Orochimaru underrated

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

He can leave at any time he wants, he is merely interested in what Sasuke will do. But if you're the type to get interest mixed up with servitude, more power to you.

Monitor his progress, and achieve what? Sasuke is now leaps and bounds beyond him in strength, so taking his body isn't part of the equation. What does he hope to achieve by this? Sasuke's giving out the orders now, lets be honest.

You make it sound like he's Sasuke's puppet, who came to who for help? He's merely observing his progress, what you're typing sounds like straight up dislike other than pure facts hinting to him being a failure in the slightest. Plus, don't you think it's kind of ironic for you, a Sasori fan to be mentioning anything about a failure...? I think we should hit up Sakura and Chiyo to ask.

Yes, Sasuke revived him for help. But who's following who around? Who's giving the orders? Orochimaru is a failure. Even a fan would admit that.

- Tried destroying the leaf. Failed out of his own arrogance.
- Tried taking 11 year old Itachi's body -- failed.
- Tried taking Sasuke's body, and failed. He trained him to the point he surpassed Orochimaru's sick self. Seriously?
- Tried making a comeback, it was all part of Itachi's plan, and he sealed him again.

What exactly did Orochimaru succeed in, exactly?

Mentioning Sasori, when he's not the topic of discussion? Signs of frustration, tbh. Relax there buddy.

 

[cactusj]

A tactical and strategic genius who manipulates those around him to achieve his goals.

Immortality goal achieved.

A master of many techniques - his life's work is to master as many as possible - yes, we haven't seen him demonstrate large numbers of techniques, but what he has shown so far is impressive.

Took on the 4 tailed Naruto - with a body that was rejecting him and with no hands. Showed no real fear - was happy to toy with Naruto for a while.

I consider Edo Tensei to be part of his arsenal - no different to summons used by others.

Sasuke has defended Oro more than once after Sasuke absorbed him - indicating that taking on Oro in his ill state was not representative of what Oro can do.

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[novacore]

Monitor his progress, and achieve what? Sasuke is now leaps and bounds beyond him in strength, so taking his body isn't part of the equation. What does he hope to achieve by this? Sasuke's giving out the orders now, lets be honest.



Yes, Sasuke revived him for help. But who's following who around? Who's giving the orders? Orochimaru is a failure. Even a fan would admit that.

- Tried destroying the leaf. Failed out of his own arrogance.
- Tried taking 11 year old Itachi's body -- failed.
- Tried taking Sasuke's body, and failed. He trained him to the point he surpassed Orochimaru's sick self. Seriously?
- Tried making a comeback, it was all part of Itachi's plan, and he sealed him again.

What exactly did Orochimaru succeed in, exactly?

Mentioning Sasori, when he's not the topic of discussion? Signs of frustration, tbh. Relax there buddy.

Sasuke is dead tho.. and no frustration, just lawl @ you for being Derp.

 

[Xēnovia.]

Awesome theme..wished crap studio played it during his comeback.​

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[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Sasuke is dead tho.. and no frustration, just lawl @ you for being Derp.

Yeah, I'm sure Sasuke will stay dead throughout the remainder of the manga. I'm positive in fact.

 

[HiddenSound]

Monitor his progress, and achieve what? Sasuke is now leaps and bounds beyond him in strength, so taking his body isn't part of the equation. What does he hope to achieve by this? Sasuke's giving out the orders now, lets be

He doesn't want to achieve anything with this, dude. It's very obvious that he's watching out of interest in Sasuke himself.
Before, he said to Hiruzen that an unmoving windmill is boring. So he wanted to be the wind that makes the windmill turn.
He realizes how far Sasuke has come in both strength and perseverance since the last time he saw him. He's always had an interest in Sasuke's power, but now wants to see what Sasuke himself will do.
Yes, Sasuke is giving him orders, telling him to things, so what? Again, he's not forced to do anything.

 

[novacore]

Yeah, I'm sure Sasuke will stay dead throughout the remainder of the manga. I'm positive in fact.

but he is dead currently. oro is not. manga fact oro > sasuke.

 

[Joker]

Monitor his progress, and achieve what? Sasuke is now leaps and bounds beyond him in strength, so taking his body isn't part of the equation. What does he hope to achieve by this? Sasuke's giving out the orders now, lets be honest.



