Orochumaru was one of the best

[Hexen]

BM Minato!? You do know Edo Minato has kyuubi chakra.

Well it's edo tensei he can't kill Minato.But I was talking about Minato before death

 

[blazekev90]

Well it's edo tensei he can't kill Minato.But I was talking about Minato before death

I think you're confused. This is regarding Current Orochimaru vs the version of Obito that was being discussed.

 

[OrochimarusTounge]

Only a fool will deny how powerful King Orochimaru is, he's the best shinobi in the entire universe of ninja, truly a master of all

 

[AGoodBoy]

I said knew about him,not his full abilities.But he knew according to Jirayia he was a strange powerful child.

That doesn't help him at all -_-.... Knowing he's some strange powerful skill is going to help how? Jiraiya tutored nagato and still didn't understand what was happening. Ma and pa had to come along to figure it out.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Sad, you can't decipher what occurred in the anime and what actually happened in the manga. Scan on that happening, because what Kish displayed were two men standing there face-to-face. Orochimaru DID NOT APPROACH him from behind. Try again.

Orochimaru can't do a thing!? He was able to move in BINDING genjutsu lol! Not only that, he made an attempt to break the cast, forcing Itachi to RUSH over and cut his hand. Re-Read manga, I expected more from you.

Both were is horrible conditions, point taken. Orochimaru didn't attempt to avoid a sword that was unknown to him. Itachi had full intel, stating what it was before it even appeared.

*If you don't feel like reading everything below*
tl;dr; Itachi Totsuka blitzed Orochimaru. Itachi GG'd Orochimaru with Genjutsu.



Why are you fighting this? Itachi won from

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. Who even cares how they reached there? You think Orochimaru walked up those stairs going "Hey, Itachi, I'm totally envious of your eyes, please cast a genjutsu on me and cut off my hand for no apparent reason", while itachi just stood there watching him come up?
Seriously, stop. Orochimaru lost very badly. He was clearly approaching Itachi; Itachi knew he was hostile; Itachi placed him under a genjutsu then just stood there. "oh, He couldn't do anything? He was trying to move break the genjutsu!". The guy was

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, something even SASUKE could do. Wow, Amazing, Oro is so strong, he was slowly breaking fodder sharingan genjutsu, derp. You then claim that itachi rushed over? Really now?

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. Itachi even had the mercy to spare his life by just cutting off his arm. The fight was so effortless that

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! Does anything there suggest Itachi "Rushed" to do anything or that Orochimaru ever stood a shot? Itachi could have easily sliced his neck off while he couldn't do a damn thing except attempt to break his restraints.

Orochimaru didn't attempt?? Where did you get that? Orochimaru couldn't avoid it. The strike was so fast that

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. Do you know the last person who couldn't finish a sentence? I'll give you a

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. Now the common respond will either be "Oh, you're saying itachi's as fast as blah blah??", "Well, Orochimaru knew he couldn't die so he didn't care".

- First of all, Itachi has so Many speed feats that listing them all right here will be a waste of the next 4 hours of my life. Second of all, Itachi and Guy (yes, the person who can open all 8 gates) are the only 2 people in the DB who have a 5 in speed. Not even kakashi or sasuke with all their glory and hype could muster a 5.
- Secondly, Stating orochimaru didn't avoid because he didn't care is wrong to the point of being ridiculous. Never has orochimaru intentionally taken a hit he could avoid because it still soaks chakra for him to recover. Ontop of that, Orochimaru was easily capable of reacting to and attempting to block sasuke's assassination attempt yet he wouldn't even attempt to block itachi giant ass sword? Itachi sword is the size of his entire Torso and sasuke's is the size of his eyeball, yet people want to claim that orochimaru cared about sasuke's minute nonsense but not itachi giant glowing dildo? Bare in mind, Sasuke launched his sneak attack from

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, while orochimaru was

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in a bed,

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with no idea someone was there to the point

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; Whereas Itachi lunged a massive glowing sword(you can't even say you can't see his sword)

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.

 

[AnimusOra]

"One" of the best? They guy is still alive and has done it all through his own research. He is still up there when it comes to top tier.

 

[WalksInShadows]

why did he ever feel the need to get into body snatching to take ppl's potential/abilities for his own if he was truly that strong?

 

[Vatsa]

Agreed. Not to mention that he is literally better than death itself.

By far the most underrated, unjustly hated character in the NV, imo.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Orochimaru was handled poorly by kishimoto

 

[FlyingRaijinLVL2]

The other two sannin were handicapped in the fight too, but nonetheless good thread.

 

[blazekev90]

Goodboy, the essay wasn't necessary. Your post was inaccurate and now you're trying to state the obvious, which is Orochimaru was caught in genjutsu and sealed. That wasn't issue, it was the manner in which you went about explaining this, which was completely incorrect.

Your assumption of what occurred prior to what was illustrated is irrelevant, as I said read the manga and stop attaching fillers to everything

You exaggerating simple scenarios to try benefit your argument. "It was so fast it caught him mid sentence" lol please he thought of the blade and had no intentions of dodging. There was speed blitz and you have nothing to backup your claim.

The rest is pointless to address, you're babbling