Orochimaru vs. Edo Hiruzen

[Ghost in the Shell]

Location: Buddha vs. Edo Hiruzen
Starting distance: mid range
Intel: Manga
Restrictions: Edo Tensei, Hiruzen is not under Orochimaru's control
Conditions: Orochimaru has his Zetsu body and has the means to seal Hiruzen

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Interesting match. With Zetsu's ability exploit, I give this to Orochimaru. So much potential

 

[Beans2]

Orochimaru wins.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Interesting match. With Zetsu's ability exploit, I give this to Orochimaru. So much potential

What if I gave Oro his part 1 body? Obviously with all applicable part 2 feats like shadow clones, the temporary curse binding seal, etc.

 

[LuckyMan]

Hiruzen defeats him.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

What if I gave Oro his part 1 body? Obviously with all applicable part 2 feats like shadow clones, the temporary curse binding seal, etc.

Hiruzen high diff

 

[DMT]

Hiruzen wins

 

[Lariatoo]

Hiruzen definitly wins. Even if by outlasting.

 

[Hattake Ryuzaki]

Hiruzen

 

[Nattana]

Orochimaru wins.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Hiruzen defeats him.

Hiruzen wins

Hiruzen definitly wins. Even if by outlasting.

With Zetsu boost+ability?

 

[LuckyMan]

With Zetsu boost+ability?

What perks do Zetsu give him?

 

[DMT]

With Zetsu boost+ability?

Even with Zetsu boost+ability, Edo Hiruzen still have better feats overall , of course he would win with nothing less than High diff , + I would like to see your argument

 

[Brother Numpsay]

What perks do Zetsu give him?

Orochimaru body stealing ability was built upon, not only stealing the body but possessing every ability it came with.

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Even with Zetsu boost+ability, Edo Hiruzen still have better feats overall , of course he would win with nothing less than High diff , + I would like to see your argument

They were already a matched battle, but Zetsu versatility makes him broken. Ill muster something up.

 

[Nattana]

What perks do Zetsu give him?

1. Gigantic chakra boost.
2. Zetsu plant-like body properties.
3. Regeneration.
4. Hashirama DNA enhances Oro's own techniques.
5. Abilities usable by Zetsu (Mokuton, Mayfly, Sensing, Spores, Parasite Clones etc.)

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I would like to see your argument

Dont mind if I get points on why Hiruzen takes this first?

 

[Lariatoo]

With Zetsu boost+ability?

Yeah... Hiruzen AoE its just too overwhelming. And with Edo Tensei's infinite chakra... Its pretty much GG

 

[RicardoA]

Orochimaru has better chances i think.

 

[DMT]

Dont mind if I get points on why Hiruzen takes this first?

Nothing in orochimaru's arsenal can take down EDO Hiruzen

 

[EliteKakashi]

Issue you're facing here is Hiruzen can just create wave of clones after wave of clones that can fire off different elemental attacks, and his clones have shown to have durability beyond that of a regular shadow clone. With every technique in Konoha at his disposal(obviously barring KKG techniques), granting him the ability to use techniques like Tobirama's Suidanha:

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And his ability to use a technique that appears to be Gian, or is at least similar to it:

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These techniques and Enma allow him to deal with any snake summons that Orochimaru throws at him. Large scale katons deal with 10,000 snakes. Enma grants him the ability to fight Orochimaru in CQC as well. Suidanha/Enma breaks mokuton.

I'm not even going to touch Hydra's abilities because of that other thread, other than to say Hiruzen and his clones elemental blasts should take care of it.

Not really sure Orochimaru has enough to deal with an unlimited chakra 5 element user.