[Theory] Orochimaru's past, current and future state within the story of Naruto

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Hey guys,

I've been thinking about Orochimaru as a character and what he will continue to do if the war ends in the favor of Naruto and Sasuke. Orochimaru has always had the dream of being able to obtain and harness every-single jutsu within the Naruto verse, but had come to the conclusion that he would never be able to do this due to the life span limitations of a human being. This was one of the reason why he started doing research into a forbidden jutsu that would allow him to essentially become immortal and never have to worry about time. He was able to achieve this through his technique known as the living corpse reincarnation which allows him to transfer his soul into someone else's body.

Ok, so now that time isn't an issue, what is stopping him from achieving his goal? Obviously, there are limitations to the ordinary shinobi. Although Orochimaru is freakin amazing, there are limitations to his abilities which he could not even achieve with his original body, i.e the one he fought Sarutobi with. Judging from his research, I would say the highest peak he could have reached with his original body would have been Sage Mode. Because he didn't have a strong enough body once he discovered the ryuchi cave, all he could do was create the curse seals with his sage chakra, but was unable to harness its power to enhance is actual fighting ability, i.e ninjutsu, taijutsi and genjutsu. He would have had powers similar to that of Kabuto if not on a far greater scale then him. Pretty amazing right?

But he probably came to the realization that he would never be able to harness every single elemental nature or other powers a certain lineage were able to attain. That's right, i'm referring to the Rinnegan. If someone is able to awaken the Rinnegan, they immediately gain access of all 5 basic nature elements, as well as the standard Rinnegan powers. I would say there are possibly more powers the Rinnegan has which were not shown by Kishimoto, otherwise there would be way too many abilities adding confusion. Although Orochimaru and Kabuto could not read the stone tablet, they were smart enough to formulate a hypothesis which involved Senju + Uchiha DNA = Rinnegan. Although this is not fully correct, even Madara who was able to awaken the Rinnegan did not know that it was Indra's and Ashura's chakra + EMS presumably = Rinnegan.

So it can be concluded that only transimigrants are capable of awakening the dojutsu, hence why Black-Zetsu spent a very very long time trying to get Indra's reincarnations to basically do what Madara finally did. I don't know whether it was just Orochimaru's defeat via Itachi's hands that forced him to go after Sasuke, but he was able to see something within Sasuke that no one else could see. He even stated that Sasuke has the potential to surpass Madara who at the time demonstrated god like powers. Pretty bold statement right? But if you think about it, only Sasuke and Madara are the ones that have been proven from the previous and current generations to unlock the EMS, where as it had been stated that other Uchiha had tried to do the same-thing in order to gain eternal sight, but ended up failing.

So through sheer observation, he could have come to the conclusion that Sasuke is on a league of his own in comparison to the other Uchiha. This is another reason to fuel him more into getting Sasuke's power and obtaining it for himself in order to once and for all achieve his dream. But with Sasuke's new powers that take him beyond that of just EMS, Orochimaru may never be able to defeat him only knowing that Sasuke will only get stronger as he is still far of his prime.

If Orochimaru still intends to take over Sasuke body, his move to do so must be now or never. If he is to fail, the only alternative path I could see him taking is by waiting another generation or two for the next transimigrant to appear if he learns of the full truth behind the history of the Sage of 6 Paths and his sons. Of-course as mentioned before, he has already achieved the perfect technique to accomplish this. So really its a matter of how patient he wants to be, but in my opinion, its only a matter of time before he actually achieves his goal unless Naruto and Sasuke see a threat in him, and fully dispose of him before he manages to do anything.

Thanks for reading my theory, and I hope you learnt something out of it. Orochimaru is definitely one of my favorite characters because of how far he has come as a character and continues to evolve showing us newer things all the time. If given the power, I feel he can definitely push it to its limitations and make the most of it. I also forgot to mention that another reason why he would need the sharingan is because of its ability to copy and read different types of jutsu. This would drastically enhance his ability to learn everything at a much faster pace.
 