Yes, Sasuke revived him for help. But who's following who around? Who's giving the orders? Orochimaru is a failure. Even a fan would admit that.

- Tried destroying the leaf. Failed out of his own arrogance.
- Tried taking 11 year old Itachi's body -- failed.
- Tried taking Sasuke's body, and failed. He trained him to the point he surpassed Orochimaru's sick self. Seriously?
- Tried making a comeback, it was all part of Itachi's plan, and he sealed him again.

What exactly did Orochimaru succeed in, exactly?

Mentioning Sasori, when he's not the topic of discussion? Signs of frustration, tbh. Relax there buddy.

Who's observing, like he said himself, "I'm interested in a new wind," I don't get what's so hard to understand. I'll admit when I see he's a true failure.
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Manipulated Sunagukure
Killed Kazekage
Killed Hokage
Infiltrated Leaf
Achieved a form of immortality
Escaped the Totsuka blade
Cut open the reaper (something no one else could do) while performing Edo-Tensei like it's nothin'
Got his arms back
Branded Sasuke
Experimented on countless individuals
Came up with forbidden techniques
Infiltraded Akatsuki
Managed to elude Akatsuki for ten years
Managed to elude Konoha
Managed to elude everyone
Highest bounty in the bingo book
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Just a small list
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Plus, I mentioned Sasori to point out the irony, i'm not frustrated whatsoever.

 

[TobiramaWaterStyle]

That White Snake poison solos all especially Sasuke had he not wanted that body.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

He doesn't want to achieve anything with this, dude. It's very obvious that he's watching out of interest in Sasuke himself.
Before, he said to Hiruzen that an unmoving windmill is boring. So he wanted to be the wind that makes the windmill turn.
He realizes how far Sasuke has come in both strength and perseverance since the last time he saw him. He's always had an interest in Sasuke's power, but now wants to see what Sasuke himself will do.
Yes, Sasuke is giving him orders, telling him to things, so what? Again, he's not forced to do anything.

So this is what Orochimaru's worth now? His convictions went from achieving a perfect body and destroying Konoha to now following Sasuke around for mere interest? That's quite pathetic, considering how ambitious Orochimau once was. His motives for tagging along have justification, I'm sure, but not even you can deny that he's practically become a member of bloody team Taka. What Sasuke says, Sasuke gets.

No, you're not forced. But if you follow that friend everywhere he goes and do everything he says in the process, it makes you look like a complete kiss up and a loser.

 

[HiddenSound]

So this is what Orochimaru's worth now? His convictions went from achieving a perfect body and destroying Konoha to now following Sasuke around for mere interest? That's quite pathetic, considering how ambitious Orochimau once was. His motives for tagging along have justification, I'm sure, but not even you can deny that he's practically become a member of bloody team Taka. What Sasuke says, Sasuke gets.

No, you're not forced. But if you follow that friend everywhere he goes and do everything he says in the process, it makes you look like a complete kiss up and a loser.

Tell me about it. And blame Masashi for rushing this manga.

"Follow everywhere he goes and does everything he he says" You act like this has been going on for years. It's been, like, 3 hours or so.

 

[omarsen]

It's funny how that's the only Jutsu in all of the 3rd Hokage's arsenal that could possibly harm Orochimatu. Keep banking on that suicide move.

I think we discussed this in another thread, Sealing Orochimaru is almost impossible, since his sannin chakra still lives among fodders. Unless you clear entire narutoverse with people who got the curse mark, and then finally seal him.

Beside that, normal sealing techniques wouldn't have worked against Edo-Hashirama since his lifeforce is enormous and could possibly break out.

 

[Joker]

So this is what Orochimaru's worth now? His convictions went from achieving a perfect body and destroying Konoha to now following Sasuke around for mere interest? That's quite pathetic, considering how ambitious Orochimau once was. His motives for tagging along have justification, I'm sure, but not even you can deny that he's practically become a member of bloody team Taka. What Sasuke says, Sasuke gets.

No, you're not forced. But if you follow that friend everywhere he goes and do everything he says in the process, it makes you look like a complete kiss up and a loser.

