Orochimaru vs Minato
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Money on Oro. Dude was pretty good, and we still don't know everything up his sleeve. Snakes have pretty good reaction times too.....
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Certain i poured cold water on this vs thread about a week ago. Anyway there is a copy and paste;
First of all allow me to say, nobody knows who would win, we are just speculating going by abilities shown. Ill take away edo tensei from oro because that isnt fair. First of all the edo's oro has been sealed therefore there isnt any point including this but also the only sealing jutsu minato has shown us that is applicable is the reaper technique which takes the user's life as well therefore in that case he doesnt stand a chance of winning since he would have to use this technique.
Ill also exclude summonings because people have to take into consideration chakra levels in vs threads. No ninja can keep on summonings large animals to fight for them, because with the summoning technique depending on the size and quantity of your summonigs that alone can take up more than half of your chakra. Only people like nagato, kisame, naruto can spam summonings and not worry about chakra depletion. Another reason not to add summonings is that they kinda cacnel each other out. Oro not only has manda, be also has other large snake summonigs but also the hydra technique which minato can counter by summonings gamabunta but also the other massive frogs and ma and pa (that takes time though). Basically its purely minato vs oro.
Anyway both are close to mid range fighters. Neither are long range, although oro does indeed have some long range attacks, he is however a close to mid range fighter. If both were to fight it would be most likely be in open space since thats where most fights take place, therefore minato would most likely have the edge, therefore lets say he spams ftg kunai's;
Oro is a wind release user and with this could blow either the kunai's in mind air (handspeed of 5/5) or when the kunai's do land he uses this to blow them away;
To make this fair lets says minato uses his ftg kunai's in this fight the same way he doesnt against tobi therefore lets say he does this instead;
Meaning he doest spam the kunai's and instead uses them one at a time. Oro has several counters for this. First of being, many hidden snake hands
With this he can not only block the ftg kunai which is heading his way, he can also use it at an offence if minato decides to come in like what he did to tobi. This mode is very effective because if those snakes were to either block or swallow the kunai, minato wouldnt be able to evade such a technique because his kunai has been swallowed. If he does have a good reflex in base he can immediately stop and retreat because if he does head on this technique would greatly damage him.
Anyway to stop this stragegy is to use this;
This technique should block the ftg kunai, meaning if the kunai doesnt reach oro, minato doesnt either and at full speed in base, minato would have to have a pretty quick reflex otherwise he would run into this technique. No different to the hidden snake hands.
Basically ftg would be very hard here. Now im sure alot of people would say minato doesnt need ftg kunai's to tag a location and i agree therefore lets say, if his ftg kunai's are countered he resorts to tagging the location instead. Again oro has counters for this. He has the ability to merge with the environment (Hiru Banshล: Bลka no Jutsu);
Kanji ่ญไธ่ฑกใป้ฒ็ซใฎ่ก
Rลmaji Hiru Banshล: Bลka no Jutsu
Literal English Leech Ten Thousand Things: Attack Prevention Technique
English TV Assimilation Jutsu
Anime Naruto Episode #30
Appears in Anime and Manga
Class Supplementary
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Orochimaru
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With the jutsu above that ive mentioned, where oro can merge with the environment, if minato was to tag the environment oro can evade ftg because whilst he can move in with this technique in any direction, ftg tags are stationary, oro isnt.
Basically oro does have counters for ftg therefore this might come down to foot speed. Minato is shunshin is in deed superior, but oro is also a shunshin user;
Either oro's shunshin or the slightering snake modehttp://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Slithering_Snake_Mode increases his speed and agility ;
There is a couple of problems with using minato's shunshin though against oro atleast. Ftg is teleportation, we know that. Shunshin is high foot speed movement. Now what happens if ftg has been countered like how i have above, and minato was to use his shunshin which is foot movement?. What if oro was to use this technique to basically swarm the environment with formation of 10,000 snakes
Foot movement, shunshin would be very hard when you have to step on 10000 snakes whom are poisonous, with this technique oro has the environment advantage because those snakes wouldnt attack him and would attack minato only.
