Katon isn't going to put Orochimaru down, and that's the most damaging ability Madara has w/o MS. Orochimaru wins.
Orochimaru summons Manda and it's done
Orochimaru summons Manda and it's done
Madara hasn't show the amount of proficiency in genjutsu as Itachi has. Orochimaru does the same thing he did with Sasuke.Orochimaru skin is not fire resistant hell even Manda would have gotten burnt up by Bunta's katon which is far smaller than Madara's Orochimaru gets his ass deep fried or genjutsu he wins more times then not so i does not matter. How will Orochimaru put down Madara? because he comfortably outlast Orochimaru aswell
Genjutsu,Katon, Gunbai guts Manda aswell
Orochimaru skin is not fire resistant hell even Manda would have gotten burnt up by Bunta's katon which is far smaller than Madara's Orochimaru gets his ass deep fried or genjutsu he wins more times then not so i does not matter. How will Orochimaru put down Madara? because he comfortably outlast Orochimaru aswell
Oral Rebirth, not to mention once he uses Eight Branches he'd shrug off Katon considering Eight Branches>Manda. Genjutsu happens if he decides to get close, but if he fights long range and large scale, (Hydra it won't happen.
Madara hasn't show the amount of proficiency in genjutsu as Itachi has. Orochimaru does the same thing he did with Sasuke.
Oral rebirth is useless he's only jumping out into more flames, Hydra gets burnt to him being above Manda is only supported by DB Manda is much larger faster and has better durability feats hell Hydra is the size of a v4 susanoo Madara clones using shunshin and gunbai blitz its heads off.
Also how does any of this help him kill Madara?
Want it already established that Orochimaru is nothing in front of the sharingan?
1. Oral Rebirth AFTER the jutsu has resolved means that Orochimaru pretty much recovers from the technique.
It being supported by only DB doesn't matter, because that is still evidence. Unless you think Katon can one shot Manda, then something stronger than it isn't going to get one shotted.
Hydra is much larger than V4 Susanoo.
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And it's even outright stated to be larger and stronger than Manda. Since when was Gunbai strong enough or even large enough to cut off the Hydra's heads? :lol If he tries this, he only ends up getting swatted by all 9 heads, or he tries to cut into it, either fails to penetrate or he fails to cut all the way through, gets stuck, and then gets killed.
Hydra beats Madara. All he can do is run from it.
Katon isn't going to put Orochimaru down, and that's the most damaging ability Madara has w/o MS. Orochimaru wins.