[Theory] Orochimaru and Obito

[Sunstorm]

First I'll start with a hearty hello since I am a new member here

I've been reading the forums lately and I decided to post what has been in my head for a while now.

I will ask you not to troll/flame/hate me because all that I say is possible no matter what.

I read some threads where people said something about Zetsu being "part" of Tobi in a way that he recovers his body and such. Just like Tobi's fight with Torune and Minato. Well I had something similiar in mind but then again I have something even more intriguing up here.

Orochimaru. Look here:
www_narutobase_net/manga/Naruto/592/13 ( Can't post links yet...soz but replace _ with .)
Sasuke refers to the one who knows everything and in the next page he claims that is Orochimaru. If I am right. Now here comes my theory. What if by some way Orochimaru managed to recover Obito's body and sharingan probly for himself but then ended up Tobi taking that Sharingan?

Since many people said its impossible ( due to Obito's right side being completely smashed ) this is a possibility. And since Sasuke decided to meet Orochimaru during the war. It can be related. I am not quite sure what I think and what I want to say but you should be able to understand it, there is a possibility that Tobi has Obito's eye thanks to Orochimaru and thanks to Suigetsu who found the scroll, Sasuke might find out the trust about Obito.

Also, to those that claim Tobi will be a new character not known by anyone. Now, that is impossible. Tell me 1 succesful movie/anime that had the main villain be just some random guy. That kills the thrill. Even if you were wondering who it was up until the reveal of the main villain's identiy...the thrill after that will still be gone. There will be nothing to think about. And what makes a book, film or anime interesting - the thrill and blind guesses, that is.

It is also possible that Madara created Zetsu ( using that ...idk how to explain it. I just know Tobi has Hashirama's body underneath his lair so its possible its his "legacy" from the real Madara. ) with the whole purpose of finding a worthy candidate of unlocking the Rinnegan and reviving him.

Also one more thing. Many people say Obito can't be Tobi because Timeline doesnt match. But you forget Tobi's voice hasn't changed over 16 years ( from Kyuubi's accident up until current timeline in the manga ) and his jutso is after all Space-Time. There is some chance he couldve teleported back in time ( Ye ye I know, if he could he wouldve done so many things to ease his task with gathering the jinchuurikies, but maybe it has some sort of a requirement or condition or something. )

There you go I hope you like it and have a nice discussion alongside me and my theory.

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

ehh...WELCOME TO THE BASE...watch out for trolls....and threads like these...ugh/

 

[AlexXx]

im also think that he rebuild the crushed eye of obito

 

[Sunstorm]

ehh...WELCOME TO THE BASE...watch out for trolls....and threads like these...ugh/

thanks...but...whats wrong with my thread O_O

im also think that he rebuild the crushed eye of obito

ye I already stated that xD "Orochimaru managed to recover Obito's body and sharingan"

 

[Urda]

Tobi is Sasuke. No question. Jk Tobi has Obito eye. Orochmaru was not shown to be part of his "discovery." Orochimaru also knows much or related intel connected to Tobi because he was gathering information within Akatsuki. Many theorys out there, can't say I agree or disagree. Meh, probably possible, nice theory. +Reps Welcome to NB

 

[realobito1]

Ok?? Welcome

 

[Sabuto Hayashi]

Tobi has more of a chance being Nawaki than Obito. :sy:

 

[Sunstorm]

Tobi is Sasuke. No question. Jk Tobi has Obito eye. Orochmaru was not shown to be part of his "discovery." Orochimaru also knows much or related intel connected to Tobi because he was gathering information within Akatsuki. Many theorys out there, can't say I agree or disagree. Meh, probably possible, nice theory.

Let's pretend you agree xD Jk, well everything is possible I just want to know if other people think this is a viable explanation or not.

Ok?? Welcome

Ye, its ok. and Thanks

 

[Ldude]

Sasuke did not state that Orochimaru was the one who knew everything. He told Orochimaru that he was going to find said person. Also, why couldn't Tobi have found obito's eye instead of Orochimaru? Does it matter who found it?

