Orochimaru vs Tsunade and Sakura.

[super yang]

Orochimaru wins

 

[Beans2]

Tsunade and Sakura win

 

[HiddenSound]

Tsunade and Sakura win

I'd like to hear you explain how?
Given that it's basically a count down until Orochimaru's Spore Jutsu activates within them, paralyzing and draining them long enough to apply a Curse Mark and the finishing blow.
Which will be a relatively easy thing to do given Orochimaru's new Clone Jutsu

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Keep in mind that Jutsu was used with Zetsu's Chakra, so Orochimaru's version will be much better given his far superior Chakra.

If he for some reason does feel pushed, he just needs to pump out those Clones and wait using Leech All Creation or Mayfly until he can find an opening to apply the Curse Mark, or as I said, until the Spores activate.

 

[Lariatoo]

Orochimaru would probably win under regular conditions. This way is a stomp.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Tsunade is too much for him, adding Sakura is overkill.

I'd like to hear you explain how?
Given that it's basically a count down until Orochimaru's Spore Jutsu activates within them, paralyzing and draining them long enough to apply a Curse Mark and the finishing blow.
Which will be a relatively easy thing to do given Orochimaru's new Clone Jutsu

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Keep in mind that Jutsu was used with Zetsu's Chakra, so Orochimaru's version will be much better given his far superior Chakra.

If he for some reason does feel pushed, he just needs to pump out those Clones and wait using Leech All Creation or Mayfly until he can find an opening to apply the Curse Mark, or as I said, until the Spores activate.

Just like Sasori poison paralyzed Sakura? Willpower > poisons.
Curse mark is negated due to Byakugou seal, Seal overpower seal, and orochimaru wouldn't dare do that or he'd die.
Orochiamru wont get to close to Tsunade or Sakura he doesn't have what it takes to fight her in up close,

Sakura elbow was enough to great paralyze a zetsu clone

 

[HiddenSound]

Tsunade is too much for him, adding Sakura is overkill.

That's cute .

 

[FemmeFatale]

That's cute .

Baby as long as you know that, I can back any claim I want to, baby that's actual and manga factual.

 

[HiddenSound]

^PawsX is seriously the only Taunade fanboy with an actual ounce of credibility. That's pretty much all I have to say to you.

 

[FemmeFatale]

^PawsX is seriously the only Taunade fanboy with an actual ounce of credibility. That's pretty much all I have to say to you.

What I thought.
Okay have a good one.


Ot: Can someone tell me how he get close enough to hurt them (even thought they can regenerate) and without on of them knocking the life out of him. And what are these speed feats, that makes him blitz her.

Tsunade hav threaten him many times, Orochimaru admits that tsunade is a threat countless of time, even when she was cut in two he said he never could have thought she could be in such a condition.

And where is this fanfic, superior orochimaru coming from? Orochimaru never actually hit Tsunade ever, when he stabbed her , he didn't run his sword through her chest, she ran her chest into his sword.

 

[Red Flag X Drake]

With the Zetsu shit maybe he wins. High diff either way

 

[Beans2]

I'd like to hear you explain how?
Given that it's basically a count down until Orochimaru's Spore Jutsu activates within them, paralyzing and draining them long enough to apply a Curse Mark and the finishing blow.
Which will be a relatively easy thing to do given Orochimaru's new Clone Jutsu

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Keep in mind that Jutsu was used with Zetsu's Chakra, so Orochimaru's version will be much better given his far superior Chakra.

If he for some reason does feel pushed, he just needs to pump out those Clones and wait using Leech All Creation or Mayfly until he can find an opening to apply the Curse Mark, or as I said, until the Spores activate.

WZ durability is is weak enough where it can be blown off with

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, weak enough for Obito to

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an arm, or Kankuro to

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. Tsunade and Sakura can use chakra scalpel to cut Zetsu off themselves or flex their muscles and cause them to burst, or

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their bodies. Zetsu didn't make actual clones in that panel, he just summoned other white Zetsus which is exactly what Orochimaru would be doing, so no reason to believe those Zetsus would be capable of using Orochimaru's ninjutsu, especially on a high level.