If minato is handicapped due to the environment, oro who also uses shunshin no jutsu can keep up with him. Lets not forget that oro also has Kanashibari no Jutsu ,
Its a temporary paralysis. As we say oro was playing with sasuke and sakura, when both were paralysed. When oro threw his kunai's did were they eventually ablo to regain their senses and evade it. If oro was serious when sasuke nd sakura were still under this paralysis and couldnt move, he couldve done whatever he wanted.
Now if he was to use this on minato and due the effects of this technique's minato is temporarily paralysed but also is at the disadvantage due to the environmenet covered with snakes;
Those 10000 snakes would bite and poison a paralysed minato and with that oro wins. If minato is stationary, oro can use
If paralysed, the hidden shadow snake hands would be applicable
Minato's rasengan and kunai isnt doing anything against somebody who can use this technique
For the sake of this argument lets say minato does indeed mark him with ftg, not only will rasengan or kunai not kill him as ive explained earlier, oro is one the people that can remove the ftg tag from his body with the body shedding technique
Ive no intention on replying to any quote, im merely giving my analysis n what weve seen so far and going byt that, oro wins with mid to high difficulty[/hide]
First of all allow me to say, nobody knows who would win, we are just speculating going by abilities shown. Ill take away edo tensei from oro because that isnt fair. First of all the edo's oro has been sealed therefore there isnt any point including this but also the only sealing jutsu minato has shown us that is applicable is the reaper technique which takes the user's life as well therefore in that case he doesnt stand a chance of winning since he would have to use this technique.
Ill also exclude summonings because people have to take into consideration chakra levels in vs threads. No ninja can keep on summonings large animals to fight for them, because with the summoning technique depending on the size and quantity of your summonigs that alone can take up more than half of your chakra. Only people like nagato, kisame, naruto can spam summonings and not worry about chakra depletion. Another reason not to add summonings is that they kinda cacnel each other out. Oro not only has manda, be also has other large snake summonigs but also the hydra technique which minato can counter by summonings gamabunta but also the other massive frogs and ma and pa (that takes time though). Basically its purely minato vs oro.
Anyway both are close to mid range fighters. Neither are long range, although oro does indeed have some long range attacks, he is however a close to mid range fighter. If both were to fight it would be most likely be in open space since thats where most fights take place, therefore minato would most likely have the edge, therefore lets say he spams ftg kunai's;
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Oro is a wind release user and with this could blow either the kunai's in mind air (handspeed of 5/5) or when the kunai's do land he uses this to blow them away;
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To make this fair lets says minato uses his ftg kunai's in this fight the same way he doesnt against tobi therefore lets say he does this instead;
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Meaning he doest spam the kunai's and instead uses them one at a time. Oro has several counters for this. First of being, many hidden snake hands
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With this he can not only block the ftg kunai which is heading his way, he can also use it at an offence if minato decides to come in like what he did to tobi. This mode is very effective because if those snakes were to either block or swallow the kunai, minato wouldnt be able to evade such a technique because his kunai has been swallowed. If he does have a good reflex in base he can immediately stop and retreat because if he does head on this technique would greatly damage him.
Anyway to stop this stragegy is to use this;
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This technique should block the ftg kunai, meaning if the kunai doesnt reach oro, minato doesnt either and at full speed in base, minato would have to have a pretty quick reflex otherwise he would run into this technique. No different to the hidden snake hands.
Basically ftg would be very hard here. Now im sure alot of people would say minato doesnt need ftg kunai's to tag a location and i agree therefore lets say, if his ftg kunai's are countered he resorts to tagging the location instead. Again oro has counters for this. He has the ability to merge with the environment (Hiru Banshล: Bลka no Jutsu);
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Kanji ่ญไธ่ฑกใป้ฒ็ซใฎ่ก
Rลmaji Hiru Banshล: Bลka no Jutsu
Literal English Leech Ten Thousand Things: Attack Prevention Technique
English TV Assimilation Jutsu
Debut
Manga Chapter #50Anime Naruto Episode #30
Appears in Anime and Manga
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Classification NinjutsuClass Supplementary
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Orochimaru
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With the jutsu above that ive mentioned, where oro can merge with the environment, if minato was to tag the environment oro can evade ftg because whilst he can move in with this technique in any direction, ftg tags are stationary, oro isnt.
