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[arielpk]

Are you brain dead? Wood style Justus use chakra as a LIFE FORCE it doesn't make chakra trees READ DAMN IT

Are you blind? Wood Ninjutsu, which is created by using Chakra. Any Ninjutsu can be absorbed by Pein/Nagato: Suiton, Fuuton, Katon, and even Mokuton. See even how Madara fought the five Kages.

 

[arielpk]

I take it you're going to say preta path can also absorb Shikamaru's shadows and RDS since they're nin jutsu right?

Actually, if it is a ninjutsu then it can be absorbed. The only question is whether it is a ninjutsu or not. (not too much into Nara Clan)

 

[KidGamer65]

And that's called Ninjutsu, like the one Jiraiya used. I can't understand what you want? You're actually saying the same as I did.


No. Re-watch the anime. Re-read the manga. But it doesn't really matter whether he absorbs Ninjutsu or Chakra, because Ninjutsu are based on Chakra, or don't you know even that?


At least I'm not the one who's calling himself "Kid" Zzz
Anyway, Mokuton is Ninjutsu. Whether it is a live one or not, is another point. But it is a ninjutsu, which is why it was made of chakra, which is why Nagato absorbs it.

You said Ninja spit real oil, I said they don't, can't you read? Oh wait, you can't...

Yeah, no use talking to brain dead idiot.

DB disagrees. Mokuton=Real Trees. Doesn't matter if its Ninjutsu cause there is no chakra in it for Preta to absorb. Get that through your thick skull.

Are you stupid? Not all ninjutsu are made out of chakra. All Ninjutsu use chakra. Mokuton is created by taking chakra and turning it into life force, then that life force causes trees to grow.

Yang chakra has life giving properties. Yang chakra's properties causes Mokuton to accelerate in growth. That is proof that ARE REAL TREES.

Why the hell are you telling me to re-read the manga when I have a DB entry. DB was written by Kishi. Kishi's facts>Some dumb fans opinion.

 

[arielpk]

You said Ninja spit real oil, I said they don't, can't you read? Oh wait, you can't...

Trolling again? I said the Jutsu Jiraiya did creates real oil, same as with hashi's mokuton. What's your problem?

Yeah, no use talking to brain dead idiot.

I know, but I am trying to see how ridiculous you can get.

DB disagrees. Mokuton=Real Trees. Doesn't matter if its Ninjutsu cause there is no chakra in it for Preta to absorb. Get that through your thick skull.

DB agrees. Mokuton = Real Trees, true. Jiraiya's oil jutsu = real Oil, true. Both can be absorbed, because are created with Ninjutsu. They are not a manipulation of an existing thing (i.e. Gaara'a sand).

Are you stupid? Not all ninjutsu are made out of chakra. All Ninjutsu use chakra. Mokuton is created by taking chakra and turning it into life force, then that life force causes trees to grow.

Are you retard? All Ninjutsu are made using chakra, wtf is wrong with you. You even stated it in here:"Mokuton is created by taking chakra and...". You do realize you are contradicting yourself, do you?

Yang chakra has life giving properties. Yang chakra's properties causes Mokuton to accelerate in growth. That is proof that ARE REAL TREES.

And I said they aren't? Please read. read.

Why the hell are you telling me to re-read the manga when I have a DB entry. DB was written by Kishi. Kishi's facts>Some dumb fans opinion.

Because Nagato can absorb any Ninjutsu, same with Madara. Manga was written by Kishi. Manga facts > KidGamer65's fan ideas

 

[soloGodtachi]

Mokuton are real trees so there is no chakra to absorb

then how can 1k Buddha move?

 

[KidGamer65]

Trolling again? I said the Jutsu Jiraiya did creates real oil, same as with hashi's mokuton. What's your problem?

Chakra based oil made from Ninjutsu is NOT the same as real oil.

DB agrees. Mokuton = Real Trees, true. Jiraiya's oil jutsu = real Oil, true. Both can be absorbed, because are created with Ninjutsu. They are not a manipulation of an existing thing (i.e. Gaara'a sand)

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What the hell? Jiraiya doesn't create real oil. Real, Natural Oil IS NOT THE SAME AS CHAKRA BASED OIL.

Are you retard? All Ninjutsu are made using chakra, wtf is wrong with you. You even stated it in here:"Mokuton is created by taking chakra and...". You do realize you are contradicting yourself, do you?

Slap yourself. Mokuton is created by taking chakra AND CONVERTING IT INTO LIFE FORCE. Do you know what the work convert means? If you don't google it.

After its been converted. THERE IS NO MORE CHAKRA. IT CAUSES REAL TREES TO GROW.

And I said they aren't? Please read. read.


Because Nagato can absorb any Ninjutsu, same with Madara. Manga was written by Kishi. Manga facts > KidGamer65's fan ideas

Just gonna ignore this because its you contradicting what's been written already.

then how can 1k Buddha move?

Ask Kishimoto not me, he clearly says in the Databook that Mokuton are made from real trees.

 

[arielpk]

then how can 1k Buddha move?

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Troll was caught off guard, huh?

 

[arielpk]

Chakra based oil made from Ninjutsu is NOT the same as real oil.

Really? says who?
It is real oil, just with chakra leftovers inside or anything like that, and it is the same with trees. This is the meaning of Ninjutsu, converting chakra into real things.

What the hell? Jiraiya doesn't create real oil. Real, Natural Oil IS NOT THE SAME AS CHAKRA BASED OIL.

Re-watch Jiraiya vs Pein. Zzz Oh, and read what I said above.

Slap yourself. Mokuton is created by taking chakra AND CONVERTING IT INTO LIFE FORCE. Do you know what the work convert means? If you don't google it.

