Part 1 Kimimaro vs Part 1 Sasuke

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Scenario 1:
-Start distance: 10 meters
-Location: Forest of Death
-Intel: canon
-Sasuke does not have access to 3T sharingan


Scenario 2:
-Start distance: 10 meters
-Location: Forest of Death
-Intel: canon
-Sasuke has access to 3T sharingan


Other question:
Does changing the start distance and/or location change the outcome of the battle in your opinion?
 

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Kimmi only wins if you think he can heal his heart. especially if the start distance is 10M and he has 3t.
 

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CS2 Sasuke is stronger than him thus why Orochimaru replaced him with former. Starting distance should be some 20 above meters if Sasuke starts with CS2.
 

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CS2 Sasuke is stronger than him thus why Orochimaru replaced him with former. Starting distance should be some 20 above meters if Sasuke starts with CS2.

It takes a moment for Sasuke to be able to transform into curse mark lvl 2 from base, so I don't think Kimi could get blitzed. And like blackpantherisb said, Orochimaru wanted to replace Kimi because he was sick, but also because Orochimaru wanted Sasuke's eyes for himself. That doesn't necessarily mean that Sasuke > Kimi.
 

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Kimi isn't getting blitzed here, not a chance in hell. Once CS2 comes out it's game over for Sasuke. Without 3T he gets murked.
 

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I'll just post my thought for scene1 and deal w/rest later if anything but anyway , Kimi low diffs in scenario1.
-Physical abilities: (ROUND 1)

Kimimaro has the max score of 5 in the db , shared only by people like gai/hiashi , compared to sasuke's 3.5. Kimimaro effortlessly destroyed a whole army of Kyubified Naruto clones without getting overwhelmed from all sides or losing composure. Pretty sure kimi would've destroyed the original KN0 Naruto if he didn't split his chakra with clones unless someone thinks KN0 Naruto could've blitzed kimi like he did sasuke who is so much slower than Naruto he needs the 3T. It wouldn't matter as kimi was blatantly portrayed tiers above KN0 naruto in all stats.
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Same KN0 that was blitzing and destroying 2T sasuke armed with lee's speed without effort , was himself getting trashed by kimimaro w/o effort , while going all out which he wasn't against sasuke. Not a single clone was even quick enough to grab sasuke's coffin while kimi worked the rest.
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Hinting that 2T Sasuke can charge chidori and go on to hit kimimaro is like hinting that KN0 Naruto , who is tiers faster than him , could've likewise blitzed kimimaro with his faster speed had he not used the clone army , which we know wouldn't happen. Kimimaro can easily do something unpredictable after easily reading sasuke's movements like pushing blade bones out of both his knees simultaneously , while using double blade bones from his palms + chest for mulipltle unpredictable pathways of attacks.
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But sharingan? but chidori?> First , kimimaro is a counter-reaction fighter , meaning he mostly waits , reads and picks apart the enemy assualt rather than attacking and getting caught up in his own , which is shown when even against the slower and less skilled lee , he is shown reacting to his assualt rather than him bein the one to attack lee even tho both simultaneously rushed eachother.
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Chidori works with the user rushing full speed followed with the enemy counter attacking the obvious and linear beeline attack "before" the chidori user attacks. The sharnigan user circumvents this by reading the attack "after" the enemy attacks , then avoids in a way that leaves the enemy vulnerable , followed by striking the enemy. Because if they attack first , the attack becomes airborn and thus becomes easy to counter and/or avoid for those able.
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If Sasuke rushes in head first like that above scan then kimi is more than fast enough to read his speed and react to his beeline with bone bullet spam to mess up his linear full speed , or with unpredictable use of his kkg , after perciveing sasuke's movemnts , can use his superior combat speed , skill and the counter-reactive factor to wait till sasuke commits to his chidori thrust , then react to it and neg him by branching out multiple bones spikes while using superior speed. Sasuke isn't as fast as KN0 Naruto who himself wouldn't be able to tag base kimi with a full speed Rasengan blitz. 2T sasuke cant even get around base Naruto with his sharingan to avoid his Rasengan and land chidori much less him doing so to Kimi , why could he not do so to naruto? because no matter what sasuke did or how fast he ran naruto would meet his chidori with rasengan the moment sasuke attacks , instead of attacking before sasuke and letting himself get read by sharingan.
 
