[Discussion] Orochimaru

[yuredonitemare]

Ryūchi Cave (龍地洞, Ryūchidō; Literally meaning "Dragon Ground Cave") is a legendary place that is equally as famous as Mount Myōboku and Shikkotsu Forest. This is where the sacred White Snake Sage resides and where Orochimaru uncovered the source of Jūgo's clan's abilities.[1] Orochimaru and later Kabuto Yakushi trained here to achieve Sage Mode.

The only one I see who's not worried or scared.. The king of reincarnation! He must also have some intel and tricks up his sleeve. Would love to See Orochimaru enter sage mode please kishi!! please!!

Let me know your opinions on this possibility.

 

[Fair Warning]

No, not happening, never. Sorry.

Orochimaru is not god, jezzus

 

[chopstickchakra]

Yes Orochimaru has Sage mode. It said in the manga the only reason he couldn't reach full sage the way Kabuto did was due to his body, now he has a new body he should be able to activate Sage mode even if it is only an imperfect sage mode like Jiraiya had he still has the ability to enter sage mode.

 

[foxyladyland]

yep... it seems orochimaru *snake charmer* sage mode is at an optional level . .-.

 

[H a n]

Alot of things we need to learn about him.

 

[Naijakid]

Maybe but kabuto said oro doesn't. Have it

 

[chopstickchakra]

Maybe but kabuto said oro doesn't. Have it

Not true, Kabuto said he wasn't able to achieve Sage mode equal to Kabuto's sage mode due to his body, he did acknowledge that Oro learned sage mode though.

Look at it like this
Jiraiya/Oro-imperfect sage mode
Naruto/Kabuto-perfect sage mode

Then again thinking about what Jiraiya said Kabuto may not have actually attained "perfect" sage mode the way Naruto did. People assume he did because of a statement he made about himself, well that's not really evidence, that's bragging. Jiraiya achieved an imperfect sage mode form where he took on physical characteristics of the frog, Naruto did not. In Kabuto's sage mode form he has the skin of the snake/dragon and the horns of the dragon as well, both physical characteristics of the animal he learned sage mode through.

I have a strong feeling we'll see Orochimaru with his new body demonstrate a true "perfect" sage mode and prove that Kabuto was still inferior to him.

 

[Meowazziel]

Oro like a boss!
Oro=
His enemies=

Not true, Kabuto said he wasn't able to achieve Sage mode equal to Kabuto's sage mode due to his body, he did acknowledge that Oro learned sage mode though.

Look at it like this
Jiraiya/Oro-imperfect sage mode
Naruto/Kabuto-perfect sage mode

Then again thinking about what Jiraiya said Kabuto may not have actually attained "perfect" sage mode the way Naruto did. People assume he did because of a statement he made about himself, well that's not really evidence, that's bragging. Jiraiya achieved an imperfect sage mode form where he took on physical characteristics of the frog, Naruto did not. In Kabuto's sage mode form he has the skin of the snake/dragon and the horns of the dragon as well, both physical characteristics of the animal he learned sage mode through.

I have a strong feeling we'll see Orochimaru with his new body demonstrate a true "perfect" sage mode and prove that Kabuto was still inferior to him.

Yeah, there is a chance that Kabuto's sage mode was not a true perfect sage mode. Allthough who knows. Kabuto already looked like a snake before he entered sage mode. I dont think that horns and snake eyes are similar in the amount of characteristics compared to Jiraiya, who's hands and feet, face and basically everything turned more froggy.
On top of this, he couldnt obtain it without ma and pa frog.
Kabuto's snake eyes and horns are more comparable to Naruto's frog eyes imo than all the physical changes in appearance that Jiraiya went through.
Dont you agree?

 

[chopstickchakra]

Oro like a boss!
Oro=
His enemies=
Yeah, there is a chance that Kabuto's sage mode was not a true perfect sage mode. Allthough who knows. Kabuto already looked like a snake before he entered sage mode. I dont think that horns and snake eyes are similar in the amount of characteristics compared to Jiraiya, who's hands and feet, face and basically everything turned more froggy.
On top of this, he couldnt obtain it without ma and pa frog.
Kabuto's snake eyes and horns are more comparable to Naruto's frog eyes imo than all the physical changes in appearance that Jiraiya went through.
Dont you agree?

Somewhat yes, I just have a hard time accepting Kabuto could have actually surpassed Orochimaru. After all that was kind of the whole point Itachi tried to show him "imitating someone won't get you where you truly want to go" but idk Kabuto called himself a true sage maybe he was a true sage I just know characters in Naruto lie, pretty frequently, especially the villains. The ma&pa frog thing is a good point but really only his hands/feet and nose changed when he entered sage mode(and inexplicably his makeup).

I always assumed it was like this
Jiraiya/Oro-imperfect sage mode
Naruto/Kabuto-perfect sage mode

But then I started thinking about why Naruto doesn't shown any body changes and I never really understood why Kabuto looked snakey after absorbing Oro's chakra when Oro himself never looked snakey. Plus I don't remember Kabuto "entering" DSM during the Uchiha fight just taking off his robe and revealing it which means maybe all those times we saw him all scaley he was in his sage mode which is maybe why he had better control over the edo's since sage mode enhances the users jutsu's and all. Idk just a thought.

 

[Meowazziel]

Plus I don't remember Kabuto "entering" DSM during the Uchiha fight just taking off his robe and revealing it which means maybe all those times we saw him all scaley he was in his sage mode which is maybe why he had better control over the edo's since sage mode enhances the users jutsu's and all. Idk just a thought.

He was not in DSM yet.
DSM has black eyewhite. Non-DSM has white eyewhite.