Pain> tobirama and kisame

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Is pain really a better master and user than both of them in regarding to water nature?
 

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No. He is not. Kisame is the Sultan of Suiton.
 

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Pain has no feats. So this comparison is meaningless
 

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Only kisame and tobirama can make water out of nothing. Kisame can spit out water that is later used for attacks, but tobirama can skip a step and directly make water attacks (possibly a space/time jutsu?)

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By that logic obito is a better lightning user because he made a thunder storm after giving peon orders.
 

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Only kisame and tobirama can make water out of nothing.

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Itachi can do it too. Infact any high level ninja with water release can use it.
 

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Tobirama is the best. u_u
AA water fountain>Tobrama
How can you prove ?whereas manga says nagato has complete mastery over five natures
Yes, he has control over them.. Does that mean he can use as impressive of suiton as Kisame? Such as a mountain sized water bubble?

The SoS of our world, huh?

I agree U_U... eh.
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-Pein
  • Feats: The Ukojizai no Jutsu
  • Hype: Was said to have mastered it at ten.

-Tobirama
  • Feats: Flooding the battlefield against Hiruzen
  • Hype: Said to be the strongest Suiton user.

-Kisame
  • Feats: Far too many to count.
  • Hype: Nothing much.

No matter how you look at it, both are far above Pein both feat- and hype-wise. So no, he's not superior in that area.
 

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It came from his body :|

Tobirama solos
........ Tobirama has only shown two suiton jutsu... One that he spits water out, and the other where he makes use of the water he just summoned from his mouth....
 

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Kisamei and Mei(stoped Madara's fire ) are the best by feats and Tobirama is the best by hype........
 
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