2 is so large that it circumvents the vast decrease in strength and speed. Which it doesn't imo. Just look at Sakura pre Seal and post Seal. All her good reaction feats come from moments after she awakened her seal. Before she was below average in that category.


And that's me not even taking into account the fact that Kabuto in Part 2 has a better chakra scalpel. That's not me taking into account that Kabuto's chakra scalpel can actually cut things like wood and flesh by the time Part 2 has rolled around.

Btw, are there any panels that actually say that Tsunade was rusty besides that Kabuto panel?

 

[Icelerate]

BTW I meant Tsuande still has the yin seal, but she can't use it to make her punches on the same level as what Sakura/Tsunade used in the WA. Nor can she restore her stamina or use any type of markings across her body. She's not going to be nerfed in comparison to what Tsunade was when she fought Kabuto.