Orochimaru vs Snake Sage Mode Kabuto

[GucciSinclair]

Location: The cave where Kabuto fought Itachi and Sasuke
Starting Distance: 50m
Knowledge: Manga, so almost everything.
Restrictions: Edo Tensei, Manda, Manda II

Scenario 1: 8 head Hydra is restricted
Scenario 2: White Snake is restricted for Orochimaru
Scenario 3: both 8 head Hydra and White Snake(Orochimaru) are restricted
Scenario 4: Neither 8 head Hydra nor White Snake are restricted

btw I think feats within Izanami shouldn't be considered as feats, since they aren't real.

is there a way Kabuto can kill Orochimaru?? his most common attack chakra scalpel was used on Orochimaru in the flashback and we saw how that turned out...

 

[P3ĮÑ]

Even if kabuto beats him he'd still lose cause orochimaru doesn't die

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

kabuto has all of orochimarus abilities in addition to the rest of his accumalated power. thanks to sakon's kekkei genkai. fight is pointless. orochimaru cant do anything about hakugeki or muki tensei due to not having katon or a resistance to pain

 

[GucciSinclair]

Even if kabuto beats him he'd still lose cause orochimaru doesn't die

well, sealing him, turning him into dust, completely incapacitate him would count as a win, can Kabuto even do that?

 

[GucciSinclair]

kabuto has all of orochimarus abilities in addition to the rest of his accumalated power. thanks to sakon's kekkei genkai. fight is pointless. orochimaru cant do anything about hakugeki or muki tensei due to not having katon or a resistance to pain

no Kabuto doesn't, Orochimaru's White Snake has poison within it his blood, Kabuto doesn't, Kabuto is afraid of Amaterasu, which means he can't use Orochimaru style body replacement, at least not as well as Orochimaru. Orochimaru can soften his body and stretch any part, Kabuto can't, Orochimaru has the sword that cuts through almost anything, Kabuto doesn't. Kabuto having Orochimaru's DNA only means he can access a part of Orochimaru's ability, not all. you can't assume Kabuto can use Hydra because Orochimaru can.
what is hakugeki or muki tensei gonna do to Orochimaru? specially Muki Tensei since Orochimaru soften his body will avoid all damage easily, even if damaged, it's not even gonna affect him.
even if Sage Kabuto can't be killed just like Orochimaru(which is not the case, that's why he relies on Karin's healing ability and sensing to avoid getting hit), Orochimaru can undo Sage Mode on Kabuto when he gets the chance and easily kills him.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

kabuto never showed fear of ammy. he only commented it is the greatest ocular offence. nothing states he cant use the replacement as well. kabuto has stretched his mouth in an attempt to capture sasuke so wrong again.
orochimarus kusanagi is useless and has never cut anything impressive. i never bought into its hype.
kabuto having the orochimaru clone via sakon means he can do anything oro can. same with naruto and his clones.
orochimaru not being able to see or hear anything is useful. kusanagis not alive so kabuto takes control of it and stabs oro in the face.

Orochimaru can undo Sage Mode on Kabuto

not before kabuto captures him and sucks his chakra out

if Sage Kabuto can't be killed just like Orochimaru which is not the case

yes it is the case. if he regenerates via skin shedding and heals injuries how can one put him down?

 

[GucciSinclair]

kabuto never showed fear of ammy. he only commented it is the greatest ocular offence. nothing states he cant use the replacement as well. kabuto has stretched his mouth in an attempt to capture sasuke so wrong again.
orochimarus kusanagi is useless and has never cut anything impressive. i never bought into its hype.
kabuto having the orochimaru clone via sakon means he can do anything oro can. same with naruto and his clones.
orochimaru not being able to see or hear anything is useful. kusanagis not alive so kabuto takes control of it and stabs oro in the face.
not before kabuto captures him and sucks his chakra out
yes it is the case. if he regenerates via skin shedding and heals injuries how can one put him down?

