[VS] Part 1 Kakashi VS Dodai

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Yeah Temari managed to warm them before the pillar was destroyed so she pretty much reacted to the Raikages speed (despite the Raikage was standing close to the pillar in the first place).
Are you sure he used shunshin there? I think he just ran to the pillar.
 

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Are you sure he used shunshin there? I think he just ran to the pillar.
I said Temari reacted the same way as Dodai could. And Dodai never reacted to Raikage's shunshin :lol But outside of shunshin both of them reacted to the Raikages speed so its not something that should being glorified like the other guy doing.
 

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Dodai looks cool but has zero offensive feats. And as I remember, his Gomuheki was penetrated by Sandaime's nukite... a B-Rank Raiton technique, which means Kakashi's S-Rank Raikiri will cut it up just as well, if not much easier.
 

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And as I remember, his Gomuheki was penetrated by Sandaime's nukite... a B-Rank Raiton technique, which means Kakashi's S-Rank Raikiri will cut it up just as well, if not much easier.

Lmao because rank definitely refers to power despite the manga explicitly showing otherwise.
 

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Lmao because rank definitely refers to power despite the manga explicitly showing otherwise.

Did I say that? Nope. "As well, if not much easier" The fact that the DB and manga makes repeated comparisons between the two techniques is telling by itself."

Sometimes, you really come across as if you've got a chip on your shoulder.
 

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Did I say that? Nope. "As well, if not much easier" The fact that the DB and manga makes repeated comparisons between the two techniques is telling by itself."

Sometimes, you really come across as if you've got a chip on your shoulder.

That's you stating that Rakiri may be stronger based on rank, which is again wrong and based on literally nothing. You providing two possibilities doesn't mean that you didn't claim what is clearly shown there nor does it change how ridiculous your point is. What's worse is that the Manga has actually shown us that rank and power have literally nothing to do with each other unless they are the same exact jutsu which they clearly are not. Repeating comparisons? Irrelevant. Are they the same jutsu? No, they aren't.

If I used this ridiculous logic I'd be saying Raikiri should cut just as well if not much easier than One Fingered Nukite because of it's rank despite One Fingered Nukite piercing Ay III while Chidori, not much weaker than Raikiri if it all, only gave Ay IV a flesh wound.
 

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Dodai looks cool but has zero offensive feats. And as I remember, his Gomuheki was penetrated by Sandaime's nukite... a B-Rank Raiton technique, which means Kakashi's S-Rank Raikiri will cut it up just as well, if not much easier.

I guess Raikiri(S rank)>Rashōmon(A rank).
Yeah raikiri isn't more powerful than Hell stab imo.
 

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dodai hasn't performed a single attack in the manga IIRC. He's obviously one of the strongest in the cloud, but Dodoi seems to be a defensive specialist, not really someone who goes into fights 1 vs 1. Kakashi should take this.
 

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I guess Raikiri(S rank)>Rashōmon(A rank).
Yeah raikiri isn't more powerful than Hell stab imo.

No way in hell it is. It's inferior to 4 finger hell stab (the weakest form of hell stab).
 

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dodai hasn't performed a single attack in the manga IIRC. He's obviously one of the strongest in the cloud, but Dodoi seems to be a defensive specialist, not really someone who goes into fights 1 vs 1. Kakashi should take this.

No I do understand this, but at the same time- he has only used a handful of jutsu in his few pages at all. Minor character syndrome sadly when it doesn't take a lot of initiative or creative thinking to turn rubber style into an offensive attack. As mentioned already- suffocation would be all too easy and simple with a giant moving rubber wall.

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He is definitely a support nin predominantly but why would he be instructing the Cloud elite how to use offensive jutsu if he had no knowledge of how to use them?
 
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