Orochimaru vs Hidan and Kakuzu

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I doubt it can work on Kakuzu
Gian could possibly one shot Manda if aimed towards his head.

@Kages, Kusanagi ain't gonna do jack. Enma said it would hurt, but there was no visible damage done to him in staff form.

Good point about 5 Pronged Seal, totally forgot about that detail.
However I'm skeptical about Gian's potential to kill Manda.

 

[Kages]

Forgot to mention Manda II solos.

 

[HiddenSound]

Forgot to mention Manda II solos.

Orochimaru doesn't have Manda II...

 

[LuckyMan]

Orochimaru doesn't have Manda II...

Manda II resides at Ryuchi Cave so he should have access to it.

 

[Kages]

Orochimaru doesn't have Manda II...

According to you.... I'm not debating whether he has it or not, lmao. It's been debated many times however I do believe that he has it. It doesn't matter though, because Orochimaru would win either way no diff.

Orochimaru is on a different level than these fodders. :lol

 

[HiddenSound]

Manda II resides at Ryuchi Cave so he should have access to it.

Manda II was created by Kabuto, it's purely a genetic experiment and nothing else. There's no reason for it to reside at Ryuchi Cave when it's not a naturally born snake of Ryuchi Cave. It is not part of the summoning system of Ryuchi Cave. It belongs, solely, to Kabuto.

According to you.... I'm not debating whether he has it or not, lmao. It's been debated many times however I do believe that he has it. It doesn't matter though, because Orochimaru would win either way no diff.

Orochimaru is on a different level than these fodders. :lol

The burden of proof...

 

[Lord Tywin]

Good point about 5 Pronged Seal, totally forgot about that detail.
However I'm skeptical about Gian's potential to kill Manda.

Given how Gian, divided into 2 branches, stalemated raikiri on their own, I'd say a single branch of Gian would easily rip through Manda's scale, as it should be raikiri x2.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

The match ends the moment one drop of blood from Orochimaru, or his all-star summoning is drawn.

Manga intel leaves Oro losing, since Hidan being the newest member before he left, leaves a huge advantage.

- Shadow Clones gives more options of blood, since they duplicate the orignal. So cursing either w/ minor wound (not enough damage for clone to disappear) will work.

- Hidan, and a Wind Mask along side of him, catches Orochimaru in their combo, which needed Sharingan to anticipate. Even if you dont think he dies, he will draw blood most definitely.

- Raiton wounds Manda (if Head shot becomes unsuccessful), and Hidan takes it, so he gets cursed. Heck I would say even Hidan weapon can draw tiny bit of blood from attempting to strike at him.

 

[Kages]

Manda II was created by Kabuto, it's purely a genetic experiment and nothing else. There's no reason for it to reside at Ryuchi Cave when it's not a naturally born snake of Ryuchi Cave. It is not part of the summoning system of Ryuchi Cave. It belongs, solely, to Kabuto.


The burden of proof...

As I stated, it doesn't really matter which Manda it is because they have the same abilities and would each give Kakuzu difficulty, lmao. Even if he somehow ruins Manda with domu or gian, Manda can easily shed its skin.

 

[Lord Tywin]

The match ends the moment one drop of blood from Orochimaru, or his all-star summoning is drawn.

Manga intel leaves Oro losing, since Hidan being the newest member before he left, leaves a huge advantage.

- Shadow Clones gives more options of blood, since they duplicate the orignal. So cursing either w/ minor wound (not enough damage for clone to disappear) will work.

- Hidan, and a Wind Mask along side of him, catches Orochimaru in their combo, which needed Sharingan to anticipate. Even if you dont think he dies, he will draw blood most definitely.

- Raiton wounds Manda (if Head shot becomes unsuccessful), and Hidan takes it, so he gets cursed. Heck I would say even Hidan weapon can draw tiny bit of blood from scratching it.

lmao drawing blood from animals won't work since snake anatomy=/=human anatomy.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

lmao drawing blood from animals won't work since snake anatomy=/=human anatomy.

It never stated it works only on Human anatomy. If anything both have the same location of a "head", so targeting the head will work

 

[Lord Tywin]

It never stated it works only on Human anatomy. If anything both have the same location of a "head", so targeting the head will work

What's in the head? A brain, which its location isn't always straight forward in an animal.

 

[Curse Mark]

Manda II resides at Ryuchi Cave so he should have access to it.