And Obito's right side was not completely crushed, as Tobi got Obito's eye, which he recently admitted.
And you're basing everything on the fact that his voice didn't change? Did Kakashi's voice change?
Besides, everyone is sick of these Tobi = Obito threads.

 

[Sunstorm]

Tobi has more of a chance being Nawaki than Obito. :sy:

Nawaki didnt have Sharingan. Nawaki was confirmed to have died and he was even buried in Konoha. Tobi was shown to be smashed by those rocks but it is still possible he survived with the help of Zetsu/Orochimaru.

 

[MetalDuck]

Your thread makes no sense... You present an argument, but then admit that you have no clue how to say it, but we should just know? That is just your excuse for making shit up, with absolutely no evidence to back it up.

God, this thread is so shitty, it is unbelievable. And I'm not going to say "welcome" because, quite frankly, there are more than enough 'tards posting horrid shit like this already. We don't need another one.

Please, I am begging you; PLEASE LEAVE!

 

[Sunstorm]

Sasuke did not state that Orochimaru was the one who knew everything. He told Orochimaru that he was going to find said person. Also, why couldn't Tobi have found obito's eye instead of Orochimaru? Does it matter who found it?

And Obito's right side was not completely crushed, as Tobi got Obito's eye, which he recently admitted.
And you're basing everything on the fact that his voice didn't change? Did Kakashi's voice change?
Besides, everyone is sick of these Tobi = Obito threads.

Except all you said about what I said is wrong, you are totally right


I assumed Sasuke referred to Oro but I said I think, not I am sure he did. Yes, Tobi could've found the sharingan himself. And what happens after that? Why do we need Sasuke to revive Oro? Why does Tobi's body turn into white shit when he is attacked? "Does it matter who found it?" - Exactly. But if Tobi found it he couldn't have recovered it like he couldn't recover Shisui's eye ( there is chance Obito's eye wasn't crushed at all. But....that means Obito might have as well survived. ) Basing everything off the fact his voice didn't change? Of all the 15+ sentences in my thread that is just one single thread which servers as a back up for those who exclude the option of Tobi being Obito. I never said he is but I will be happy if he is. It will be heavily related to the story and have some impact on feelings int the manga. Yes, Kakashi's voice changed a lil bit. Though when he was shown in the Kakashi gaiden episode he was already in puberty so his voice could've already mutated however your voice changes as you get older like 50-66.

I ain't sick of Tobi=Obito threads. They are fun to read, problem?

 

[SatchiZurake]

Your thread makes no sense... You present an argument, but then admit that you have no clue how to say it, but we should just know? That is just your excuse for making shit up, with absolutely no evidence to back it up.

God, this thread is so shitty, it is unbelievable. And I'm not going to say "welcome" because, quite frankly, there are more than enough 'tards posting horrid shit like this already. We don't need another one.

Please, I am begging you; PLEASE LEAVE!

You're quite the intolerant one when it comes to far-fetched theories aren't you?

Anyway while it wouldn't surprise me if Orochimaru and Tobi were in cahoots at some point behind the scenes (like Orochimaru seems to be with just about every major villain we've seen so far) I don't think he would have been able to restore a Sharingan, no matter how much of a genius he is.

 

[Sunstorm]

Your thread makes no sense... You present an argument, but then admit that you
have no clue how to say it, but we should just know? That is just your excuse for making shit up, with absolutely no evidence to back it up.

No I presented a theory. With some...foggy arguements. That's what a theory is. If I had strong arguements then it would've been "Truth" or "logic" not a theory. Why would I excuse to YOU ?

God, this thread is so shitty, it is unbelievable. And I'm not going to say "welcome" because, quite frankly, there are more than enough 'tards posting horrid shit like this already. We don't need another one.

And you say I am retarded? oh god

Please, I am begging you; PLEASE LEAVE!

I am sorry, master, I will do as you wish. lol no...just because you asked me to stay so nicely I will stay and ruin your life even more....


Seriously people, I ask you not to hate at me cus this is just a theory and you go ahead and insult me then even put words in my mouth , you call me retarded but in fact you are retarded.