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If sasuke has his Curse mark And 3 tomoe sharingan available then he wins, otherwise he gets wrecked
 

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I'll just post my thought for scene1 and deal w/rest later if anything but anyway , Kimi low diffs in scenario1.
-Physical abilities: (ROUND 1)

Kimimaro has the max score of 5 in the db , shared only by people like gai/hiashi , compared to sasuke's 3.5. Kimimaro effortlessly destroyed a whole army of Kyubified Naruto clones without getting overwhelmed from all sides or losing composure. Pretty sure kimi would've destroyed the original KN0 Naruto if he didn't split his chakra with clones unless someone thinks KN0 Naruto could've blitzed kimi like he did sasuke who is so much slower than Naruto he needs the 3T. It wouldn't matter as kimi was blatantly portrayed tiers above KN0 naruto in all stats.
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Same KN0 that was blitzing and destroying 2T sasuke armed with lee's speed without effort , was himself getting trashed by kimimaro w/o effort , while going all out which he wasn't against sasuke. Not a single clone was even quick enough to grab sasuke's coffin while kimi worked the rest.
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Hinting that 2T Sasuke can charge chidori and go on to hit kimimaro is like hinting that KN0 Naruto , who is tiers faster than him , could've likewise blitzed kimimaro with his faster speed had he not used the clone army , which we know wouldn't happen. Kimimaro can easily do something unpredictable after easily reading sasuke's movements like pushing blade bones out of both his knees simultaneously , while using double blade bones from his palms + chest for mulipltle unpredictable pathways of attacks.
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But sharingan? but chidori?> First , kimimaro is a counter-reaction fighter , meaning he mostly waits , reads and picks apart the enemy assualt rather than attacking and getting caught up in his own , which is shown when even against the slower and less skilled lee , he is shown reacting to his assualt rather than him bein the one to attack lee even tho both simultaneously rushed eachother.
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Chidori works with the user rushing full speed followed with the enemy counter attacking the obvious and linear beeline attack "before" the chidori user attacks. The sharnigan user circumvents this by reading the attack "after" the enemy attacks , then avoids in a way that leaves the enemy vulnerable , followed by striking the enemy. Because if they attack first , the attack becomes airborn and thus becomes easy to counter and/or avoid for those able.
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If Sasuke rushes in head first like that above scan then kimi is more than fast enough to read his speed and react to his beeline with bone bullet spam to mess up his linear full speed , or with unpredictable use of his kkg , after perciveing sasuke's movemnts , can use his superior combat speed , skill and the counter-reactive factor to wait till sasuke commits to his chidori thrust , then react to it and neg him by branching out multiple bones spikes while using superior speed. Sasuke isn't as fast as KN0 Naruto who himself wouldn't be able to tag base kimi with a full speed Rasengan blitz. 2T sasuke cant even get around base Naruto with his sharingan to avoid his Rasengan and land chidori much less him doing so to Kimi , why could he not do so to naruto? because no matter what sasuke did or how fast he ran naruto would meet his chidori with rasengan the moment sasuke attacks , instead of attacking before sasuke and letting himself get read by sharingan.

Wow I never thought about how Naruto wasn’t holding back against Kimi yet was against Sasuke, truly highlighting how powerful he is.
 

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Kimimaro clearly is the winner.
 

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Kimimaro is overall a stronger ninja, however I think Sasuke wins. He was able to outspeed Gaara's sand, so with a short starting distance like that he might just blitz him.
 

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Sasuke loses. He still hadn't gotten used to his Curse Mark V2, so it would drain at him very quickly. He noted its effects immediately after activating it for the first time while Kimimaro, even sick, was able to keep it up for considerably longer.

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Kimimaro is much faster than Sasuke so saying that Sasuke would blitz him is absurd. And the 3T was shown to fail against unorthodox fighting styles so I can't see how Sasuke would be able to react to Kimi's Shikotsumyaku. Kimimaro clearly takes this.
 

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Kimimaro is overall a stronger ninja, however I think Sasuke wins. He was able to outspeed Gaara's sand, so with a short starting distance like that he might just blitz him.

