Pain VS Sharingan Obito

[Skywardsword]

Rinnegan VS Sharingan

Location: Sannin VS Hanzo

Distance: 50 meters

Conditions and Restrictions: Manga intel for both, dont forget we are talking about

You must be registered for see links

Tobi

Who wins?

 

[Zexion~]

Pain loses, nagato wins

 

[KidGamer65]

Obito can take Nagato.

 

[Zexion~]

Obito can take Nagato.

MS Obito :|

 

[Guntah]

Obito wins...very high dif. He will probably lose one eye against Pain.

 

[KidGamer65]

MS Obito :|

Yup, MS Obito can take Nagato. Kamui+Izanagi bypasses Nagato's counter for Kamui by allowing Obito to warp Nagato during his 5 second limit w/o getting killed.

He can also take Pain, but warping every body will be a piece of cake besides Deva, who he will need Izanagi for.

 

[Zexion~]

Yup, MS Obito can take Nagato. Kamui+Izanagi bypasses Nagato's counter for Kamui by allowing Obito to warp Nagato during his 5 second limit w/o getting killed.

He can also take Pain, but warping every body will be a piece of cake besides Deva, who he will need Izanagi for.

Ok, never was fully aware of the parameters behind Obito's Izanagi,

If its not a killing blow would it even work? as its not like ST is killing anyone in one shot , and pretty sure Preta Path would suffice in getting rid of Kamui,

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Obito wins this.

 

[KidGamer65]

Ok, never was fully aware of the parameters behind Obito's Izanagi,

If its not a killing blow would it even work? as its not like ST is killing anyone in one shot , and pretty sure Preta Path would suffice in getting rid of Kamui,

Because Kamui is made of chakra amirite? :| That makes no sense at all. Don't even mention it again.

If you use a strong enough ST, it will slam the person into the ground hard enough to smash their body and kill them.

 

[Zexion~]

Because Kamui is made of chakra amirite? :| That makes no sense at all. Don't even mention it again.

If you use a strong enough ST, it will slam the person into the ground hard enough to smash their body and kill them.

Which has never been done before so why you think it will happen to Obtio is beyond me :| St would send him flying back and then Human could finish the job Izanagi may save him....once or twice depending on the MS obito, but Nagato's reactions could deal with Obito if he tried ti ambush him ...as he can't warp himself and Nagato at the same time


And whether he's intangible or not the chakra is still evident somewhat inside the user, and the field may be able to absorb the chakra :|

 

[KidGamer65]

Which has never been done before so why you think it will happen to Obtio is beyond me :| St would send him flying back and then Human could finish the job Izanagi may save him....once or twice depending on the MS obito, but Nagato's reactions could deal with Obito if he tried ti ambush him ...as he can't warp himself and Nagato at the same time

Has never been done before?

You must be registered for see links

All he has to do is use a Shinra Tensei like that but stronger. I hope that you know if he doesn't kill Obito with that strike, the latter simply sinks in the ground, reappears behind him and warps him away anyways/

Slap yourself if Human Path is going is going to work on Obito when he has Kamui. Slap yourself if Nagato is going to use Shinra Tensei, send Obito flying back, and then use Human Path to take his soul when that requires contact.

lol? Nagato's reactions aren't going to mean squat when he's getting warped away, he's not fast enough to outrun Obito, he has no technique that is fast enough to interrupt Kamui bar ST, which has a time limit.

How is he going to deal with Obito mid warp? It doesn't matter if he can't warp himself and Nagato at the same time, when Nagato can't do anything once Obito has touched him.

And whether he's intangible or not the chakra is still evident somewhat inside the user, and the field may be able to absorb the chakra :|

lol, this makes no sense at all. Kamui isn't like Rasengan, you aren't going to absorb a technique that isn't made out of chakra. Kamui's barrier isn't made out of chakra, chakra is spent to open up the barrier. Preta Path doesn't absorb charka from people unless you make contact so this renders your whole idea moot.

Saying he can absorb Kamui is like saying he can absorb Flying Thunder God. :| Makes no sense.

MS Obito takes Nagato mid diff.

 

[Zexion~]

Has never been done before?

