Orochimaru fears Hiruzen!! Manga proof!!!

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What!!!! How come we ignored this!

Hiruzen, even before reach his prime, was already strong! Stronger than Senju Tobirama CONFIRMED!

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And then we have Prime Hiruzen here:
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And what Orochimaru did?

Orochimaru shakes!
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Oro could bring Prime Hiruzen back!! But he choose to not!!
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We had Madara in his prime as edo tensei with rinnegan!!! There was no reason why Oro couldn't bring back Primera Hiruzen!!
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Ok, there was one reason: fear! Respect for Prime Hiruzen!

Or maybe Rikudou Sennin can't be revived via Edo Tenseio!!
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I actually had a theory about this. I think you can bring people back at the same stage they are when the blood sample is taken from the body... Sadly this theory failed, since Madara had rinnegan.
 
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Re: Orochimaru fears hiruzen!! Manga proof!!!

Ah thanks for clearing this up, it was always in my head
 

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Great read. Kishi knew if he brought back prime hiruzen the manga wouldn't last more than a few more chapters.
 

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Kishi should have revived him in his prime,that would be so interesting
 

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He didn't revive him in that state because he was just looking for answers for sasuke, the only one who broke the edo was the first because he was on a different level than those 3.
 

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No i think kishi just brought the hokage back in the forms that we would recognize
 

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Isn't edo tensei Hiruzen prime Hiruzen? He has unlimited chakra and stamina, that's like the same thing no?
 

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Great work conradoserpa, this day you chose to believe in the hype!


#Hiruzen 5
 

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Isn't edo tensei Hiruzen prime Hiruzen? He has unlimited chakra and stamina, that's like the same thing no?

I don't think so. Why there was no old Madara? We had Madara at his prime.


Plus there may be jutsu that requires a high chakra pool, something that can't be achieved by an old Hiruzen.

Just think about shadow clones. He can't make as many as in his prime, since his chakra pool is smaller.
 

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So Oro was afraid of reviving Prime Hiruzen but not afraid of reviving Hashirama, Tobirama and Minato along with old Hiruzen?

Please...

What hagormo wrote makes more sense.
 

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100% legit thread. You used manga facts to back up your thread too. Nice job.
 

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Edo Tensei only brings you back in the state you died in. Which is why Nagato was brought back anorexic and Hiruzen old.

Madara only came back young because Kabuto modified his body. Orochimaru didn't possess Hiruzen's dead body.
 

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Edo Tensei only brings you back in the state you died in. Which is why Nagato was brought back anorexic and Hiruzen old.

Madara only came back young because Kabuto modified his body. Orochimaru didn't possess Hiruzen's dead body.

This is not true.

Hashirama body wasn't there with Orochimaru. Yet, Hashirama was back at his prime. No disease.
 

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This is not true.

Hashirama body wasn't there with Orochimaru. Yet, Hashirama was back at his prime. No disease.

That's because Hashirama died young. Hence why Tobirama became hokage.

Also Tobirama died young as we learn from Hiruzen's flashback.
 

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That's because Hashirama died young. Hence why Tobirama became hokage.

Also Tobirama died young as we learn from Hiruzen's flashback.

Hashirama wasn't that young, since he was there to teach Tsunade gambling.
 

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Hashirama wasn't that young, since he was there to teach Tsunade gambling.

Well he looks young. Point is he was revived in the state he died in. He didn't die when he was an old geezer like Hiruzen.
 
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