Orochimaru vs Jiraiya

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Location: Konoha
Restrictions: Edo Tensei, DSM
Conditions: Oro does not have his Zetsu body

Scenario 1: No summons, SM or ET.
Scenario 2: Jiraiya starts in SM, Orochichimaru gets Part I Edos. Summons allowed for both sides.
 

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Jiraiya will be winning the second match up. Mid difficulty, that much shouldn't even be up for debate.

The first one can be won, but I feel as if both combatants are equals here. Orochimaru, if capable of landing the Five pronged seal on Jiraiya then the match is practically his. Jiraiya might not have the chakra control afterwards to be able to reverse or break the seal. And, with it on his chakra control will be hindered.

I don't find it unreasonable to see such an outcome happening either.
 

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Orochimaru wins this. Already debated it with T Bogard.
 

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Orochimaru wins scenario 1
Jiraiya wins scenario 2
 

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Jiraiya wins both scenarios high difficulty.

If it matters, current Orochimaru wins them both handily though.
 

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Orochimaru win hands down.

Hiruzen said Orochimaru had the power to take down a small nation.
(Jiraiya didn't)

Jiraiya tried to stop Orochimaru from defecting.
(Failed because he is too weak)

Hiruzen said Orochimaru is the strongest.

Orochimaru with Edo tensei is just a neg diff.
 

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Oro wins scenario 1 because Jman doesn't have SM.

Jiraiya wins scenario 2 because of frog genjutsu.
 

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Orochimaru win hands down.

Hiruzen said Orochimaru had the power to take down a small nation.
(Jiraiya didn't)

Jiraiya tried to stop Orochimaru from defecting.
(Failed because he is too weak)

Hiruzen said Orochimaru is the strongest.

Orochimaru with Edo tensei is just a neg diff.

I agree with this.
 

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Not sure about S1 but Jman wins S2.
 

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Orochimaru wins both scenarios.
 

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Scenario 1: Oro wins. He could allow himself to be harmed by Jiraiya's hair jutsus in his true form in order to paralyse and finish him off with Kusanagi. That or the Eight Branches Jutsu would overwhelm Jiraiya.

Scenario 2: I think think it can go either way. It depends on whether Oro fights seriously from the beggining or not. If he does he has high chances of winning.
 

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Debate already won in the tournament. Conclusion was Jiraya wins both scenarios U_U
 

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Orochimaru wins 1st one Jiraya wins second one with SM
 

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Jiraiya wins both scenarios for Orochimaru hasn't shown any feats backing up his hype..
 

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oro wins scenario 1

J man takes the 2nd one because of his genjutsu, SM speed, summons, etc.
 
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