Orochimaru reaction feats and scaling

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Orochimaru often gets downplayed for having apparently bad reaction feats, but I disagree, so I have pooled together some of his feats and have scaled him off others through direct feats


So let's begin!

Orochimaru stares down kn4 while being completely unaware of whats going on as shown here

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Despite having no clue about what's going on, and assuming Naruto paralyzed himself, Orochimaru reacts immediately to a surprise TBB that he didn't know was coming

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He also outpaces the travel speed of the TBB and summons the rashomon, Despite all three rashomon summoning after one another, all three raised before TBB could make the halfway mark as shown here. This means Orochimaru reacted to the surprise TBB nearly instantly and summoned just as quickly. The TBB moves quick enough that it's raw speed creates streaks in the air behind it like a literal missile and destroys the ground under it from its sheer speed. It is so fast that it creates an objective mach cone around the blast. A match cone is formed only when a certain speed is met. Neither futon: Rasen shuriken nor a susanoo arrow created a mach cone.

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This is also an Orochimaru who is so sick he collapses on the ground after this from his illness

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Orochimaru in his lair was completely on his deathbed just after this, his illness rendering his body unable to stand

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Despite being in this pitiful state, when Sasuke sneak attacks him, Orochimaru reacts to Chidori eiso despite not even knowing who it was or that he was about to be attacked

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What's very important to note is that Sasuke caught Oro off guard and Oro still reacted. This is important because Sasuke did this same thing to someone else and they failed to react to Chidori Eiso despite knowing they were in a fight.

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Despite seeing Sasuke jump and also literally staring at the chidori eiso approaching him, Deidara failed to react to the attack and only registered it after it already hit him. He also failed to react to it previously as well, and only surviving because it stopped advancing towards him

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If Sasuke's attack had a longer reach, Deidara genuinely would have been hit without a reaction coming from him. That is twice Deidara fails to react in time to chidori eiso, while an Orochimaru on his deathbed reacts to a surprise attack from it.

This is important to note as Deidara can react to Gaara's sand easily

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Deidara is able to react to a surprise attack from Gaara, though both times Sasuke uses Chidori eiso he fails to react properly. Meanwhile deathbed stage 4 cancer patient Orochimaru reacts to a surprise attack to chidori eiso.

Gaara's sand is extremely fast as well, being able to block enton and block A4

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Deathbed Orochimaru has already shown the ability to react to things Deidara could not, and by extension he should be able to cleanly react to gaara's sand which is already extremely quick. Note A4 needed V2 to dodge enton, whilst Gaara's sand blocked it casually.



Orochimaru also showed good reactions against Hiruzen.

Oro and Hiruzen start from this distance

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Hiruzen then charges at him with full speed and throw shuriken that are faster than his own movement speed. Orochimaru runs towards the attack and blocks it with a jutsu, reacting to and outpacing an attack faster then Hiruzen's travel speed.
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This is important, as it shows Orochimaur has reactions that far outclass Hiruzen's travel speed easily. Hiruzen With his old man speed managed to arrive on the battlefield at the same time as Tobirama and Hashirama. Only Minato outran them, and they comment and praise Minato for being fast enough to outrun Tobirama. Meanwhile, Hiruzen equals his travel speed

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Disregarding this, Orochimaru also saved BM Naruto from the godtree by slicing through all the branches after speeding towards them

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This happened after the godtree snared Naruto

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These same branches could not protect Naruto from Hiruzen slicing them all up around him and couldn't catch him before he could save Naruto.

Note that Hiruzen is reanimated as an old man, so his speed from his do tensei self is the same speed he had when he fought Orochimaru




Orochimaru while sick can also react to kn4 chakra arms as well, and we know biju chakra is an enormous speed amp


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Orochimaru also reacts to CS1 bos Sasuke in cqc distance at a range of less than 2 metres while on his deathbed and pinned to the wall

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Had Orochimaru possess killer intent, this would have been kusunagi and this would have killed Sasuke. Deathbed Oro in cqc can easily react to CS1 Sasuke

Given these feats, we can determine Orochimaru has better reactions to Deidara, and therefore can react to attacks with the same speed as or less speed then Gaara's sand. The Hiruzen feats, and the feat of the TBB supplement this as well as the kn4 chakra arms. Orochimaru doesn't have many reaction feats, so I had to fucking search hard To find anything, but this is what I came up with.

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Orochimaru often gets downplayed for having apparently bad reaction feats, but I disagree, so I have pooled together some of his feats and have scaled him off others through direct feats


So let's begin!

Orochimaru stares down kn4 while being completely unaware of whats going on as shown here

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Despite having no clue about what's going on, and assuming Naruto paralyzed himself, Orochimaru reacts immediately to a surprise TBB that he didn't know was coming

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He also outpaces the travel speed of the TBB and summons the rashomon, Despite all three rashomon summoning after one another, all three raised before TBB could make the halfway mark as shown here. This means Orochimaru reacted to the surprise TBB nearly instantly and summoned just as quickly. The TBB moves quick enough that it's raw speed creates streaks in the air behind it like a literal missile and destroys the ground under it from its sheer speed. It is so fast that it creates an objective mach cone around the blast. A match cone is formed only when a certain speed is met. Neither futon: Rasen shuriken nor a susanoo arrow created a mach cone.

