Looks like someone is just fussy that he was countered. If you forfeit then by all means I accept. I didn't insult you that much at all, I only doubted that you went to school. I already said that it was 750 feet. I was just giving examples of the different lengths.
What did you counter? I was never debating with you in the first place. Its a different guy. The entrance you made in the topic shows me that you didn't even read the thread therefore I wont bother debating with you, which I never was to begin with. There is no forfeit because I never acknowledged you as an opponent. You're trying to clear up that shitty entrance you made about me not knowing basic math to make me look dumb which all it did was backfired and showed your own stupidity. Don't expect anymore replies from me. I'm waiting for my opponent to post.
What did you counter? I was never debating with you in the first place. Its a different guy. The entrance you made in the topic shows me that you didn't even read the thread therefore I wont bother debating with you, which I never was to begin with. There is no forfeit because I never acknowledged you as an opponent. You're trying to clear up that shitty entrance you made about me not knowing basic math to make me look dumb which all it did was backfired and showed your own stupidity. Don't expect anymore replies from me. I'm waiting for my opponent to post.
Insulting me does not make your argument stronger. It just makes you look less bebacuse you think insulting someone would give your argument cool points..... and it does not. You obviously did't read this entire thread because I mentioned on the first page that the distance was 750 feet. You came in ignorant as hell and just ended up making yourself look stupid while trying to make me look stupid.
Speaking of ignorant, show me ANY proof that kusinagi extends that far out. You wont even find that shit on Narutopedia. If your goign to make bold claims like that have evidence instead of backing it up with waffle. Furthermore how is this helping Oro in this fight?
This does not explain how Gaara defeats Orochimaru.
Okay So Gaara flies up in the air? Manda? Aoda? Twin Snakes? 3 Ribbon Snakes? 8 Branches? He can easily match Gaara at that height. The key thing about this battle is that Gaara possesses nothing to defeat Orochimaru, literally. He phases through all of his sand structures (desert coffin, imperial funeral etc) by using Hiding Like a Mole, or Attack Prevention. They are the perfect escape techniques for an opponent like Gaara, especially the former. If this becomes a battle of attrition, Orochimaru certainly wins which is what I see happening because Gaara has nothing in his arsenal to defeat him.
P.S. whats all this talk about Kusanagi only extending 100 meters... lol WTF it extended well beyond that and the only reason it stop extending because Kyuubi Naruto had hit a wall. Like seriously anyone who looks at that chapter/episode and sees the distance he pushed Naruto would know very well its over 250 meters. Its so obvious its snot something you have to think or calculate. You just see and you know it.
First of all, when has Orochimaru shown the ability to summon Aoda? Second of all, none of the above can fly high enough to hit the heights at which Gaara can fly. Manda is handled by Sand Arm.
I don't think you're understanding, Orochimaru isn't hiding in the earth when Gaara can use that same earth to immobilized and crush him as he did versus Kimmimaro. You know damn well Orochimaru isn't sifting through this earth. Once Gaara catches him in his sand, he controls him. At that point Orochimaru is crushed repeatedly if necessary.
Speaking of ignorant, show me ANY proof that kusinagi extends that far out. You wont even find that shit on Narutopedia. If your goign to make bold claims like that have evidence instead of backing it up with waffle. Furthermore how is this helping Oro in this fight?
This does not explain how Gaara defeats Orochimaru.
Okay So Gaara flies up in the air? Manda? Aoda? Twin Snakes? 3 Ribbon Snakes? 8 Branches? He can easily match Gaara at that height. The key thing about this battle is that Gaara possesses nothing to defeat Orochimaru, literally. He phases through all of his sand structures (desert coffin, imperial funeral etc) by using Hiding Like a Mole, or Attack Prevention. They are the perfect escape techniques for an opponent like Gaara, especially the former. If this becomes a battle of attrition, Orochimaru certainly wins which is what I see happening because Gaara has nothing in his arsenal to defeat him.
P.S. whats all this talk about Kusanagi only extending 100 meters... lol WTF it extended well beyond that and the only reason it stop extending because Kyuubi Naruto had hit a wall. Like seriously anyone who looks at that chapter/episode and sees the distance he pushed Naruto would know very well its over 250 meters. Its so obvious its snot something you have to think or calculate. You just see and you know it.
Bro ur a good troll. Orochimaru will be buried alive by Gaara. His snakes will die as well. Gaara can get up in the air quite fast, and he can use sand tsunami too surround him. If Orochimaru tries to go underground he will actually be helping gaara in this fight
Orochimaru isn't fast enough nor he has long range jutsu to beat flying opponents like Gaara or Onoki
Bro ur a good troll. Orochimaru will be buried alive by Gaara. His snakes will die as well. Gaara can get up in the air quite fast, and he can use sand tsunami too surround him. If Orochimaru tries to go underground he will actually be helping gaara in this fight
Orochimaru isn't fast enough nor he has long range jutsu to beat flying opponents like Gaara or Onoki
I don't think he would have molecules left to regenerate. Onoki's power was severely restricted in Naruto, otherwise he would become like goku and could use long range jinton like kamehameha to solo narutoverse
Oro already facerolled a Kazekage. no diff. it's amazing how one has to restrict orochimaru's most popular technique when putting him 1v1 vs anyone...smh because no one would survive against oro full power.
He has a blood contract with all the snakes at Ryuchi cave. He can summon whatever snake he pleases. Just because he never summoned him does not mean he cant. Minato never summoned Gamahiro but Naruto did. Does not mean Minato cant summon Gamahiro at all too? Sasuke never summoned the Twin Snakes but Orochmaru did. Same situation same outcome. The contract is with all animals that reside at a given location not just 1 of them.
