Orochumaru was one of the best

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You ALWAYS make excuses. Tsunade was in the best condition, Jiraiya was in the second best, Orochimaru just had a part of his soul ripped out, was literally dying, his arms hurt to even move, yet he stilled fodderized Jiraiya, and stalemated with Tsunade. Her being rusty was an advantage, during that period she created the ultimate healing technique, yet after Orochimaru left, she got old and brittle,

I beg to disagree.. Tsunade hasn't fought in 20+ years and exhausted her chakra to bring herself back from a human ripped into shreds back to battle capable and Jiraiya experienced the drug more an overwhelming part of the battle.. Orochimaru was not in his best, but i can say the same with the other 2..
 

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If we think about Oro's shitty version of edo tensei(part 1),Obito destroys every edo tensei oh his

I meant and the one i replied to meant Current Orochimaru Summons.
Even tough he needed zetsu for that and i doubt that he can summon the kages another time.

Part 1 Edo Tensei are easily overpowered, Even by current Sakura.
 

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If you follow that logic then Prime Hiruzen is a real thing :|



For these sort of moments, Obito has Izanagi

Eyes are not a problem to replace.
 

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I Doubt that.
Hashirama can break trough edo tensei, And Do the same with the other 3 Kages.
Ending up in a 3 way battle
Obito Vs Orochimaru Vs The 4 kages.
4 kages would win.

Minato would be enough.
 

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I meant and the one i replied to meant Current Orochimaru Summons.
Even tough he needed zetsu for that and i doubt that he can summon the kages another time.

Part 1 Edo Tensei are easily overpowered, Even by current Sakura.

Can you tell me a way for Hashirama to free the other 3 kages?:)
 

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You spent time reading replies, but clearly didn't read the OP. Take this L, as didn't think your statement through.

Btw, the first "altercation" is nonexistent, as we simple see the standing face-to-face and Orochimaru being put in genjutsu w/ no attempt to avoid it. Tell me how could have survived that situation?

The second "altercation" involved an immobile chakra Orochimaru being attack in mid dialogue.

Those are such amazing feats! -_-
Cool, disregard manga feats because they don't go how you want them to.

The first Altercation - Orochimaru came in from behind to attack. Orochimaru got trapped; That's why they were standing around because Orochimaru couldn't do a thing to save or protect himself. Itachi casually walked up and cut his hand off instead of ending his life.

The second altercation - Itachi was blind, coughing blood, out of chakra. Orochimaru came in with his most powerful form. Orochimaru got blitzed by a sword while looking directly at itachi.

Result? Orochimaru lost. Badly. Twice.




As to the other people, I'll admit, I skimmed the OP and skipped the first line.
Regardless, Nagato isn't even debatable it's laughable to even think he is. The only way orochimaru even stands a chance is with max intel; which he doesn't have.
 

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Cool, disregard manga feats because they don't go how you want them to.

The first Altercation - Orochimaru came in from behind to attack. Orochimaru got trapped; That's why they were standing around because Orochimaru couldn't do a thing to save or protect himself. Itachi casually walked up and cut his hand off instead of ending his life.

The second altercation - Itachi was blind, coughing blood, out of chakra. Orochimaru came in with his most powerful form. Orochimaru got blitzed by a sword while looking directly at itachi.

Result? Orochimaru lost. Badly. Twice.




As to the other people, I'll admit, I skimmed the OP and skipped the first line.
Regardless, Nagato isn't even debatable it's laughable to even think he is. The only way orochimaru even stands a chance is with max intel; which he doesn't have.

Sick Nagato is debatable,and Oro knew about him
 

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Yeah possibly., But The other 3 kages can help for the sake of 10 Sec Killing them.

I doubt Oro will stay to fight the 4 hokages and let them rape him
 

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Sick Nagato is debatable,and Oro knew about him

Knew what about nagato? He has to know all the bodies are dead, has to know the full abilities of each, and know how to find the real nagato. Does he know all of that? No. The only persons who have max intel on nagato are konan and obito.

And, who the hell is sick nagato btw? There's no sick nagato.
 

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Deva Path Pain defeats Orochimaru Med Diff.(Proof?Wait until the Naruto Revolution game. They leaked a Cutscene showing Deva path Soloíng orochimaru already)
 

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Knew what about nagato? He has to know all the bodies are dead, has to know the full abilities of each, and know how to find the real nagato. Does he know all of that? No. The only persons who have max intel on nagato are konan and obito.

And, who the hell is sick nagato btw? There's no sick nagato.

I said knew about him,not his full abilities.But he knew according to Jirayia he was a strange powerful child.
 

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Deva Path Pain defeats Orochimaru Med Diff.(Proof?Wait until the Naruto Revolution game. They leaked a Cutscene showing Deva path Soloíng orochimaru already)

I said it is debatable only with sick Nagato.Doesn't already mean Oro>Nagato.It can go both directions but harder for Oro to win and as you say easier for Nagato
 

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Cool, disregard manga feats because they don't go how you want them to.

The first Altercation - Orochimaru came in from behind to attack. Orochimaru got trapped; That's why they were standing around because Orochimaru couldn't do a thing to save or protect himself. Itachi casually walked up and cut his hand off instead of ending his life.

The second altercation - Itachi was blind, coughing blood, out of chakra. Orochimaru came in with his most powerful form. Orochimaru got blitzed by a sword while looking directly at itachi.

Result? Orochimaru lost. Badly. Twice.




As to the other people, I'll admit, I skimmed the OP and skipped the first line.
Regardless, Nagato isn't even debatable it's laughable to even think he is. The only way orochimaru even stands a chance is with max intel; which he doesn't have.

Sad, you can't decipher what occurred in the anime and what actually happened in the manga. Scan on that happening, because what Kish displayed were two men standing there face-to-face. Orochimaru DID NOT APPROACH him from behind. Try again.

Orochimaru can't do a thing!? He was able to move in BINDING genjutsu lol! Not only that, he made an attempt to break the cast, forcing Itachi to RUSH over and cut his hand. Re-Read manga, I expected more from you.

Both were is horrible conditions, point taken. Orochimaru didn't attempt to avoid a sword that was unknown to him. Itachi had full intel, stating what it was before it even appeared.
 

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Yeah possibly., But The other 3 kages can help for the sake of 10 Sec Killing them.

He summons who he wants. He wouldn't need to summon all four hokage, which is why I stated Minato would be enough. Minato seeing Obito he'll see the Mask Man who attack the village, causing the his death.
 
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Sad, you can't decipher what occurred in the anime and what actually happened in the manga. Scan on that happening, because what Kish displayed were two men standing there face-to-face. Orochimaru DID NOT APPROACH him from behind. Try again.

Orochimaru can't do a thing!? He was able to move in BINDING genjutsu lol! Not only that, he made an attempt to break the cast, forcing Itachi to RUSH over and cut his hand. Re-Read manga, I expected more from you.

Both were is horrible conditions, point taken. Orochimaru didn't attempt to avoid a sword that was unknown to him. Itachi had full intel, stating what it was before it even appeared.

It is unknown if Itachi let him to move or Oro did it by himself.
 

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He summons who he wants. He wouldn't need to summon all four hokage, which is why I stated Minato would be enough. Minato seeing Obito he'll the Mask Man who attack the village, causing the his death.

Minato's speed makes the whole fight in his favour,but his attacks lack a final blow
 
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