Don't think a curse mark would affect a Byakogou user much with their constant regeneration and pain tolerance, I doubt it would kill either one and entering close combat or extending his long vulnerable neck to deliver the curse mark would be suicide for Orochimaru when either one of them could punch it. Besides, they might be able to overpower a curse mark with their willpower like Sasuke did twice [

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Zetsu clones are even weaker than Juubi clones which Sakura sent hundreds of flying with a punch to the ground, so they are dealt with easily. Outlasting the two isn't really feasible and merging with the ground using Mayfly isn't a great idea since punches to the ground would wreck him that way. Also, Orochimaru has no chance of getting an opening to apply the curse mark or any other close-range attack when there's both Sakura and Tsunade to keep a lookout, as well as Katsuyu which can split up into hundreds of pieces and keep a look out from all angles, and alert back to Sakura and Tsunade instantly. Boss summons would be incapacitated with a single punch and Hydra would be melted to a puddle by 10% Katsuyu.

The only thing I can see maybe posing a threat is the poisonous blood from Orochimaru's true form....but Sakura and Tsunade's punches deal internal damage instead and there wouldn't be a reason for blood the make conact with the air, and he cant deal with them simultaneously. A punch to the head area would kill him, or several bijuu-sized portions of Katsuyu finish him off with acid.

 

[HiddenSound]

What I thought.
Okay have a good one.


Ot: Can someone tell me how he get close enough to hurt them (even thought they can regenerate) and without on of them knocking the life out of him. And what are these speed feats, that makes him blitz her.

Tsunade hav threaten him many times, Orochimaru admits that tsunade is a threat countless of time, even when she was cut in two he said he never could have thought she could be in such a condition.

And where is this fanfic, superior orochimaru coming from? Orochimaru never actually hit Tsunade ever, when he stabbed her , he didn't run his sword through her chest, she ran her chest into his sword.

Oh so you're actually going to say something.

He gets close due to his superior speed. Check the databook, he's a tier faster than her. And in the manga,

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Note the length of the bridge. He appeared, from within the forest, halfway at a speed undetectable by both Kabuto and Yamato.

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Bear in mind that this Orochimaru is not the one in this thread. That Orochimaru was weakened, sick and dying from an eroding host body. The Orochimaru in this thread is at full power and is upgraded by with a body made completely from Hashirama's cells. How is he not going to hit Tsunade?

Who cares? The 5 Kage threatened Edo Madara, look how that turned out.

You mean in the fight where he had no arms and was suffering from fever? You're comparing to Orochimaru at his weakest to him at his strongest.

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Does Tsunade have a counter to Zetsu's Spore Jutsu now being used by Orochimaru?

 

[HiddenSound]

WZ durability is is weak enough where it can be blown off with

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, weak enough for Obito to

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an arm, or Kankuro to

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. Tsunade and Sakura can use chakra scalpel to cut Zetsu off themselves or flex their muscles and cause them to burst, or

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their bodies. Zetsu didn't make actual clones in that panel, he just summoned other white Zetsus which is exactly what Orochimaru would be doing, so no reason to believe those Zetsus would be capable of using Orochimaru's ninjutsu, especially on a high level.

Don't think a curse mark would affect a Byakogou user much with their constant regeneration and pain tolerance, I doubt it would kill either one and entering close combat or extending his long vulnerable neck to deliver the curse mark would be suicide for Orochimaru when either one of them could punch it. Besides, they might be able to overpower a curse mark with their willpower like Sasuke did twice [

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Zetsu clones are even weaker than Juubi clones which Sakura sent hundreds of flying with a punch to the ground, so they are dealt with easily. Outlasting the two isn't really feasible and merging with the ground using Mayfly isn't a great idea since punches to the ground would wreck him that way. Also, Orochimaru has no chance of getting an opening to apply the curse mark or any other close-range attack when there's both Sakura and Tsunade to keep a lookout, as well as Katsuyu which can split up into hundreds of pieces and keep a look out from all angles, and alert back to Sakura and Tsunade instantly. Boss summons would be incapacitated with a single punch and Hydra would be melted to a puddle by 10% Katsuyu.

The only thing I can see maybe posing a threat is the poisonous blood from Orochimaru's true form....but Sakura and Tsunade's punches deal internal damage instead and there wouldn't be a reason for blood the make conact with the air, and he cant deal with them simultaneously. A punch to the head area would kill him, or several bijuu-sized portions of Katsuyu finish him off with acid.