I'll slap your mom. Do you what the words Chakra and Ninjutsu mean? Google them.

After its been converted. THERE IS NO MORE CHAKRA. IT CAUSES REAL TREES TO GROW.

There is. read my first comment. Otherwise, how can one re-aim the jutsu? Or move it?

Just gonna ignore this because its you contradicting what's been written already.

Ignore what you can't debate. Seems legit.

Ask Kishimoto not me, he clearly says in the Databook that Mokuton are made from real trees.

Ask kishimoto? Why? You're the one debating here with me, yet unable to answer my arguments, and still claiming I'm wrong.

 

[soloGodtachi]

Chakra based oil made from Ninjutsu is NOT the same as real oil.


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What the hell? Jiraiya doesn't create real oil. Real, Natural Oil IS NOT THE SAME AS CHAKRA BASED OIL.



Slap yourself. Mokuton is created by taking chakra AND CONVERTING IT INTO LIFE FORCE. Do you know what the work convert means? If you don't google it.

After its been converted. THERE IS NO MORE CHAKRA. IT CAUSES REAL TREES TO GROW.



Just gonna ignore this because its you contradicting what's been written already.



Ask Kishimoto not me, he clearly says in the Databook that Mokuton are made from real trees.

databook also says Yata blocks everything so Edo Itachi >> everyone since he can keep it up forever and noone can break it
databook also says Hiruzen was the strongest kage of his era so he can definitely beat A and Onoki
btw "made of life firce" / "being real" doesn't mean it's not controlled with chakra
gaara's sand is normal sand still filled with chakra

 

[KidGamer65]

databook also says Yata blocks everything so Edo Itachi >> everyone since he can keep it up forever and noone can break it
databook also says Hiruzen was the strongest kage of his era so he can definitely beat A and Onoki
btw "made of life firce" / "being real" doesn't mean it's not controlled with chakra
gaara's sand is normal sand still filled with chakra

It wasn't stated that Gaara's sand is created by converting his chakra into life force to make the trees grow now was it?

Not gonna waste my time with the rest of your post. Mokuton are real trees so Preta can't absorb it. Its as simple as that.

 

[KidGamer65]

Really? says who?
It is real oil, just with chakra leftovers inside or anything like that, and it is the same with trees. This is the meaning of Ninjutsu, converting chakra into real things.


Re-watch Jiraiya vs Pein. Zzz Oh, and read what I said above.



I'll slap your mom. Do you what the words Chakra and Ninjutsu mean? Google them.


There is. read my first comment. Otherwise, how can one re-aim the jutsu? Or move it?



Ignore what you can't debate. Seems legit.



Ask kishimoto? Why? You're the one debating here with me, yet unable to answer my arguments, and still claiming I'm wrong.

I'm done debating with a brain dead retard such as yourself.

 

[arielpk]

It wasn't stated that Gaara's sand is created by converting his chakra into life force to make the trees grow now was it?

Who said it is?

Not gonna waste my time with the rest of your post. Mokuton are real trees so Preta can't absorb it. Its as simple as that.

Because you can't reply with anything that is not some random arguments thrown to the air.

 

[arielpk]

I'm done debating with a brain dead retard such as yourself.

Finally! Now everyone are free of your trolling and / or stupidity !

 

[soloGodtachi]

It wasn't stated that Gaara's sand is created by converting his chakra into life force to make the trees grow now was it?

Not gonna waste my time with the rest of your post. Mokuton are real trees so Preta can't absorb it. Its as simple as that.

it doesn't really matter what it was created from
real trees
real sand
as simple as that

if Hashirama isn't using chakra to control 1k buddha then please tell me he controls it
I'm curious

 

[KidGamer65]

it doesn't really matter what it was created from
real trees
real sand
as simple as that

if Hashirama isn't using chakra to control 1k buddha then please tell me he controls it
I'm curious

I don't know how nor do I care how. Mokuton can't be absorbed via Preta. Not getting into a debate about something that has nothing to do with my original point.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Not bad but BT's range wont reach Hashi on the .. giant buddha

Deva Path can fly.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Forget what i said about not starting Mokuton Vs Preta Path, it's started allready.

Mokuton is ninjutsu.
Hashirama turns Chakra into trees
Preta Path absorbs Chakra IN ANY FORM, he absorbed Jiraiya's oil.

 

[Strict]

Gakido absorbs Chakra, the Mokuton isn't. The Mokuton isn't Chakra that took the form of trees, Hashirama sends his Chakra into the ground to convert them into a source of life from which real trees are created and controlled. The Mokuton Bunshin no Jutsu for example isn't the simple split of your Chakra, its the reproduction of the users own cells, making the clone more durable. Technically speaking, the whole Mokuton is based on Hashirama's DNA; so certain Mokuton techniques are working through accelerating the growth of his own cells. Thinking logical and considering databook statements, one wouldn't think the Mokuton can be absorbed.

As for the topic, Hashirama would destroy Pain even without the use of Sage Mode. He is the most versatile Ninja after Edo Madara, who got all powers from Uchiha and Senju and that on a very massive scale.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Yeah no.

Hashi stomps.

Uhm no.

Hashirama stomps.

Nagato has nothing on the scale of Flower Tree world or Shinsusenju.

Actually, if you compare the sises, Chibaku tensei is bigger than shinsuusenju

 

[TrollingSage]

Actually, if it is a ninjutsu then it can be absorbed. The only question is whether it is a ninjutsu or not. (not too much into Nara Clan)

It is a ninjutsu!!! About hashirama, we all know he has sage mode. The last sage chakra petra absorbed well..

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What happened when danzu who was compatible with hashi cell(non sage) lost control?

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