Amaterasu was enough to stop Kabuto from moving to prevent getting hit, if he can use body replacement the same degree as Orochimaru, he can simply go through the flame, as he exits just rebirth from his mouth again, but he couldn't.
he can stretch his mouth but not soften his body, he has to stretch his mouth for his true form to come out anyways, it's something he has done more than once, but not often his body.
Kabuto having Orochimaru's DNA does not make him gain all the ability of Orochimaru, only to a certain degree, Kabuto can't turn his body into liquid the same degree Suigetsu does, Suigetsu will never let a part of his body get cut off without turning into water, unless being electrocuted.
since Orochimaru knows everything about Kabuto, he knows Muki Tensei, and how long the prep time is, first Kabuto gotta give the life to the natural around him, then to control it he has to touch it, how is he ever gonna get a chance to touch Kusanagi Sword without getting his hands cut off? Orochimaru can hand to sword to Kabuto for him to stab him in the face, what does that do? nothing.
Making Orochimaru not able to see or hear, what is that gonna do? plus Orochimaru knows the technique, Rashomon then going underground, countering it easily.
when did Kabuto suck the chakra out of someone? only Orochimaru was about to do that to Kabuto, the exact opposite.
Kabuto has never regenerated through shedding skin, in fact he only shed his skin before to make his true form coming out, he even said he liquifies his body to make it look like shedding skin. he only heals his wound from Karin's ability, he can be killed that's why he had to use the fact Itachi and Sasuke won't kill him to his advantage, a fatal wound would kill him, that's why he avoids most in coming attacks with sensing, even Suigetsu suggested that Orochimaru was going to kill him.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Oro has Mokuton and with Hashi's DNA he can probably use Sage Mode, too. Of course, that's pure speculation.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Oro has Mokuton

kabuto has anti mokuton poison

Kabuto having Orochimaru's DNA does not make him gain all the ability of Orochimaru

yes it does. apart from SM what has hashirama been doing that madara cant. kabuto saw oro as just one of the many people he harvested power from and his intent vs uchiha bros was to demonstrate that

Kabuto can't turn his body into liquid the same degree Suigetsu does,

he was able to liquefy his whole insides, and his outer body is immune to wounds due to regeneration

since Orochimaru knows everything about Kabuto, he knows Muki Tensei,

he absorbed his intel, but we dont know to what extent or what his plan is to counter MT

first Kabuto gotta give the life to the natural around him, then to control it he has to touch it

swords have to touch the person they stab, no?

Making Orochimaru not able to see or hear, what is that gonna do? plus Orochimaru knows the technique, Rashomon then going underground, countering it easily.

paralyse him? oro may know about it but counter it, he cannot do. and only kabuot can go underground

when did Kabuto suck the chakra out of someone?

when he captured anko

Kabuto has never regenerated through shedding skin, in fact he only shed his skin before to make his true form coming out

when he cut itachi in half, he came out of his own shedded body IIRC

he only heals his wound from Karin's ability, he

no his original ability was replacing dead cells which healed him from narutos rasengan

he can be killed that's why he had to use the fact Itachi and Sasuke won't kill him to his advantage, a fatal wound would kill him,

he can be killed by uchiha bros jutsus. oro has nothing to put him down with or even touch him due to the speed of sage mode

even Suigetsu suggested that Orochimaru was going to kill him.

pretty easy when kabuto is STANDING THERE PARALYSED

 

[pateuvasiliu]

kabuto has anti mokuton poison

His poison worked against Yamato, who is a poor copy.

Orochimaru's body right now is 100% Senju DNA. That -SHOULD- put his Mokuton somewhere between Hashirama's and Madara's.

The reason he could not use SM before was that his body was too weak. He should have no issues now.

However, this is speculation and we work by feats, so Kabuto wins.

Having a permanent Sage Mode and the ability to dodge fast attacks -and- use sound genjutsu and White Rage, Kabuto -cannot- lose.

The worse Oro can do is 10.000 snakes and Kabuto can either destroy them with White Rage or go liquid form.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

The reason he could not use SM before was that his body was too weak. He should have no issues now.

yeah because we al know zetsus are tough physically...

 

[pateuvasiliu]

yeah because we al know zetsus are tough physically...

Not exactly, but now Oro's body will not decay, not to mention Zetsus are biologically immortal, are they not?

That being said, Oro has no need to make sacrifices anymore, thus his body is perfectly fine.

That, and being made of 100% Hashi DNA helps.