[Discussion] Orochimaru
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FlashKID124
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it wasn't just how strong minato was.. the 3rd noticed how orochimaru was changing.. he knew his mind wasn't stable and felt that minato had a better mindset to be hokage.. i mean, evil just resonates off of a face like Oro's..
Yes but the question is about their power...
I agree that minato would be a tough fight for oro ... however Oro definitely would have had a chance!
Come on .. Minato teleporting behind him .. using rasengan .. causing Oro to puke out another orochimaru who instantely shoots out his snake arms to bite and poison minato.
I agree that minato would be a tough fight for oro ... however Oro definitely would have had a chance!
Come on .. Minato teleporting behind him .. using rasengan .. causing Oro to puke out another orochimaru who instantely shoots out his snake arms to bite and poison minato.
FlashKID124
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sure, but he could just dodge the snakes.. oro can't match minato in speed.. and its not like oro can just keep on spitting out new bodies.. there's gotta be some sort of limit to that jutsu.. and we still don't know just how many levels there are to FTG.. minato could get even faster..
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Honord Sage
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It was not a question of power, but of commitment to The Will of Fire, Orochimaru had no commitment to the will of Fire Minato did. The 3rd Hokage wanted someone to continue the legacy pass down from the First Hokage, Orochimaru did not believe in this He believe in doing anything that was needed to be done wether it was right or wrong.
I was under the impression during the fight between Sasuke and Itachi that the "vomit substitution jutsu" was chakra expensive. Itachi hit Sasuke with Ameratsu, Sasuke used it (vomit substitution jutsu) to escape below, and Itachi said he recognized it and that the jutsu uses up a lot of chakra. Also, wasn't Orochimaru worn out after fighting 4-tail Naruto (yes his body was nearing its end too) where he used the jutsu around 4-5 times?
Orochimaru also had edo tensei when he fought Sarutobi, not sure if he had it back then. Even so, Minato would be wreck him. I have feeling that we'll start to see the weaknesses of Minato.
True, not to mention the fact that Sarutobi should've killed him when he broke into Orochimaru's secret lab. Then there would've been no discussion.
veggetta13
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There is a limit to oro's reincarnation or spitting jutsu. I wastes lots of chakra lols!!!
InevitablePAIN
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Minato's speed would be the main factor of why he would win? If you guys think that minato is only fast with FTG than you are wrong.Minato's raw strength is even faster than lees without weights.This is also the jutsus they had and why minato would be better:
Oro uses a snake jutsu/ Minato uses FTG to escape
Oro Summons a huge snake (manda) / Minato summons Gamabunto
And a lot more.Oro just cant keep up with minato.And even if you think he is stronger,oro's overconfidence would be his main downfall
Oro uses a snake jutsu/ Minato uses FTG to escape
Oro Summons a huge snake (manda) / Minato summons Gamabunto
And a lot more.Oro just cant keep up with minato.And even if you think he is stronger,oro's overconfidence would be his main downfall
Orochimaru the Snake
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you people are forgetting oro does not need to use his oral rebirth
the guy can not be hurt by taijutsu
Oro also has the biggest jutsu collecton in the series and we have seen like 20 of them we dont know Oro's full power this would be a close fight
Oro was passed over for Hokage because he was too power hungry
the guy can not be hurt by taijutsu
Oro also has the biggest jutsu collecton in the series and we have seen like 20 of them we dont know Oro's full power this would be a close fight
Oro was passed over for Hokage because he was too power hungry
i think it was because hes retarded... i mean come on we've seen the potential of the tailed beasts and oro was a member of akatsuki he also knew of the tailed beasts power... but he didn't seem to care about them all he wanted was his precious sharingan
you have to understand that Orochimaru was the early story Bad ass, his time passed
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one of 2 moments where itachi ownz Orochimaru without any effort, now when we look how Minato fought Tobi so far, we clearly see that they are difrent in lvlslets take itachi and tobi as equals wich i doubt
Orochimaru was a badass, and will always be one. He may not be as fast as the 4th but he has other qualities like great defense, Edo Tensei and a whole shtload of ninjutsu. We haven't even seen Orochimaru's full potential. His fight against the 3rd was more about the 1st and 2nd's abilites. Then his fight against 4tails Naruto showcased the Kyuubi's abilities, as he was only playing around and testing him, but was pushed to his limit.