I'd agree with your first point, if Orochimaru's bodies were naturally as weak as they are by themselves. With Orochimaru in a normal body, it becomes powerful enough to withstand the likes of a weakened 4-Tailed TBB. So, I see no reason to believe Orochimaru's body is now somehow as weak as a normal Zetsu body.

No, they probably wouldn't be able to use Orochimaru's high level Jutsu. However, that's not where their power lies. It lies in numbers and distraction. You're comparing the slow, mindless Juubi clones to someone as smart and fast as Orochimaru? I'm not seeing the correlation between them. Just because she can hit 1 target does not mean she can hit another totally different one.

Because Sakura and Tsunade can't be split up from each other by the dozens upon dozens of Orochimaru? And if Katsuyu splits into hundreds of pieces, it'd be even easier for Orochimaru to deal with her. Merely send out one clone to quickly deal with all of them so they either poof away or are forced to go back to the original. An easy thing to do especially given Orochimaru's new sensory abilities added onto his own great perception.

I agree the summonings could be taken out though.

The "punch to the head" argument. I still don't believe it. First, Tsunade or Sakura would have to be fast enough to actually hit his head, and secondly it'd have to actually be him and not a clone. That, and the whole punch to the head thing already happened before and didn't do much. I realize the conditions were far, far from ideal on both sides, but still.

So do they have a counter to the Spore Jutsu? It'd be even worse for them if Orochimaru's Spore Clones could use the Juinjutsu once they appear, which I don't see why they wouldn't be able to.

 

[HiddenSound]

Oh and one more thing. I'm no anatomy expert, but wouldn't you say Orochimaru's brain was deactivated here?

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Either that or very cloe to it, seeing from his eyes going white.

So if Orochimaru can use Oral Rebirth despite his brain being gone, wouldn't you say that Tsunade or Sakura punching his head would not defeat him? Of course, that is if they can.

 

[RedRobin]

Oh and one more thing. I'm no anatomy expert, but wouldn't you say Orochimaru's brain was deactivated here?

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Either that or very cloe to it, seeing from his eyes going white.

So if Orochimaru can use Oral Rebirth despite his brain being gone, wouldn't you say that Tsunade or Sakura punching his head would not defeat him? Of course, that is if they can.

No his brain wasnt even touched, his throat was slit.

 

[HiddenSound]

No his brain wasnt even touched, his throat was slit.

I... I can see that...
Kabuto killed him so hard that his eyes went pale quickly. I'm wondering if his eyes going pale, a sign of death, also means that his brain was deactivated due to his apparent death. But as you can see, Oral Rebirth still activated despite his loss of life/possible deactivation of his brain.
And if his brain was indeed gone there, that shuts down that argument.

 

[RedRobin]

I... I can see that...
Kabuto killed him so hard that his eyes went pale quickly. I'm wondering if his eyes going pale, a sign of death, also means that his brain was deactivated due to his apparent death. But as you can see, Oral Rebirth still activated despite his loss of life/possible deactivation of his brain.
And if his brain was indeed gone there, that shuts down that argument.

If his brain is done, nothing is activating oral rebirth. Nothing has ever stated that death activates oral rebirth. Orochimaru activates oral rebirth, its not an atomic thing.

Orochimaru has been through worse than what Kabuto did to him in that scenario.

 

[HiddenSound]

If his brain is done, nothing is activating oral rebirth. Nothing has ever stated that death activates oral rebirth. Orochimaru activates oral rebirth, its not an atomic thing.

Orochimaru has been through worse than what Kabuto did to him in that scenario.

Not exactly the answer I was looking for. If his brain is done, then you're wrong. I'll try to look it up.

Edit: Getting mixed answers on this. Some people said that getting "milky eyes" is a sign of imminent death, while another site said postmortem eye clouding occurs within the first two hours of death. According to one site, Orochimaru would just be barely alive but therefore able to use Oral Rebirth (maybe). According to the other, Orochimaru would be dead meaning Oral Rebirth activated without his brain having been used.

 

[KingHashirama]

Tsunade and Sakura low dif.

HE ain't surving a combo attack from both of them....

Something like this:

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[HiddenSound]

Tsunade and Sakura low dif.

HE ain't surving a combo attack from both of them....

Something like this:

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