Basically oro does have counters for ftg therefore this might come down to foot speed. Minato is shunshin is in deed superior, but oro is also a shunshin user;
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Either oro's shunshin or the slightering snake modehttp://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Slithering_Snake_Mode increases his speed and agility ;
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There is a couple of problems with using minato's shunshin though against oro atleast. Ftg is teleportation, we know that. Shunshin is high foot speed movement. Now what happens if ftg has been countered like how i have above, and minato was to use his shunshin which is foot movement?. What if oro was to use this technique to basically swarm the environment with formation of 10,000 snakes
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Foot movement, shunshin would be very hard when you have to step on 10000 snakes whom are poisonous, with this technique oro has the environment advantage because those snakes wouldnt attack him and would attack minato only.
If minato is handicapped due to the environment, oro who also uses shunshin no jutsu can keep up with him. Lets not forget that oro also has Kanashibari no Jutsu ,
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Its a temporary paralysis. As we say oro was playing with sasuke and sakura, when both were paralysed. When oro threw his kunai's did were they eventually ablo to regain their senses and evade it. If oro was serious when sasuke nd sakura were still under this paralysis and couldnt move, he couldve done whatever he wanted.
Now if he was to use this on minato and due the effects of this technique's minato is temporarily paralysed but also is at the disadvantage due to the environmenet covered with snakes;
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Those 10000 snakes would bite and poison a paralysed minato and with that oro wins. If minato is stationary, oro can use
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If paralysed, the hidden shadow snake hands would be applicable
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Minato's rasengan and kunai isnt doing anything against somebody who can use this technique
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For the sake of this argument lets say minato does indeed mark him with ftg, not only will rasengan or kunai not kill him as ive explained earlier, oro is one the people that can remove the ftg tag from his body with the body shedding technique
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Ive no intention on replying to any quote, im merely giving my analysis n what weve seen so far and going byt that, oro wins with mid to high difficulty[/hide]
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Orochimaru has a chance. He could actually automatically win this if he is able to pull of 2 moves: Edo tensei and Leach all creations.
He uses edo tensei. Then he must quickly use Leach all creations. In case you dont know what this does, it allows orochimaru to merge with anything. He could merge with the earth and go in hiding. This can be used to avoid minato's contract seal which.
If he is successful, its an automatic win.
Otherwise, its going to be tough because of minato's speed. Orochimaru would have to focus on creating an opening. If minato tries doing what he did against tobi - ftg + rasengan, this could create an opening as the rasengan wouldn't really harm orochimaru and while usuing the jutsu, minato is kinda vulnerable.
He uses edo tensei. Then he must quickly use Leach all creations. In case you dont know what this does, it allows orochimaru to merge with anything. He could merge with the earth and go in hiding. This can be used to avoid minato's contract seal which.
If he is successful, its an automatic win.
Otherwise, its going to be tough because of minato's speed. Orochimaru would have to focus on creating an opening. If minato tries doing what he did against tobi - ftg + rasengan, this could create an opening as the rasengan wouldn't really harm orochimaru and while usuing the jutsu, minato is kinda vulnerable.
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Minato wins with high difficulty. Orochimaru does not have any attacks that Minato can't avoid with FTG.
The real question is whether Minato has an attack that can finish Orochimaro.
Minato can use Ma and Pa to immobilize Orochimaru and prep for whatever he needs to finish him off
The real question is whether Minato has an attack that can finish Orochimaro.
Minato can use Ma and Pa to immobilize Orochimaru and prep for whatever he needs to finish him off
the body shedding substitution jutsu takes alot of chakra... and granted orochimaru is a beast and has a lot of chakra... but... i think eventually orochimaru would tire himself out and lose due to the number of times he would have to resort to regenerating and substitute out of harms way
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Minato can summon ma and pa?!?!? I dont remember that...mmm...
And correct me if im wrong (im not sure), minato has to mark someone before he can use the flying thunder god to teleport to thier location right? Orochimaru can use oral rebirth - that should get rid of the mark...i think.
Also, orochimaru does have some other strange jutsu he can use like the 5 symbol seal. It could screw with minato...