Using this logic would u say KN0 Naruto would blitz Kimi from same distance? Since he's tiers faster than Sasuke?
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Factually Sasuke is slower than Kimimaro; Latter wins.
 

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I'll just post my thought for scene1 and deal w/rest later if anything but anyway , Kimi low diffs in scenario1.
-Physical abilities: (ROUND 1)

Kimimaro has the max score of 5 in the db , shared only by people like gai/hiashi , compared to sasuke's 3.5. Kimimaro effortlessly destroyed a whole army of Kyubified Naruto clones without getting overwhelmed from all sides or losing composure. Pretty sure kimi would've destroyed the original KN0 Naruto if he didn't split his chakra with clones unless someone thinks KN0 Naruto could've blitzed kimi like he did sasuke who is so much slower than Naruto he needs the 3T. It wouldn't matter as kimi was blatantly portrayed tiers above KN0 naruto in all stats.
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Same KN0 that was blitzing and destroying 2T sasuke armed with lee's speed without effort , was himself getting trashed by kimimaro w/o effort , while going all out which he wasn't against sasuke. Not a single clone was even quick enough to grab sasuke's coffin while kimi worked the rest.
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Hinting that 2T Sasuke can charge chidori and go on to hit kimimaro is like hinting that KN0 Naruto , who is tiers faster than him , could've likewise blitzed kimimaro with his faster speed had he not used the clone army , which we know wouldn't happen. Kimimaro can easily do something unpredictable after easily reading sasuke's movements like pushing blade bones out of both his knees simultaneously , while using double blade bones from his palms + chest for mulipltle unpredictable pathways of attacks.
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But sharingan? but chidori?> First , kimimaro is a counter-reaction fighter , meaning he mostly waits , reads and picks apart the enemy assualt rather than attacking and getting caught up in his own , which is shown when even against the slower and less skilled lee , he is shown reacting to his assualt rather than him bein the one to attack lee even tho both simultaneously rushed eachother.
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Chidori works with the user rushing full speed followed with the enemy counter attacking the obvious and linear beeline attack "before" the chidori user attacks. The sharnigan user circumvents this by reading the attack "after" the enemy attacks , then avoids in a way that leaves the enemy vulnerable , followed by striking the enemy. Because if they attack first , the attack becomes airborn and thus becomes easy to counter and/or avoid for those able.
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If Sasuke rushes in head first like that above scan then kimi is more than fast enough to read his speed and react to his beeline with bone bullet spam to mess up his linear full speed , or with unpredictable use of his kkg , after perciveing sasuke's movemnts , can use his superior combat speed , skill and the counter-reactive factor to wait till sasuke commits to his chidori thrust , then react to it and neg him by branching out multiple bones spikes while using superior speed. Sasuke isn't as fast as KN0 Naruto who himself wouldn't be able to tag base kimi with a full speed Rasengan blitz. 2T sasuke cant even get around base Naruto with his sharingan to avoid his Rasengan and land chidori much less him doing so to Kimi , why could he not do so to naruto? because no matter what sasuke did or how fast he ran naruto would meet his chidori with rasengan the moment sasuke attacks , instead of attacking before sasuke and letting himself get read by sharingan.

Had to stop reading @Bold since the Naruto that used Kurama's chakra vs Kimi was way less than the one he used vs Sasuke. And naw Naruto didn't hold back vs Sasuke.
 

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Had to stop reading @Bold since the Naruto that used Kurama's chakra vs Kimi was way less than the one he used vs Sasuke. And naw Naruto didn't hold back vs Sasuke.
Naruto severely held back against Sasuke. Specially with 9tails chakra. I do think that one tail Naruto is superior to any known genin at that point including the sound 5
 

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Had to stop reading @Bold since the Naruto that used Kurama's chakra vs Kimi was way less than the one he used vs Sasuke. And naw Naruto didn't hold back vs Sasuke.[/COLOR][/B]

Based on wat? Ntn.
-Naruto could've murdered Sasuke at the start by using a simple kunai or rasengan. Naruto could've continued to pummel Sasuke's face in instead of tryning to reason , if he wanted. Naruto clearly held back.
 
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