Part 1 Edo Tobirama and Hashirama.

[Mattek2008]

While it is common knowledge that the First and Second were not at their full power when reincarnated in Pt1, something about this has been bothering me.

What exactly are their limitations? Is it the overall chakra they possess? The more chakra you put into a technique, the stronger it gets, right? maybe that is what made them weak. They also got robbed of their free will, having Orochimaru controlling their actions, maybe this also made them weaker?

Does anyone know the answer? if there even is one..

 

[Bimbonium]

I think it should be chakra limitations.

 

[Prime Rib]

While it is common knowledge that the First and Second were not at their full power when reincarnated in Pt1, something about this has been bothering me.

What exactly are their limitations? Is it the overall chakra they possess? The more chakra you put into a technique, the stronger it gets, right? maybe that is what made them weak. They also got robbed of their free will, having Orochimaru controlling their actions, maybe this also made them weaker?

Does anyone know the answer? if there even is one..

orochimaru did not have edo tensei mastered like kabuto did so when he brought them back they were brought back weaker. what makes them different now is that they have access to most of there techniques and chakra.

 

[HiddenSound]

Well, we know they were at least utter mindless puppets. And that Hashirama used a single Jutsu...

 

[Mattek2008]

orochimaru did not have edo tensei mastered like kabuto did so when he brought them back they were brought back weaker. what makes them different now is that they have access to most of there techniques and chakra.

I know, the question is HOW exactly are they weaker Merry Christmas to you bro

 

[Mattek2008]

Well, we know they were at least utter mindless puppets. And that Hashirama used a single Jutsu...

Looking back at the fight,i remeber that Orochimaru did nothing but stand there while Saru was fighting the past Hokage. Maybe he was the one controlling everything they did? just something random i thought about.

 

[HiddenSound]

Looking back at the fight,i remeber that Orochimaru did nothing but stand there while Saru was fighting the past Hokage. Maybe he was the one controlling everything they did? just something random i thought about.

Pretty much. They were waiting on Orochimaru's say-so to do stuff :/

 

[Prime Rib]

I know, the question is HOW exactly are they weaker Merry Christmas to you bro

how?

well
1. have most of there powerfull 24 hours non stop fighting chakra/stamina
2. have access to most of there techniques.
3. str,speed,reflexes

with orochimaru bringing them back made them weaker cause he had no mastery over it so there power scale of there techniques werent on the level as they would be if they were alive.

for example the techniques madara used with wood release were on a huge scale, but when hashirama used in part 1 they were like yamato lvl of it.

 

[Mattek2008]

See, that's the kind of answer i was looking for, thanks! have some rep

 

[Penguin]

They were probably at....around....10% chakra? Hashirama's mokuton was pathetic, as well as Tobirama's suiton. The speed at which they were moving was nerfed as well. They were mindless.....and couldn't use their signature jutsu.

 

[Mattek2008]

how?

well
1. have most of there powerfull 24 hours non stop fighting chakra/stamina
2. have access to most of there techniques.
3. str,speed,reflexes

with orochimaru bringing them back made them weaker cause he had no mastery over it so there power scale of there techniques werent on the level as they would be if they were alive.

for example the techniques madara used with wood release were on a huge scale, but when hashirama used in part 1 they were like yamato lvl of it.

See, that is the kind of answer i was looking for! Thanks, have some rep (handing these out like cookies today)

 

[Mattek2008]

They were probably at....around....10% chakra? Hashirama's mokuton was pathetic, as well as Tobirama's suiton. The speed at which they were moving was nerfed as well. They were mindless.....and couldn't use their signature jutsu.

Nicely done,

 

[startup97]

About 25% power since Orochimaru didn't perfect Edo Tensei by then. IMO it was Chakra limitations.

 

[Penguin]

About 25% power IMO.

Not even close.

 

[Mattek2008]

Not even close.

I respectfully Dissagree. They were still at High jonin/Low/Mid Kage level. So i support the 25% argument. You can have your own opinions ofcourse