Now I see what you're saying, he has lost that special substance he once had.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Who's observing, like he said himself, "I'm interested in a new wind," I don't get what's so hard to understand. I'll admit when I see he's a true failure.
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Manipulated Sunagukure (to help destroy the leaf, and failed)
Killed Kazekage (To manipulate the sand and help destroy the leaf, but failed. Look at the bigger picture here)
Killed Hokage (But failed in his ultimate goal, which is to learn every jutsu there is. He also failed in destroying Konoha, once again. Orochimaru won the battle, Hiruzen won the war)
Infiltrated Leaf (Smh, and failed)
Achieved a form of immortality (But was bested numerous times in the manga -- only alive currently because Sasuke needed him)
Escaped the Totsuka blade (Because of Sasuke's desires)
Cut open the reaper (something no one else could do) while performing Edo-Tensei like it's nothin' (How is this an achievement?)
Got his arms back (Irrelevant)
Branded Sasuke (Who bested him in the long run)
Experimented on countless individuals (Irrelevant)
Came up with forbidden techniques (And spams snakes, whoopdy doo)
Infiltraded Akatsuki (Only to get run out by 11 yo Itachi)
Managed to elude Akatsuki for ten years (I wasn't aware they were chasing him. To my knowledge, it was only Sasori. Anywho, that's also irrelevant.)
Managed to elude Konoha (Irrelevant)
Managed to elude everyone (Irrelevant)
Highest bounty in the bingo book (Irrelevant)
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Just a small list
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Plus, I mentioned Sasori to point out the irony, i'm not frustrated whatsoever.

/10char../

 

[Prince Charles]

Honestly his overrated and underrated at times, Kishi nerfed him so much when it comes to his hype, all that damn studying and OP jutsu he should know yet all the niga shows is some damn hand snakes like what? kishi did him wrong, I honestly fail how to see in part 1 kakashi was scared of orochimaru, when you look at kakashi as a whole he is more impressive than orochimaru. That death stare orochimaru did against kakashi, I thought kakashi would had laughed that sh1t off.

The only good thing orochimaru has going for him is his body shedding and experience in battle and his snake summons and i guess new zetsu abilities.. I cant comprehend how kishi can hype this guy up so much but in reality his just another hiruzen, dont even get me on the damn kusanagi sword fken enma make that sht look like a tootsie roll.

Stop with the fken snakes and show me the hype!

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Tell me about it. And blame Masashi for rushing this manga.

"Follow everywhere he goes and does everything he he says" You act like this has been going on for years. It's been, like, 3 hours or so.

And how long do you believe Orochimaru will stay by his side for? Considering the manga is practically gonna end after this war, I don't see Orochimaru suddenly turning another corner.

 

[Joker]

/10char../

You post most of them are irrelevant, yet you asked me what he succeeded in...? He succeeded in eluding Akatsuki, so how is that irrelevant..?
Reaper's an achievement because no one else could do that, due to the reapers properties Orochimaru is the only person to be able to do that and use ET simultaneously.
He failed to infiltrate the leaf? Infiltrate means to enter, did he not enter the leaf..? Too lazy to respond to the others. v_v

 

[HiddenSound]

And how long do you believe Orochimaru will stay by his side for? Considering the manga is practically gonna end after this war, I don't see Orochimaru suddenly turning another corner.

I don't know. Let's find out.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

You post most of them are irrelevant, yet you asked me what he succeeded in...? He succeeded in eluding Akatsuki, so how is that irrelevant..?
Reaper's an achievement because no one else could do that, due to the reapers properties Orochimaru is the only person to be able to do that and use ET simultaneously.
He failed to infiltrate the leaf? Infiltrate means to enter, did he not enter the leaf..? Too lazy to respond to the others. v_v

Because those are hardly achievements. Eluding the Akatsuki, but were they chasing him? As far as I'm concerned, Sasori was the only member of the Akatsuki who wanted to recapture Orochimaru. The rest?..

I'll give you the ET and reaper.

My bad, I meant failed in destroying the leaf. Yes, he infiltrated Konoha, but for what? To destroy it. He didn't.

 

[KisuneUchiha]

I mean come on Orochimaru basically laughed Death in the face countless times, even going so far as to cut Death's stomach open and take people and his arms from it LMFAO and peeps say he can get one shotted by some other people