[Discussion] Orochimaru's curse mark and Minato's seal! How do they work?

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NOTE: I made a thread about this on the Naruto questions, but since very few people knew about this topic, I didn't exactly get any answers. Not to mention that I forgot to put in a few more questions. Hopefully I will get good explanations here in the manga section of the forums. xd

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Ok, this has been on my mind for awhile now! I am really confused on regards to Orochimaru's curse mark and Minato's seal and how they work!

As I recall, when Orochimaru places a curse mark on someone, a portion of his chakra is sealed within that person as well. At the beginning of the Ten-Tails Revival Arc, Sasuke had revived Orochimaru using the curse mark that was placed on Anko's neck, but when Orochimaru was revived, he explained that while he was dead, his consciousness ended up inhabiting the seal that was placed on Anko. He also seemed to have known about all of what was going on the whole time! Very similar occurred when Sasuke was battling Itachi during the Itachi pursuit arc! That being said, How does Orochimaru's curse mark exactly work??

Minato's seal is even more confusing, yet strikingly similar to Orochimaru's curse mark! (Not sure about that! Correct me if I'm wrong!) Minato used the Eight Trigrams Seal and placed the his and Kushina's remaining chakra into Naruto. Correct? Minato and Kushina had appeared in Naruto's subconscious years later, however, they are regarded as Chakra imprints, yet at the same time, it is strongly indicated that those chakra imprints were actually Naruto's real parents that he met. During the Invasion of Pain Arc in the anime (Not sure if this is shown in the manga or not), when Naruto is about to free Kuruma thus letting him take over his body, it shows Minato in heaven and rushing to Naruto's rescue. I'm confused! That being said, Did Naruto actually meet his parents or did he meet clones of his parents??? What I mean on regards to "clones of his parents" is what would be equivalent to one of Naruto's Shadow Clones being sealed within someone.

Final questions: Is Orochimaru's curse mark and Minato's seal virtually the same?? OR are they entirely different?? Also, if Minato's seal is virtually the same as Orochimaru's curse mark, then can Minato and Kushina be revived in a similar way to how Orochimaru was revived? I.E. Naruto gathering some of their DNA, extracting their chakra from his seal and performing a jutsu similar to what Sasuke used to revive Orochimaru with. O_O
 
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Bro . I'm not good at explaining . try reading the links . i don't think kushina can be revived through the eight trigram seal then minato would have leave a way to done that long ago like he left key to seal in the belly of a frog .
 

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Curse marks are made out of orochimaru's senjustu chakra.

He studied juugo's clan after he trained with the dragon sage and was unable to use his senjustu in combat thanks to itachi cutting off his hand and making him unable to undo the genjustu thus destroying his body which could no longer sustain the power.
 

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Wait... This is a good point and a good theory


Exactly! That is why I would like an explanation on all of this! If someone can thoroughly answer my questions that I posted on this thread, that would be great! :)
 

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I literally fell asleep trying to read your post but now that I am awake, I will write a response

The curse mark is an extreme version of senju toad oil in which Orochimaru's chakra acts as a catalyst and allows others to gather senjutsu chakra.

Orochimaru is the only one who is physically capable of reviving himself over and over using his chakra- aka the curse seal. The reason is- Orochimaru completed the immortality jutsu, by which he sacrificed his real body and is capable of taking other people's body at will. This also has something to do with the dimension Orochimaru has created in his mind. He truly became immortal this way. Unfortunately, Minato/ Kushina do not have such traits.

What Naruto faced is neither his parents nor their clones. Its more like their chakra in physical form that appeared in his subconscious. This is also no ordinary jutsu, it is an uzumaki clans special seal that allows chakra to take the real form of its user into someone else's mind. Albeit, this jutsu does not allow the users revival.

And even then Minato and Kushina's chakra is completely gone now.
 
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What Naruto faced is neither his parents nor their clones. Its more like their chakra in physical form that appeared in his subconscious. This is also no ordinary jutsu, it is an uzumaki clans special seal that allows chakra to take the real form of its user into someone else's mind. Albeit, this jutsu does not allow the users revival.

That still doesn't explain three things! The first one being the scene where Minato is seen from heaven looking down at his son destroying everything. Two, throughout the manga, both of his parents stated that they sealed their chakra within their son so that they would appear in his psyche. That is implying/indicating that Naruto's real parents appeared inside his mind OR their chakra imprints appeared inside his mind, but his real parents were talking through the imprints from heaven.

Finally, the second point that I made can be backed up by the third point, which is: How is it that when Minato arrived on the battlefield, he knew that Sasuke was Naruto's friend, yet Sasuke never mentioned diddly squat about him and Naruto being friends. Actually, he didn't mention or reference Naruto at all when talking with the Hokages. O_O
 

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Bro . I'm not good at explaining . try reading the links . i don't think kushina can be revived through the eight trigram seal then minato would have leave a way to done that long ago like he left key to seal in the belly of a frog .

He left the key to the seal in the belly of a frog, yet his son can open the seal anytime he wants regardless of that. That sounds like an inconsistency to me..

Anyway, hopefully more people will respond to this thread. It's a pretty interesting one after all. :)
 
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