Orochimaru's abilities

[markdabomb22]

i dont think it was his intent. he was just pointing out some techs of oro, then we saw the databook and i (and others) started to claim j-man was stronger. lol.

lol xd well all i was trying to say was who is stronger and who would win in a fight are two different things.

With who is stronger solid facts like databook/stats come into play.other fights and matchups hold no ground here just solid facts

who would win in a fight is where matchups and opinions come into play.

Ultimately who is stronger is fact(because of DB/stats by the author) and who would win is more of an opinion based off what we have seen displayed from the characters themselves.

 

[cactusj]

Just hoping that the best is yet to come with Oro's abilities - given that we haven't seen him in a true life or death battle yet. Hoping they have something special planned.

 

[IzunaUchiha2]

The sannin are all equal

 

[angel131740]

At the end of the day, orochimaru was playing around with 4 tails naruto and jiraiya nearly got killed by it. need i say more?

annnnnddddd this is where I stop listening to you, Jiraiya was trying to not hurt Naruto...hence the letting Naruto hurt him that badly. :sy:

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

Oro could become the main Protaganist again.

Antagonist. Protagonists are the good guys lol

 

[Deidara Uchiha un]

I like his snake jutsus and edo tensei xD Meybe Kabuto does Edo better but still i like more Oro's style
and yeah he is sick freack xD but still i like him
:noc:

 

[Honord Sage]

The last time Jiraiya and Orochimaru fought, Jiraiya had ben drug by Tsunade. Jiraiya was not at 100 per-scent in power and ability, nor Orochimaru either who had lost the use of His arms. The fight was a draw because of this,so neither has fought each other at full strength and abilities. So we do not know or will know sines Jiraiya is gone,who is the strongest of the two. In either case their both weak next to Naruto.

 

[sujandon]

At the end of the day, orochimaru was playing around with 4 tails naruto and jiraiya nearly got killed by it. need i say more?

You do have to consider that Naruto was Jiraiya's student and he cared for Naruto's safety and didn't want to attack Naruto. Orochimaru doesn't care about Naruto so he used so many techs to defend himself. Maybe Jiraiya got hurt because he was trying to CALM NARUTO DOWN without any techs.

 

[HiddenSound]

I mostly agree. Orochimaru is the strongest Sannin, he was (obviously) stronger than old Hiruzen but not if he was 10 years younger. Kabuto did surpass Orochimaru, however. Orochimaru is extremely powerful, but not top 5, unfortunately. Either way, I still agree with most, so +rep.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

they did both fight at full power when jiraiya tried bringing oro back to the village and oro won.

Kabuto was Never equal to Orochimaru:


Itachi knew about orochimaru's powers and said to kabuto that dont act like u r orochimaru. u can never b him

he was obviously wrong as kabuto is just following the will of someone he admires. itachis word isnt fact.

orochimaru in top ten:
1. S06P
2. His Younger Son
3. His elder Son
4. Rinnegan tobi
5. Orochimaru Edo tensei; hashirama + tobirama

kabuto: edo madara, nagato, kinkaku, third raikage, muu > hashirama and tobirama

Databook disagrees..... j-man>oro also hiruzen> oro

databook is a guide and was never meant to be added up like that since adding seals to taijutsu doesnt make sense. they have nothing to do with each other. one can have a lower overall score yet have a high score in the areas that count (speed, intelligence)

oro is not in top 10 lol, more like top 15

wrong. ET and immortality alone put him at the top

orochimaru was going for the kill,

actually he was testing naruto tio see if he could take on sasuke

if orochimaru was stronger than j-man why did itachi punk him to leave akakatuski?

because obviously oro surpassed jiraiya in the part 1 era, not a decade earlier.

jiraiya was/is stronger. why? simple. would oro be able to defeat pain (even one) in the same situation that jiraiya was in? i would think not.

that proves nothing. jiraiya was a good match as he knew and trained nagato, and had backup that were useful and willingly fought for him. if oro had prep and summoned a few strong edos hed kill pain

j-man knows some sealing techs. so he could seal them after making edo's immobile.

so sealing amaterasu = sealing a whole body that fights back?

he was able to kill his ENTIRE clan - the powerful uchihas (with help of tobi).

they were sleeping and as you said tobi was there too

 

[dawoodahmad]

they did both fight at full power when jiraiya tried bringing oro back to the village and oro won.
he was obviously wrong as kabuto is just following the will of someone he admires. itachis word isnt fact.

kabuto: edo madara, nagato, kinkaku, third raikage, muu > hashirama and tobirama

databook is a guide and was never meant to be added up like that since adding seals to taijutsu doesnt make sense. they have nothing to do with each other. one can have a lower overall score yet have a high score in the areas that count (speed, intelligence)

wrong. ET and immortality alone put him at the top
actually he was testing naruto tio see if he could take on sasuke

because obviously oro surpassed jiraiya in the part 1 era, not a decade earlier.

that proves nothing. jiraiya was a good match as he knew and trained nagato, and had backup that were useful and willingly fought for him. if oro had prep and summoned a few strong edos hed kill pain
so sealing amaterasu = sealing a whole body that fights back?

they were sleeping and as you said tobi was there too

Edo hashirama>edo madara, tobirama>kinkaku third raikage and nagato

 

[veggetta13]

Hard choice.

I do give respect to Orochimaru. Great skills, variety, huge amount of chakra, and supposedly, endless knowledge of jutsu.

It´s not that you guys are speaking about a bar fighter, in an evil freaky way, he´s one hell of a sensei, gatherer of knowledge-really-twisted bad a55 MTF.
With different eyes, or maybe higher genjutsu, he could have survived as he did before.

This thing about Oro fighting Uchihas really goes nowhere, so as for any other random ninja who´s not an uchiha, genjutsu juts gets u and d ballgame is over so...

 

[BONTUL]

Whoa.. we got a fanboy over here.

 

[dawoodahmad]

Whoa.. we got a fanboy over here.

i'm not a fanboy; imjust shared thoughts
i m a tobi fanboy