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I remember making a theory on same topic, before a long time. Though many things have changed after that, but I still agree with most of the points that you made, maybe I should work and make improved version of theory. Orochimaru's character is certainly one of the most well written characters of the villain and I always thought about the possibility of his being the guy responsible for Naruto vs Sasuke.:p
 

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Naruto And Sasuke Are Believed To Be The Final Transmigrants . Since Unlike All Other "Indra(s)" Sasuke Is Working Together With "Ashura" (Naruto) For A Common Good This Has Never Been Done Before . Madara Started To Work With Hishirama But His Plans Diverged
 
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I remember making a theory on same topic, before a long time. Though many things have changed after that, but I still agree with most of the points that you made, maybe I should work and make improved version of theory. Orochimaru's character is certainly one of the most well written characters of the villain and I always thought about the possibility of his being the guy responsible for Naruto vs Sasuke.:p
Thanks for the nice comment, and yeah, I do agree that he is probably the best written villain within the story. Unlike guys like Madara, Obito, Nagato and many more who I can't really be bothered mentioning, they were all manipulated in some sort of way which changed them into characters they were never supposed to be. And yes, he was the one who pushed Sasuke into leaving the village which in turn made Naruto the character he is today. Similar to Hashirama's and Madara's past. Besides Black Zetsu who is just a bull shit character, he has had a lot of influence on the story itself.
 

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Naruto And Sasuke Are Believed To Be The Final Transmigrants . Since Unlike All Other "Indra(s)" Sasuke Is Working Together With "Ashura" (Naruto) For A Common Good This Has Never Been Done Before . Madara Started To Work With Hishirama But His Plans Diverged
Yes, and when I wrote the part about Orochimaru potentially going after the next transmigrants, I had a feeling that the only reason Indra's and Ashura's charkra continued to go down was until it found the 2 people who would end up cooperating and working together ending the cycle of hatred between them. Its like two souls that had never rest in peace.
 

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Not reading that monster. :|
Really only takes a couple of min to skim through that :| For this particular theory though, I had to write a lot as it really does go in depth, but for my future threads, I will either try and shorten it, or add a section which is more simplified. But thanks for your input anyway.
 

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Wtf, some people really have no patience to skim through more than a paragraph? :sigh:

Anyway, great great post. Orochimaru is also one of my favorite characters, and I'm dying to know what's going to happen to him.

The only point in your thread that I disagree with, is that Orochimaru would wait for another generation of transmigrants. Remember, Naruto and Sasuke are supposed to break the cycle of hatred that exists between the two clans. :)

Like you said, if his goal is still to take over Sasuke's body it's now or never. (once he's freed from IT, of course) I'm really hoping Kishi planned him as a final villain and the reason for Naruto VS Sasuke. :)
 
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I think he is somehow related to Black Zetsu

Their is something .. unique about ORO. There is little to no knowledge of his heritage
He is a War Orphan . . he has eyes like no one else in the Manga
 

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Wtf, some people really have no patience to skim through more than a paragraph? :sigh:

Anyway, great great post. Orochimaru is also one of my favorite characters, and I'm dying to know what's going to happen to him.

The only point in your thread that I disagree with, is that Orochimaru would wait for another generation of transmigrants. Remember, Naruto and Sasuke are supposed to break the cycle of hatred that exists between the two clans. :)

Like you said, if his goal is still to take over Sasuke's body it's now or never. (once he's freed from IT, of course) I'm really hoping Kishi planned him as a final villain and the reason for Naruto VS Sasuke. :)
Thanks for your comment, and yes someone else in the comments had pointed that out. I totally agree that Naruto and Sasuke will break the cycle of hatred. As I had mentioned before, its basically two souls that haven't rest in peace yet. Although Indra and Ashura never got along, maybe after they died or later on in their lives, they had a lot of regrets. But the damage they had done during there battles was already irreversible at that stage. By Naruto and Sasuke working together, its pretty much like those brothers managed to reconcile with each other, and end up breaking that cycle which lasted for many generations.
 

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Not reading that monster. :|
Took me like 1 minute. You suck at reading. I hate when people say that. I can only assume you are the same way in your everyday life(unintelligent) as thats how it makes you look. Just saying.

To the OP I agree about Oro character. He has basically no chance at at taking Sasukes body now. Hell he failed when Sasuke only had a 3T sharingan. Now he has EMS/Rinnegan its impossible for Orochimaru. Im still curious about Oros motives, has he really had a change of heart? Only time will tell but I hope Kishi gives Oro more panel time before the series end a year or so from now.
 

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Thanks for your comment, and yes someone else in the comments had pointed that out. I totally agree that Naruto and Sasuke will break the cycle of hatred. As I had mentioned before, its basically two souls that haven't rest in peace yet. Although Indra and Ashura never got along, maybe after they died or later on in their lives, they had a lot of regrets. But the damage they had done during there battles was already irreversible at that stage. By Naruto and Sasuke working together, its pretty much like those brothers managed to reconcile with each other, and end up breaking that cycle which lasted for many generations.
Exactly. :) However, we still have yet to see what Oro and Sasuke's true motives are. To be honest, it seems to me Sasuke is still working together with Naruto for his own selfish reasons, but who knows he might even end up sacrificing himself for the sake of the village or something like that.
 
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