King Of Kings
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everyone is talkinog about how hiruzen vs oro but what about the other points? orochimaru has kinda failed at everything
hiruzen was 60+ years old and yet he still oro from destroying the village and oro is still suffering from rds
lets see orochimaru vs jirya ... jirya lost and couldnt bring him back to the vilage, orochimaru vs anko anko couldnt stop him eithet, hurizen vs orochimaru hiruzen is dead orochimaru still alive thats at least 3 matches that orochimaru didnt loose.
hiruzen was 60+ years old and yet he still oro from destroying the village and oro is still suffering from rds
Oro vs Jiraiya: Jiraiya wasn't trying to kill him, but I'll give you that.
Vs Anko: Anko is weak.
Vs Hiruzen: Yes he won, but that's not much of a victory. He failed the mission, lost his arms, and Hiruzen was old.
I agree that he's really strong, but his history is awful.
I was never talking about their strengths. Also, Minato lost to Kurama.
Minato hasn't shown many big signs of intelligence. He didn't figure out Obito's ability like Kakashi did, he only beat Obito out of desperation by *tricking* him. Creating Rasengan isn't nothing special. The best intelligence feat Minato has is how he seperated the Kyuubi's contract from Obito.
Never was it stated that Minato created Shiki Fujin. The fact that you just made that up means you are just fanboying the most overestimated character right now.
He has been trolled a lot honestly. Every fight he has he gets destroyed. Only fight where he was strong was against Hiruzen and if only he was cautious he would have walked out unharmed. He is not weak though at all he's actually one of the strongest.
Orochimaru is pretty strong there is no doubting that but he seems to have a habit of just surviving his fights he does lack that definitive victory element