Orochimaru vs Onoki

Brother Numpsay · Apr 1, 2016

Draegod said:
It's funny how the only true ninjutsu Oru showed,ends up being the most annoying jutsu for onoki. Great wind breakthrough disrupts his jinton via clones every single time.lol The Irony

I was thinking a telekinetic sword would be much more annoying to deal with.

Draegod · Apr 1, 2016

Brother Numpsay said:
I was thinking a telekinetic sword would be much more annoying to deal with.

SWORD(S) is what you meant since he can clone the sword and have the sky itself raining swords.

If you think about it, with Great break through constantly being used, Jinton is completely out of the equation since the sky would be a constant hurricane atmosphere. This goes for Deidara as well.

Glo Senpai · Apr 1, 2016

Orochimaru making the sky rain swords? Creating hurricane atmosphere?

What the devil is going on in here?

Beans2 · Apr 1, 2016

Draegod said:
SWORD(S) is what you meant since he can clone the sword and have the sky itself raining swords.

If you think about it, with Great break through constantly being used, Jinton is completely out of the equation since the sky would be a constant hurricane atmosphere. This goes for Deidara as well.

Feats of Great Breakthrough's range affecting the entire atmosphere?

Draegod · Apr 1, 2016

Beans2 said:
Feats of Great Breakthrough's range affecting the entire atmosphere?

And when oru used it, he chose to make it a small gust to blow them back and

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Now seeing as it was you who quoted me, I may have to draw pictures to break it down how large them trees are and how huge that forrest is. So I expect a Stupid response that makes you look foolish as usual.

BLAZE · Apr 1, 2016

What did it destroy again becoz i don't see any fallen trees :|

Draegod · Apr 1, 2016

After Dark said:
What did it destroy again becoz i don't see any fallen trees :|

Then there is this guy. Who is most definitely worse then you Beans. Good lord you're a saint in comparison.

The Trees are clearly being pulled up by the root and a clear passage was made from the attack. Not to mention it's in the jutsu description. It's a reason Beans didnt waste time looking stupid on that question. Why would Kishi waste a panel on fallen trees when he only has 17 pages to draw his characters and stick to the point?

BLAZE · Apr 1, 2016

Draegod said:
Then there is this guy. Who is most definitely worse then you Beans. Good lord you're a saint in comparison.

Insults the best thing you can come with when you don't know what is larger microscopic or nanoscopic

The Trees are clearly being pulled up by the root and a clear passage was made from the attack.

And did u read the manga that almost all trees in forest are looked like that before Oro even used his jutsu that[

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Even the tree behind Oro in your scan has uneven structure like the trees being blown off.So you better post a scan of trees being destroyed completely

Not to mention it's in the jutsu description.

And temari blows away universe huh

Yes the short Mid range Jutsu blew away Team 7 in front of him [

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It's a reason Beans didnt waste time looking stupid on that question.

and why are you bringing in Beans when i asked the Q

why should i care if he does asks the Q or not Why would Kishi waste a panel on fallen trees when he only has 17 pages to draw his characters and stick to the point?

Ah so there is no panel.Thanks

Draegod · Apr 1, 2016

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Insults the best thing you can come with when you don't know what is larger microscopic or nanoscopic

And did u read the manga that almost all trees in forest are looked likethat before Oro even used his jutsuthat[
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Even the trr behind Oro in your scan has uneven structure like the trees being blown off.So you better post a scan of trees being destroyed completely
And temari blows away universe huh

Yes the short Mid range Jutsu blew away Team 7 in front of him [
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and why are you bring in Beans when i asked the Q

Ah so there is no panel.Thanks

Lmao You literally know nothing about Nano sizes if you think blood cells are smaller. lmao

Tree is right in front plain as day being blown with them yet he denies the manga time and time again. **Sigh**

Naruto was blown completely away from them all to the point He didnt even hear the fight going on with Oru and sasuke. lmmfao Damn youre slow as fuq!

Kishi literally states what happened in great detail that he blew them away, denies Kishi's statement when he is the aurthor. Then goes to compares kishi saying how strong temaries Winds are in general (retard to take it literaly. lmao), to kishi stating what happened in the exact scene and fight. Big difference kiddo. Damn you're slow as fuq! And even then ignores the manga panels showing a weak version of th ejutsu's range! You're defeinetly slower then Beans.

Do me a favor and stop quoting me. You're too slow to grasp the manga clearly! And please stop changing your name every day, do you not have a life? Are you that bored? I be forgetting youre th eretard that needs to get blocked since you change your name more than anyone on the site.

BLAZE · Apr 1, 2016

Draegod said:
Lmao You literally know nothing about Nano sizes if you think blood cells are smaller. lmao

Facepalm.Blood cells are microscopic obviously larger than Nanoscopic bomb

your post though

Draegod said:
lol Sharingan cannot see the chakra network or points ever. Kakashi
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not the damage being done on the Network what so ever. It was after healing Naruto Tsunade noted the affects of the tech explaining what "PROBABLY" happened. She obviously wasn't there, and kakashi had no idea what happened (otherwise he would have said something). The nano bombs weren't even smaller then Blood cells let alone the Ten' points as seen when inside his veins.

