Orochimaru CAN control all his edo (Including Hashirama).

[Nattana]

So. Many people believe Orochimaru doesn't have control over Hashirama (some even think he cannot control Tobirama or Minato as well - LOL). Now it's time to stop it and reveal the truth wankers don't want to accept.

1) Hashirama broke Oro's restraint - fact. But what happens then? Oro decides to strenghten it. He doesn't do that though, because Hashi doesn't have any intent of killing or hurting him.
2) Even if the strenghtened restrain was broken out of as well, nothing stops Oro from resummonning Hashi but this time IN A MINDLESS STATE, the same thing Kabuto did with his Edo and then simply control his body himself, what wouldn't be that hard to do effectively considering Oro's HUGE experience with Hashi's cells and Mokuton.

*) A little bonus. To all the people saying Tobirama or Minato could break the restraint. Bullshti. Tobirama tried breaking out but failed miserably and it was just a normal restraint. There's no way for him to break out of Oro's strenghtened restraing that he intended to use against Hashi.
About Minato - well, that's not even in need of explanation after everything I wrote.

So. Now I hope people will stop underrating Oro's power, at least in terms of Edo Tensei.

 

[Sunagura]

still kabuto edo army>oro edo army

 

[Fodder#4]

I agree with you

 

[scorezor]

manga fact , he can't so stfu.

 

[YellowFang]

Hashi broke the binding of ET...Oro can't make Hashi do as he wants becasue he isn't under his restraint...To finish off Hashi is to cancel ET... but he can't control him...

 

[xcoyote]

Yeah,i agree.

 

[HashiramaDescendant]

Hashirama broke free from the restraint without noticing. If he would've planned on breaking the restraint, no amount of Hashirama cells could stop Hashirama himself... Because he's Hashirama and those are his cells used to strengthen the restraint. The others would've been still controlled by Oro, but then again, Hashirama could've beat his ass and freed the others.

 

[Retsu]

This is false, Hashirama broke the restraint and orochimaru can't do anything about it.

 

[-immortal-]

i agree with this

 

[chopstickchakra]

still kabuto edo army>oro edo army

Wrong. Kabuto's edo army IS Orochimaru's edo army. Kabuto got all his dna samples from Orochimaru's labs. On top of that as long as Orochimaru is alive Kabuto doesn't have the ability to perform Edo Tensei on the scale that he did during the war. He could only control that many because he had Orochimaru's chakra stored inside him.

 

[Nattana]

Hashirama broke free from the restraint without noticing. If he would've planned on breaking the restraint, no amount of Hashirama cells could stop Hashirama himself... Because he's Hashirama and those are his cells used to strengthen the restraint. The others would've been still controlled by Oro, but then again, Hashirama could've beat his ass and freed the others.

Not true. Orochimaru noticed it but he was focusing on Tobirama so it wasn't instant. What is more, back then Oro WASN'T restraining them. He said himself that he CAN do that, but back then they were moving and talking on their own.

Breaking out of his restraint doesn't mean the Edo Tensei is canceled. The soul is still bound by the jutsu, it doesn't change anything. The only way to break out the Edo Tensei is to 'force' your soul to stay in this world when it's trying to get back to the Pure world -> and that's when the user undoes the jutsu.

 

[iNotorious]

Hashirama broke free from the restraint without noticing. If he would've planned on breaking the restraint, no amount of Hashirama cells could stop Hashirama himself... Because he's Hashirama and those are his cells used to strengthen the restraint. The others would've been still controlled by Oro, but then again, Hashirama could've beat his ass and freed the others.

I like you

 

[Osagyefo]

I would really like to have a VIZ scanlation of that panel, because if my memory serves my right:
Mangapanda said Hashi broke out of the ET (Like Madara did using the hand seals) and
*********** said Hashi broke Orochimaru's restraint on him (Like Itachi did using KA and the presence of Naruto but through sheer force)

 

[Tobby17]

if Tobirama used handseals, he could

and you can't control Hashirama with HASHIRAMA CELLS

 

[Gerkak]

nope the only thing oro can do is release edo tensei on hashirama. Hashi broke the bindings so oro can't control him.