So you calculated the distance that Gaara can go into the skies with his sand too? Whats stopping him from going into the stratosphere then? My point is that you are assuming Gaara can go to a height so great that not even Manda, or the rest of Oros snakes will be able to reach him. There is a limit to how long he can stay in the air because he is burning chakra while doing so. How will he burn chakra staying out of range from Manda, while the 3 Ribbon Snakes, Aoda, and the Twin snakes all attack him from different fronts? Its illogical to think that he will deal with something as colossal as Manda which ,would require anyone's up-most attention, while also dealing with Aoda, the 3 Ribbon Snakes, and the Twin Snakes all at the same time. He grabs the snakes to crush them and they shed their skin and make their way to attack him. The summons alone are too much for him to deal. He was already in a desert versus the Edo Kages, with an infinite amount of sand at his disposal. He is in a plain field here and would require more chakra than he has to try and turn the minerals in the ground into the amount of sand he had access to in the desert, which does requires a large amount of chakra to preform and wield if its not the and already infused in his gourd so I seriously don't see him using all that sand for the whole battle to fight off large snakes and what not.
I don't think you're understanding, Orochimaru isn't hiding in the earth when Gaara can use that same earth to immobilized and crush him as he did versus Kimmimaro. You know damn well Orochimaru isn't sifting through this earth. Once Gaara catches him in his sand, he controls him. At that point Orochimaru is crushed repeatedly if necessary.
First Gaara did not use the earth to immobilize Kimi. He turned the minerals in earth into sand and used that sand to immobilize him, not the actual earth itself. This is where I think you don't understand. If I go underground, Gaara will not know I am there until he infuses his chakra into the ground turning the minerals into sand where he can properly locate me. If I have a clone feint on the surface fighting how would he even know the real me is underground? Get it? He could not even tell that the Madara he sealed was a clone feint or that Muu had split his body up. Both of these events happened in the same desert he was in but with all that sand at his disposal he still did not notice they pulled a simple feint trick over him. Why cant Oro do the same, especially if he has large snakes out for distractions too? If Gaara catches him he uses Attack Prevention to phase out of it. This will become a battle of attrition in which Oro emerges the victor.
So you calculated the distance that Gaara can go into the skies with his sand too? Whats stopping him from going into the stratosphere then? My point is that you are assuming Gaara can go to a height so great that not even Manda, or the rest of Oros snakes will be able to reach him. There is a limit to how long he can stay in the air because he is burning chakra while doing so. How will he burn chakra staying out of range from Manda, while the 3 Ribbon Snakes, Aoda, and the Twin snakes all attack him from different fronts? Its illogical to think that he will deal with something as colossal as Manda which ,would require anyone's up-most attention, while also dealing with Aoda, the 3 Ribbon Snakes, and the Twin Snakes all at the same time. He grabs the snakes to crush them and they shed their skin and make their way to attack him. The summons alone are too much for him to deal. He was already in a desert versus the Edo Kages, with an infinite amount of sand at his disposal. He is in a plain field here and would require more chakra than he has to try and turn the minerals in the ground into the amount of sand he had access to in the desert, which does requires a large amount of chakra to preform and wield if its not the and already infused in his gourd so I seriously don't see him using all that sand for the whole battle to fight off large snakes and what not.
He and Deidara easily dwarfed Suna, which had contained a beast as colossal as Shukaku. Manda isn't even a slight factor in this battle, as are the rest of Orochimaru's snakes. Non-Jinchuuriki Gaara was providing cushions of Sand for the Five Kage and then going all out versus Madara. It takes him a small amount of chakra to fly at this point.
Sigh. I hate having to repeat myself. It takes Gaara
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to create Sand from the Ground. None whatsoever, it doesn't matter how much sand. He had called in an entire tsunami versus Kimmimaro while trying to suppress Shukaku.At this point when both are actively cooperating, his reserves and them emptying out aren't even the smallest worry in his head. In this battle, he won't even waste his time on the snakes, and instead go straight for Orochimaru himself.
First Gaara did not use the earth to immobilize Kimi. He turned the minerals in earth into sand and used that sand to immobilize him, not the actual earth itself. This is where I think you don't understand. If I go underground, Gaara will not know I am there until he infuses his chakra into the ground turning the minerals into sand where he can properly locate me. If I have a clone feint on the surface fighting how would he even know the real me is underground? Get it? He could not even tell that the Madara he sealed was a clone feint or that Muu had split his body up. Both of these events happened in the same desert he was in but with all that sand at his disposal he still did not notice they pulled a simple feint trick over him. Why cant Oro do the same, especially if he has large snakes out for distractions too? If Gaara catches him he uses Attack Prevention to phase out of it. This will become a battle of attrition in which Oro emerges the victor.
The whole strategy you have bolded would maybe be worth a small amount in a strategic sense if Gaara never did this from the start of his battles. He always converts the ground to Sand, whether looking for clones or not. Madara and Muu were completely different examples under completely different circumstances. He can't use 'Attack Prevention' when Gaara is literally crushing him.
I don't know if you believe Orochimaru can just 'slip out', but that is entirely not true and I believe you're confusing the method with Kisame's Subterranean Voyage, a technique that allows him to morph the ground around him into a water-like state. Hiding like a Mole and Attack Prevention are merely ways to travel through the already existing ground, which won't work if Gaara is controlling the sand.
Honestly? Once Gaara finds Orochimaru underground he simply crushes him there, doesn't even waste time in the sand coffin.