And even after derailing the facts of the manga (no Sharingan has ever seen the Chakra points and network), they cannot see chakra build up and only see chakra color to emit a users chakra in their body as a whole to gauge them in general.

Tree is right in front plain as day being blown with them yet he denies the manga time and time again. **Sigh**

Eh no

Naruto was blown completely away from them all to the point He didnt even hear the fight going on with Oru and sasuke. lmmfao Damn youre slow as fuq!

and what does this even
3 Genin shinobi none of them got injured

12 y.o base sakura tanked it

Kishi literally states what happened in great detail that he blew them away, denies Kishi's statement when he is the aurthor.

No he didn't
the last panel before of the page when shows on whom oro was focusing his attack [

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Even in the scan u posted the first panel behind naruto[Oro has not used his jutsu yet] show trees exactly as it is when Team 7 is being attcked few panel later [

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Then goes to compares kishi saying how strong temaries Winds are in general (retard to take it literaly. lmao),

You mean the one enhanced with summon aka her weasel

to kishi stating what happened in the exact scene and fight. Big difference kiddo. Damn you're slow as fuq! And even then ignores the manga panels showing a weak version of th ejutsu's range! You're defeinetly slower then Beans.

So you are self proclaimed Kishinmoto huh

Do me a favor and stop quoting me. You're too slow to grasp the manga clearly! And please stop changing your name every day, do you not have a life? Are you that bored? I be forgetting youre th eretard that needs to get blocked since you change your name more than anyone on the site.

This is the golden part of your post
This has always been the golden part of your posts

Remember when you claimed Killer Bee used Lariat on Sasuke while he was still in Genjutsu despite Killer Bee stating he can't move.Your attitude has not changed even a little bit

Glo Senpai · Apr 1, 2016

Rock clone, jinton, dead snake.

Orochimaru's C-rank wind style is not going to hinder Onoki to the point where he can't fire Jinton. If the wind even reaches him the first time and interrupts him, what is going to do, float in the exact same spot and continue being interrupted? Probably not.

Icelerate · Apr 1, 2016

Draegod said:
Then there is this guy. Who is most definitely worse then you Beans. Good lord you're a saint in comparison.

The Trees are clearly being pulled up by the root and a clear passage was made from the attack. Not to mention it's in the jutsu description. It's a reason Beans didnt waste time looking stupid on that question. Why would Kishi waste a panel on fallen trees when he only has 17 pages to draw his characters and stick to the point?

The jutsu was only powerful enough to knock down a single tree, not multiple as per the databook description. Not sure how it reaches a flying Onoki. Regardless, it is probably much more powerful due to power inflation + the fact Oro was toying around with team 7. However, it's hard to quantify it's range and DC used at its fullest potential. Nevertheless, it's stated to be a medium range ninjutsu unlike jinton which is long ranged so Onoki can stay a safe distance or use a rock clone to keep him safe. Not only does Oro need to cast the hand seals, the attack has to reach Onoki before jinton fails and jinton's prep is faster than the jutsu can travel 10 m +.

Icelerate · Apr 1, 2016

The legend and the kage VS the addict.

Draegod · Apr 1, 2016

Icelerate said:
The jutsu was only powerful enough to knock down a single tree, not multiple as per the databook description. Not sure how it reaches a flying Onoki. Regardless, it is probably much more powerful due to power inflation + the fact Oro was toying around with team 7. However, it's hard to quantify it's range and DC used at its fullest potential. Nevertheless, it's stated to be a medium range ninjutsu unlike jinton which is long ranged so Onoki can stay a safe distance or use a rock clone to keep him safe. Not only does Oro need to cast the hand seals, the attack has to reach Onoki before jinton fails and jinton's prep is faster than the jutsu can travel 10 m +.

The range is huge as per cannon fact the distance naruto was sent flying, the Wind overshadowing the trees, and the fact he can make it small or as big as he like as per cannon and databook. As you stated, he was toying with them. And we both know the amount of chakra he possesess. You also add the fact the jutsu doesn't

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(unless specified), his clones can easily extend there necks from multiple angles to stay in the skiy creating constant gust of wind. Since it is a fact he cannot u

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We have long neck multiple clones in a octigon formation around Onoki. all using the jutsu constant or one after the other so no lag time is made.
We have giant Snake summons to also add hieght to get closer plus long necks.
We have Rashomon to boost him to the

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And ofc we have multiple flying swords that can also extend and disrupt him. He isnt a sensor so a stab to the back would eventually happen when he FOCUS jinton.