How do you know that?

 

[Kages]

The match ends the moment one drop of blood from Orochimaru, or his all-star summoning is drawn.

Manga intel leaves Oro losing, since Hidan being the newest member before he left, leaves a huge advantage.

- Shadow Clones gives more options of blood, since they duplicate the orignal. So cursing either w/ minor wound (not enough damage for clone to disappear) will work.

- Hidan, and a Wind Mask along side of him, catches Orochimaru in their combo, which needed Sharingan to anticipate. Even if you dont think he dies, he will draw blood most definitely.

- Raiton wounds Manda (if Head shot becomes unsuccessful), and Hidan takes it, so he gets cursed. Heck I would say even Hidan weapon can draw tiny bit of blood from attempting to strike at him.

- Where did you get that Hidan is the newest member and Orochimaru has no knowledge on him? The game?

- He would use one clone to fight Hidan, and one to fight Kakuzu. He would be fighting one.

- Fuuton can be blocked with Orochimaru's own Wind Release: Great Breakthrough which could knock down several trees down and a large part of a forest. No, Hidan won't draw blood. If he cuts Orochimaru in half, then Orochimaru will come back by the snakes gathering. It doesn't show blood coming out of Oro.

- Manda has Skin Shedding for any elemental attack. Also using Manda's blood for Hidan's curse won't work since it's a different species. If he stabs himself in the stomach, where would Manda be hurt? It's a snake, lmao. :lol

 

[ToshiZO]

-Hidan takes care of Manda if he manages to draw blood from it (or maybe via Gian).
-If Orochimaru doesn't know of Hidan's ability he has close to no chances of winning this, the fight would be over before it even starts.

Also using Manda's blood for Hidan's curse won't work since it's a different species. If he stabs himself in the stomach, where would Manda be hurt? It's a snake, lmao.

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[Brother Numpsay]

What's in the head? A brain, which its location isn't always straight forward in an animal.

Ok well that can be for a different discussion. We know this animal does.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

- Where did you get that Hidan is the newest member and Orochimaru has no knowledge on him? The game?

Nope manga[

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- He would use one clone to fight Hidan, and one to fight Kakuzu. He would be fighting one.

Nope Orochimaru has to separated them to another location for that to happen, just like Team 10 had to do, other wise its useless. Even then, gaining blood from a clone would curse all of orochimaru.

- Fuuton can be blocked with Orochimaru's own Wind Release: Great Breakthrough which could knock down several trees down and a large part of a forest. No, Hidan won't draw blood. If he cuts Orochimaru in half, then Orochimaru will come back by the snakes gathering. It doesn't show blood coming out of Oro.

Kakuzu's wind release is highest level of element prowess it can reach, Kakashi's statement. Orochimaru jutsu has no feats capable of over powering it. Yet alone react to it in time with Hidan CQC pressure. I never said anything of cutting Orochimaru in half.

- Manda has Skin Shedding for any elemental attack. Also using Manda's blood for Hidan's curse won't work since it's a different species. If he stabs himself in the stomach, where would Manda be hurt? It's a snake, lmao. :lol

DB and Manga states its work on a "target" which means its not specified to work a specific species. Aiming at the head is my claim, not worried about other parts.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Ok well that can be for a different discussion. We know this animal does.

I know he has a brain in his head, but where would Hidan's ritual affect if he stabs himself in the head? It could affect any part of Manda's head, even a location without the brain.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I know he has a brain in his head, but where would Hidan's ritual affect if he stabs himself in the head? It could affect any part of Manda's head, even a location without the brain.

Lets think about this. Hidan was design to take out Jinjiruki's/Buijuu's. Both dont carry the same shape/size as Hidan (jinkiruki). Nor does Buijuu's inside them, anatomy to Hidan's. Doesn't mean we cant reason that where he wants to effect, lets say the "head", wouldnt be any different to where the head of the target is.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Lets think about this. Hidan was design to take out Jinjiruki's/Buijuu's. Both dont carry the same shape/size as Hidan (jinkiruki). Nor does Buijuu's inside them, anatomy to Hidan's. Doesn't mean we cant reason that where he wants to effect, lets say the "head", wouldnt be any different to where the head of the target is.

assumptions, really. Hidan would be perfect since he's probably the only guy in the manga that can outlast a non perfect jin. But my point still stands.