 

[Xāvî1]

So. Many people believe Orochimaru doesn't have control over Hashirama (some even think he cannot control Tobirama or Minato as well - LOL). Now it's time to stop it and reveal the truth wankers don't want to accept.

1) Hashirama broke Oro's restraint - fact. But what happens then? Oro decides to strenghten it. He doesn't do that though, because Hashi doesn't have any intent of killing or hurting him.
2) Even if the strenghtened restrain was broken out of as well, nothing stops Oro from resummonning Hashi but this time IN A MINDLESS STATE, the same thing Kabuto did with his Edo and then simply control his body himself, what wouldn't be that hard to do effectively considering Oro's HUGE experience with Hashi's cells and Mokuton.

*) A little bonus. To all the people saying Tobirama or Minato could break the restraint. Bullshti. Tobirama tried breaking out but failed miserably and it was just a normal restraint. There's no way for him to break out of Oro's strenghtened restraing that he intended to use against Hashi.
About Minato - well, that's not even in need of explanation after everything I wrote.

So. Now I hope people will stop underrating Oro's power, at least in terms of Edo Tensei.

All of them but not hashirama

 

[Nattana]

If Hashi really broke out of Edo Tensei his soul would've started getting coming back to the pure world. THEN he could RELEASE the it and stay back in this world.
He didn't do any of that. He just surpassed his normal restraint. Oro hadn't even strenghten it.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

1. Orochimaru himself mentioned he couldn't control Hashirama WHILE using his Senju DNA.

2. Tobirams was stopped, but noticeably twitching meaning he has partial resistance. However more importantly is HOW he'd break free.



Recall Madara: he broke free using the HANDSEALS TO EDO TENSEI.

Comparatively, Tobirama and Hashirama completely ignored the orders like Hanzo did when he stabbed himself. This means Tobirama can break the contract because he KNOWS THE HAND SEALS. Honestly if Madara knows this exploit...Tobirama the move's inventor will know it.

Hashirama could be told by his brother, but he has no issue since he cannot be controlled anyhow (same for the Fourth and Third....being told that is).


Minato's only chance is some Uzumaki Fuinjutsu, but otherwise he's also stuck.




Conclusion: Hashirama is.a free bird, Tobirams can use the hand seals, Minato can plausibly use Uzumaki Fuinjutsu

 

[Nattana]

1. Orochimaru himself mentioned he couldn't control Hashirama WHILE using his Senju DNA.

2. Tobirams was stopped, but noticeably twitching meaning he has partial resistance. However more importantly is HOW he'd break free.



Recall Madara: he broke free using the HANDSEALS TO EDO TENSEI.

Comparatively, Tobirama and Hashirama completely ignored the orders like Hanzo did when he stabbed himself. This means Tobirama can break the contract because he KNOWS THE HAND SEALS. Honestly if Madara knows this exploit...Tobirama the move's inventor will know it.

Hashirama could be told by his brother, but he has no issue since he cannot be controlled anyhow (same for the Fourth and Third....being told that is).


Minato's only chance is some Uzumaki Fuinjutsu, but otherwise he's also stuck.




Conclusion: Hashirama is.a free bird, Tobirams can use the hand seals, Minato can plausibly use Uzumaki Fuinjutsu

Non-strenghtened Oro's restrain was enough to stop Tobirama's movement. Making the binding stronger isn't even necessary to stop him from making any seals.

Hashi isn't 'bird free'. He is still bound by the contract. He may still be unsummonned.

And again, Oro can summonn them in the MINDLESS state and control Hashi himself.

 

[S6PoPein]

Hashirama broke free. Orochimaru cant control him. he noticed this himself. we all read it. so what is your problem? Hashirama broke out of orochimaru's friggin control