You must be registered for see links

All he has to do is use a Shinra Tensei like that but stronger. I hope that you know if he doesn't kill Obito with that strike, the latter simply sinks in the ground, reappears behind him and warps him away anyways/

Slap yourself if Human Path is going is going to work on Obito when he has Kamui. Slap yourself if Nagato is going to use Shinra Tensei, send Obito flying back, and then use Human Path to take his soul when that requires contact.

lol? Nagato's reactions aren't going to mean squat when he's getting warped away, he's not fast enough to outrun Obito, he has no technique that is fast enough to interrupt Kamui bar ST, which has a time limit.

How is he going to deal with Obito mid warp? It doesn't matter if he can't warp himself and Nagato at the same time, when Nagato can't do anything once Obito has touched him.



lol, this makes no sense at all. Kamui isn't like Rasengan, you aren't going to absorb a technique that isn't made out of chakra. Kamui's barrier isn't made out of chakra, chakra is spent to open up the barrier. Preta Path doesn't absorb charka from people unless you make contact so this renders your whole idea moot.

Saying he can absorb Kamui is like saying he can absorb Flying Thunder God. :| Makes no sense.

MS Obito takes Nagato mid diff.

Levitation anyone? :| Flying Bird anyone?

And notice how Hinata was not dead from that, and pretty sure she took multiple ST's not just that one,

Obviously if Obito is down, Nagato then uses Asura path to propel with extreme speed and then take his soul U_U

and this may be enough to intercept Obito's view really

You must be registered for see links

as if i remember correctly his warping is slower than Kakashi's and this has been shown to summon at immense speed which then buy's enough time for ST's cooldown to be brought back, and then Obito gets thrown back again

 

[KidGamer65]

Levitation anyone? :| Flying Bird anyone?

He's going to summon that before he gets warped away? He's going to summon that MID WARP? Not to mention Obito can

You must be registered for see links

Not to mention Deva powers disappear for 5 seconds when one is used. Levitation= Deva Power so he isn't doing that during the cool down.

And notice how Hinata was not dead from that, and pretty sure she took multiple ST's not just that one,

All he has to do is use a Shinra Tensei like that but stronger

Obviously if Obito is down, Nagato then uses Asura path to propel with extreme speed and then take his soul U_U

Cause Nagato can touch a guy who can go intangible at will amirite? :|

and this may be enough to intercept Obito's view really

You must be registered for see links

as if i remember correctly his warping is slower than Kakashi's and this has been shown to summon at immense speed which then buy's enough time for ST's cooldown to be brought back, and then Obito gets thrown back again

You can't be serious, so Nagato is going to be able to summon when he is getting dragged into the Kamui dimension despite a faster person with better reflexes

You must be registered for see links

? Nagato is going to clap his hands while his body is in that distorted state getting warped away? :| If you mean that he is going to do this before Obito touches him, I hope you know that he can phase through it so again, there is no point. Nagato gets warped away.

 

[Zexion~]

He's going to summon that before he gets warped away? He's going to summon that MID WARP? Not to mention Obito can

You must be registered for see links

Not to mention Deva powers disappear for 5 seconds when one is used. Levitation= Deva Power so he isn't doing that during the cool down.






Cause Nagato can touch a guy who can go intangible at will amirite? :|



You can't be serious, so Nagato is going to be able to summon when he is getting dragged into the Kamui dimension despite a faster person with better reflexes

You must be registered for see links

? Nagato is going to clap his hands while his body is in that distorted state getting warped away? :| If you mean that he is going to do this before Obito touches him, I hope you know that he can phase through it so again, there is no point. Nagato gets warped away.

I'm pretty sure he can't halt mid warp so he wouldn't be able to stop before he warps the panda instead of Nagato ...

And so you were talking about Physical contact warping? lml knew that forgot he can't do it the other way

what stops human path from going into effect which would still be able to work while getting warped..

or Preta path absorbing the Kamui chakra he's feeding into his arm for the warp, which i'm pretty sure he does to warp someone lol..ya thats a pretty easy counter actually

Unless you think that the chakra still remains in the eyes ...despite him having to touch the person for the warp to o into effect

 

[KidGamer65]

I'm pretty sure he can't halt mid warp so he wouldn't be able to stop before he warps the panda instead of Nagato ...