Itachi beat him quickly yea but that doesn't mean he's on a whole other level. It's just how the fight went down...Itachi caught him with the genjutsu by surprise. The Uchiha are special with their unique genjutsu powers especially Itachi, so if u dont have a way to get out of genjutsu, u can be raped pretty easily. But that does not mean Itachi>>>>>>>>Orochimaru.
Oro was a genius, just like the 4th. He always will be. Don't you see how his will lives on. Everything is mentioned for a reason...Kabuto said Oro is taking over his body, that was for a reason...Oro will come back, probably after the war.
So to answer the thread, no i dont think he overestimates himself. Orochimaru in my book is extremely strong and can fight against pretty much anyone. But he is weak against genjutsu, just like Naruto.
When they were younger, Minato would rape Oro. But Oro is learning new techs all the time, like Edo Tensei and body transfering techs... he is the type of person who could end up the main villain again like Madara, and live for long.
Itachi beat him quickly yea but that doesn't mean he's on a whole other level. It's just how the fight went down...Itachi caught him with the genjutsu by surprise. The Uchiha are special with their unique genjutsu powers especially Itachi, so if u dont have a way to get out of genjutsu, u can be raped pretty easily. But that does not mean Itachi>>>>>>>>Orochimaru.
Oro was a genius, just like the 4th. He always will be. Don't you see how his will lives on. Everything is mentioned for a reason...Kabuto said Oro is taking over his body, that was for a reason...Oro will come back, probably after the war.
So to answer the thread, no i dont think he overestimates himself. Orochimaru in my book is extremely strong and can fight against pretty much anyone. But he is weak against genjutsu, just like Naruto.
When they were younger, Minato would rape Oro. But Oro is learning new techs all the time, like Edo Tensei and body transfering techs... he is the type of person who could end up the main villain again like Madara, and live for long.
Minato was joung and powerful since he was young, reddy to fight any time and protect the Village
Orochimaru was always busy on his sadistic experements, making himself strong not the natural way, most of the time he was sick....now when the trouble comes, how calm u can say he was not reddy?
its his own fault he cant do thing fair and square, Orochimaru is PATHETIC NIN! Yes he was sadistic, evil, envious etc etc. But that doesn't change the fact that he was a genius feared by many. He would have been an ideal replacement for the 3rd had he not been evil. Orochimaru knows more techs than probably 99% of that ninja world, and most of them were S class forbidden jutsu. So much techs that he made a big deal of it if someone showed him a jutsu he didn't know eg. Tsunade.Minato was joung and powerful since he was young, reddy to fight any time and protect the Village
Orochimaru was always busy on his sadistic experements, making himself strong not the natural way, most of the time he was sick....now when the trouble comes, how calm u can say he was not reddy?
Yes ninja techs is not everything to make a great ninja... But it is a strong asset and a very good one to have.
Yamato wouldn't be born if it wasn't for him, and we all like Yamato right?
Oro is recless, he was defeated 4 times... just one very well performed jutsu can cost him life, without using any of his forbidden jutsus. he lost all battles shown 1 on 1, and u cant say it was unfair, surviving is one part of Nin path, u cant hide 100 years learning techs and come out when ur complite
its lame, Oro is pathetic, he knows alot but he still sucks..Haha well u seem to have made up your mind. I guess u hate the guy oh well.Oro is recless, he was defeated 4 times... just one very well performed jutsu can cost him life, without using any of his forbidden jutsus. he lost all battles shown 1 on 1, and u cant say it was unfair, surviving is one part of Nin path, u cant hide 100 years learning techs and come out when ur complite
But for the record...
Jiraiya never beat Orochimaru. Oro with no arms fought against Tsunade and Jiraiya and held his own. He toyed with 4tails and came out of it with only exhaustion, while Jiraiya did the same and almost died. Kakashi was scared shtless when he decided to fight him. Who else scared Kakashi like that? Madara. And last, he formulated an entire attack against Konoha and was almost successful in destroying it. Who else we know attempted that to such a degree? Pain, and Madara. Oh and Manda can wtfpawn any summon that we have seen so far. Orochimaru is serious dude... hate his personality but he is smart, cunning and strong. Good traits for a ninja