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This is also an Orochimaru who is so sick he collapses on the ground after this from his illness

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Orochimaru in his lair was completely on his deathbed just after this, his illness rendering his body unable to stand

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Despite being in this pitiful state, when Sasuke sneak attacks him, Orochimaru reacts to Chidori eiso despite not even knowing who it was or that he was about to be attacked

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What's very important to note is that Sasuke caught Oro off guard and Oro still reacted. This is important because Sasuke did this same thing to someone else and they failed to react to Chidori Eiso despite knowing they were in a fight.

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Despite seeing Sasuke jump and also literally staring at the chidori eiso approaching him, Deidara failed to react to the attack and only registered it after it already hit him. He also failed to react to it previously as well, and only surviving because it stopped advancing towards him

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If Sasuke's attack had a longer reach, Deidara genuinely would have been hit without a reaction coming from him. That is twice Deidara fails to react in time to chidori eiso, while an Orochimaru on his deathbed reacts to a surprise attack from it.

This is important to note as Deidara can react to Gaara's sand easily

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Deidara is able to react to a surprise attack from Gaara, though both times Sasuke uses Chidori eiso he fails to react properly. Meanwhile deathbed stage 4 cancer patient Orochimaru reacts to a surprise attack to chidori eiso.

Gaara's sand is extremely fast as well, being able to block enton and block A4

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Deathbed Orochimaru has already shown the ability to react to things Deidara could not, and by extension he should be able to cleanly react to gaara's sand which is already extremely quick. Note A4 needed V2 to dodge enton, whilst Gaara's sand blocked it casually.



Orochimaru also showed good reactions against Hiruzen.

Oro and Hiruzen start from this distance

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Hiruzen then charges at him with full speed and throw shuriken that are faster than his own movement speed. Orochimaru runs towards the attack and blocks it with a jutsu, reacting to and outpacing an attack faster then Hiruzen's travel speed.
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This is important, as it shows Orochimaur has reactions that far outclass Hiruzen's travel speed easily. Hiruzen With his old man speed managed to arrive on the battlefield at the same time as Tobirama and Hashirama. Only Minato outran them, and they comment and praise Minato for being fast enough to outrun Tobirama. Meanwhile, Hiruzen equals his travel speed

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Disregarding this, Orochimaru also saved BM Naruto from the godtree by slicing through all the branches after speeding towards them

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This happened after the godtree snared Naruto

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These same branches could not protect Naruto from Hiruzen slicing them all up around him and couldn't catch him before he could save Naruto.

Note that Hiruzen is reanimated as an old man, so his speed from his do tensei self is the same speed he had when he fought Orochimaru




Orochimaru while sick can also react to kn4 chakra arms as well, and we know biju chakra is an enormous speed amp


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Orochimaru also reacts to CS1 bos Sasuke in cqc distance at a range of less than 2 metres while on his deathbed and pinned to the wall

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Had Orochimaru possess killer intent, this would have been kusunagi and this would have killed Sasuke. Deathbed Oro in cqc can easily react to CS1 Sasuke

Given these feats, we can determine Orochimaru has better reactions to Deidara, and therefore can react to attacks with the same speed as or less speed then Gaara's sand. The Hiruzen feats, and the feat of the TBB supplement this as well as the kn4 chakra arms. Orochimaru doesn't have many reaction feats, so I had to fucking search hard To find anything, but this is what I came up with.

Cheers!
Although i have a few nits to pick, i love the details given here

However, before going into that, who on earth doesn't acknowledge the speed of Orochimaru? Or any of his scaled qualities?

I think its more a case of people simply pointing out that he does not need to be fast when he has his practically immortal body that can take almost any attack. And then having an ultimate form - His Octophalic Serpent Form - that uses N.E. which itself provides a massive stats boost.

Perhaps some mistakes made during that process make it seem like people dont respect his scale-able qualities.
 

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However, before going into that, who on earth doesn't acknowledge the speed of Orochimaru? Or any of his scaled qualities?
You’d be surprised. People on other sites like Reddit heavily downplay Orochimaru’s reactions and Orochimaru in general. It’s common for people to think Orochimaru is much weaker then people like Kakazu and Deidara who imo are not on the same level as Orochimaru and I hope this reaction thread helps with showing that.
 

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You’d be surprised. People on other sites like Reddit heavily downplay Orochimaru’s reactions and Orochimaru in general. It’s common for people to think Orochimaru is much weaker then people like Kakazu and Deidara who imo are not on the same level as Orochimaru and I hope this reaction thread helps with showing that.
Interesting

I mean, you just so happened to pick two who i think can sneak a win against him, but little else. They're a level below him if not two.
 

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How could they sneak a win?
Remember Underworld Path vs Konohamaru?

Key word: SNEAK

As long as an applicable method of victory exists, a win can be snuck. In this case, Deidara and Kakuzu don't just possess applicable tools, they possess effective tools.

Deidara can use his exploding clones to feint Orochimaru into a corner and then use C4 clone in it.

Kakuzu can take advantage of his body to get close and allow his Fire Heart to incinerate him. The thing released a flame so hot it crisped dead trees almost instantly. It didn't push or crush them, it purely burned them up. So if it lands on Orochimaru, i see no reason he survives. (Flesh burns faster than wood)
 
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