Why would he even warp the Panda when Nagato is the one he touched, not the panda? Again, you aren't making sense here.

what stops human path from going into effect which would still be able to work while getting warped..

The fact that he isn't touching Obito when getting warped. Unless you think he has better reactions than Minato who was unable to escape or counter w/o FTG.

or Preta path absorbing the Kamui chakra he's feeding into his arm for the warp, which i'm pretty sure he does to warp someone lol..ya thats a pretty easy counter actually

Bold is nothing but a baseless assumption so no, none of this is working. Again, its not like he's touching Obito during the warp so get that ridiculous notion out of your head.

Unless you think that the chakra still remains in the eyes ...despite him having to touch the person for the warp to o into effect

He's using it with his eye so obviously the chakra is going to be released from the eye, any other conclusion makes no sense.

 

[Zexion~]

Why would he even warp the Panda when Nagato is the one he touched, not the panda? Again, you aren't making sense here.


The fact that he isn't touching Obito when getting warped. Unless you think he has better reactions than Minato who was unable to escape or counter w/o FTG.


Bold is nothing but a baseless assumption so no, none of this is working. Again, its not like he's touching Obito during the warp so get that ridiculous notion out of your head.



He's using it with his eye so obviously the chakra is going to be released from the eye, any other conclusion makes no sense.

What is this....you say in the first line that Nagato is going to be touched, and then you say he won't 0.o

Pretty sure Obito needs to touch the person in order for Kamui to go into effect... so your saying its his eye that is warping them, yet he needs physical contact 0.o what is this....

What changes the fact that he can't just simply warp people like Kakashi then, :|

 

[KidGamer65]

What is this....you say in the first line that Nagato is going to be touched, and then you say he won't 0.o

I'm pretty sure I said that Nagato is going to be touched by Obito and that Nagato will never touch Obito.

Nagato getting touched doesn't equal Nagato touching Obito.

Pretty sure Obito needs to touch the person in order for Kamui to go into effect... so your saying its his eye that is warping them, yet he needs physical contact 0.o what is this....

Touch only initiates it, the simple fact that the barrier originiates from his eye shows that the chakra comes from his eye. Its a Dojutsu, what did you expect?

What changes the fact that he can't just simply warp people like Kakashi then, :|

The fact that Kishi drew it that way that's how. His Kamui is activated by touch and they are dragged into the barrier that originates at his eye. That's a fact. How is the chakra coming from his arm when he using a Dojutsu, and eye technique? :|

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

If I'm not mistaken, didn't Tobi admit inferiority?

 

[Zexion~]

I'm pretty sure I said that Nagato is going to be touched by Obito and that Nagato will never touch Obito.

Nagato getting touched doesn't equal Nagato touching Obito.


Touch only initiates it, the simple fact that the barrier originiates from his eye shows that the chakra comes from his eye. Its a Dojutsu, what did you expect?



The fact that Kishi drew it that way that's how. His Kamui is activated by touch and they are dragged into the barrier that originates at his eye. That's a fact. How is the chakra coming from his arm when he using a Dojutsu, and eye technique? :|

:| 6 paths technique is a dojutsu and we all know where the chakra goes in that one as well...And doesn't matter who is touching who, Preta creates a field of absorption so the chakra caught in theat field would be absorbed regardless, and there's physical contact so it would absorb the chakra inside of Obito def.

 

[KidGamer65]

:| 6 paths technique is a dojutsu and we all know where the chakra goes in that one as well...And doesn't matter who is touching who, Preta creates a field of absorption so the chakra caught in theat field would be absorbed regardless, and there's physical contact so it would absorb the chakra inside of Obito def.

Rinnegan=/=Sharingan. It doens't change the fact that the Kamui barrier originates at Obito's eye so the chakra is coming from his eye. Period. Chakra is used to activate the barrier but the barrier itself is not made of chakra. Period. So Kamui isn't getting absorb. Period. Obito's Kamui being absorbed is probably one of the stupidest things I have ever heard on the base. It makes zero sense.

You are going need scans of the field of absorption absorbing chakra directly from the person, and you are going to need scans of Preta being able to absorb chakra from someone, without the user of the technique touching the target first. Obito touching Nagato doesn't equal Nagato touching Obito, get that thought out of your head cause it makes no sense.