Oru has too many options to tell the truth. He has to first prep and charge then fire, that's way too much time for oru to do Multiple jutsu's. Not to mention Jinton from the shy would never hit Oru, ever! Too slow and seen through and dodged multiple ways.

Icelerate · Apr 1, 2016

Draegod said:
The range is huge as per cannon fact the distance naruto was sent flying, the Wind overshadowing the trees, and the fact he can make it small or as big as he like as per cannon and databook. As you stated, he was toying with them. And we both know the amount of chakra he possesess. You also add the fact the jutsu doesn't
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(unless specified), his clones can easily extend there necks from multiple angles to stay in the skiy creating constant gust of wind. Since it is a fact he cannot u
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We have long neck multiple clones in a octigon formation around Onoki. all using the jutsu constant or one after the other so no lag time is made.
We have giant Snake summons to also add hieght to get closer plus long necks.
We have Rashomon to boost him to the
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And ofc we have multiple flying swords that can also extend and disrupt him. He isnt a sensor so a stab to the back would eventually happen when he FOCUS jinton.

Oru has too many options to tell the truth. He has to first prep and charge then fire, that's way too much time for oru to do Multiple jutsu's. Not to mention Jinton from the shy would never hit Oru, ever! Too slow and seen through and dodged multiple ways.

Naruto being sent flying far doesn't mean the range of the tech is that large. Sakura sent a Juubi clone flying far but that does not mean the range of her punch is far. Its scale varying is due to the difference in skill but Oro is no different in that regard except for Zetsu Oro.

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say that the jutsu has hand seals?

Good point about the long necks. The other structures Oro can summon can be rendered useless by Onoki preparing jinton elsewhere, not directly above those structures.

Like I said, Onoki can use rock clones to keep the real Onoki from harms way so a stab to the back isn't likely. Not to mention Muu would have executed jinton if it wasn't for the extend-ability of Naruto's chakra arm. Naruto was relatively close to Mu.

Oro can't outrun jinton but he can go underground, away from Onoki's LoS so I can agree that he can avoid it. Though if Oro gets hit by weighted rock tech, he's going to be finished with jinton.

Draegod · Apr 1, 2016

Icelerate said:
Naruto being sent flying far doesn't mean the range of the tech is that large. Sakura sent a Juubi clone flying far but that does not mean the range of her punch is far. Its scale varying is due to the difference in skill but Oro is no different in that regard except for Zetsu Oro.

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say that the jutsu has hand seals?

Good point about the long necks. The other structures Oro can summon can be rendered useless by Onoki preparing jinton elsewhere, not directly above those structures.

Like I said, Onoki can use rock clones to keep the real Onoki from harms way so a stab to the back isn't likely. Not to mention Muu would have executed jinton if it wasn't for the extend-ability of Naruto's chakra arm. Naruto was relatively close to Mu.

Oro can't outrun jinton but he can go underground, away from Onoki's LoS so I can agree that he can avoid it. Though if Oro gets hit by weighted rock tech, he's going to be finished with jinton.

Wiki is wiki bro. lol No need to continue on that subject when i have manga fact of it not needing handseals.

It is literally wind, winds range is only as strong as the user using it. And I have cannon fact of th erange being huge in teh forrest and cannon fact that naruto had enough wind to keep him travelying far from them. These are not assumptions, they are in the manga. You also add the fact he can increase the gust. And the basic facts about wind in general, he will always be affected unless completely away from the battle field (which is a loss).

Sakura's punch isn't even comparable. Wasted attempt.

Oru also has clones when healthy, let alone Zetsu clones.

Rock clones cannot use Jinton i dont believe due to the amount of chakra. I could be wrong though.

And Oral rebirth allows him to escape weighted rock tech. As well as if Onoki gets close he dies no diff due to the constant ammount of snakes that can pop from Oru at anytime. Let alone the True form swringing out swallowing him (that not even 3 tomoe CM sasuke could predict nor stop).

Is a fan about the size of a basketball can be felt more than 10 meters away... Do I really need to bring the science of wind into this or are we going to use common sense? Are we really questioning the manga picture range in a forrest full of giant trees that can house Bijuu sized beast?

Curse Mark · Apr 1, 2016

Draegod said:
SWORD(S) is what you meant since he can clone the sword and have the sky itself raining swords.

If you think about it, with Great break through constantly being used, Jinton is completely out of the equation since the sky would be a constant hurricane atmosphere. This goes for Deidara as well.

Cylindral jinton would just cut through the wind though.

~Ethereal~ · Apr 1, 2016

I have no idea, if people are underrating or overrating Orochimaru.

Glo Senpai · Apr 1, 2016

Aphelion said:
I have no idea, if people are underrating or overrating Orochimaru.

Combination of both is going on here. Oh and a crap load of fanfic on his jutsu and capabilities.

Zexion~ · Apr 2, 2016

All I see from Oro's fuuton are three gennin with no defense standing upright within it..... Give Fuuton feats a bad name

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