You're quite the intolerant one when it comes to far-fetched theories aren't you?

God thank you, there is someone who understands me.

Anyway while it wouldn't surprise me if Orochimaru and Tobi were in cahoots at some point behind the scenes (like Orochimaru seems to be with just about every major villain we've seen so far) I don't think he would have been able to restore a Sharingan, no matter how much of a genius he is.

Well...you know, anything is possible, I was just looking for something that would explain why would Sasuke revive Orochimaru and what would the person who knows everything actually know and tell us.

 

[Kurama Sage]

Hi. I'm fairly new as well. So, this is not to troll/flame/hate/smash and or dub you any sort of fanboy. However, Orochimaru is NOT the one who knows everything. In Manga chapter 593 pg 1., Suigetsu is referring to 2 people, Oro and 'the one who knows everything'. :sasuke: brushes his question off about the latter. Even in your link for chapter 592 Sasuke says he's going to meet Orochimaru then, says he's going to meet the one who knows everything.

Side note: there seems to be a lot of references to people giving up their left eye for a friend/brother (shisui, obito, lil Madara, itachi)...anyways, just an opinion.

 

[MetalDuck]

No I presented a theory. With some...foggy arguements. That's what a theory is. If I had strong arguements then it would've been "Truth" or "logic" not a theory. Why would I excuse to YOU ?



And you say I am retarded? oh god



I am sorry, master, I will do as you wish. lol no...just because you asked me to stay so nicely I will stay and ruin your life even more....


Seriously people, I ask you not to hate at me cus this is just a theory and you go ahead and insult me then even put words in my mouth , you call me retarded but in fact you are retarded.



God thank you, there is someone who understands me.



Well...you know, anything is possible, I was just looking for something that would explain why would Sasuke revive Orochimaru and what would the person who knows everything actually know and tell us.

You couldn't possibly ruin my life, or even upset me in anyway. It would take someone with at least the intelligence of your average dog to upset me. You are clearly inferior to me in every possible way, especially as far as intelligence, and wit go.

Your arguments weren't "foggy". You just said the most random, far-fetched bullshit you could come up with, and, instead of providing some kind of argument, or evidence of any kind, you said, "I don't know how to put it, but you know what I'm saying.". That is not how a theory works. That is how insanity works.

A theory is an idea that is backed by the evidence. This bullshit is NOT a theory. You seriously couldn't even call this a coherent thought.

And I don't hate you for this thread. I hate you because you give everyone else who posts here a bad name. Some random is gonna stumble upon this site, get interested, then open this atrocity. He is going to be so shocked by the sheer stupidity of this "theory" (again, it ISN'T an actual theory, hence the cat-scratces), and think that we're all a bunch of mindless 'tards.

I don't have the patience for this amount of stupidity. And I post on NarutoBase. I have a fairly high tolerance for stupidity, or I couldn't post here. But you, sir, are just beyond stupid. Beyond any kind of mental defect. There frankly is no word that could do you any justice.

 

[Meekz89]

Why do everyone say Obito Right eye was crushed? His body was crused but unless a sharp piece of the rock directly hit his eye, It is perfectly reasonable for his eye to be still good. If so half of his brain should have been crushed instantly, but he was still talking to kakashi and Rin. Talking about his regrets as his friend flee.

 

[MetalDuck]

Why do everyone say Obito Right eye was crushed? His body was crused but unless a sharp piece of the rock directly hit his eye, It is perfectly reasonable for his eye to be still good. If so half of his brain should have been crushed instantly, but he was still talking to kakashi and Rin. Talking about his regrets as his friend flee.

Obviously, that makes sense. But, this is Naruto. In one chapter, somebody who gets the right side of their body crushed would die instantly, since their brain would be crushed. Then, in the VERY next chapter, the same think could happen to another character, but he would still be able to talk for a few minutes, and his eye would still be intact.

What I am trying to say is that, if Kishi says his right eye was undamaged, somehow, it was. If, however, he says the boulder that crushed Obito also magically crushed his future child's genitals, thus rendering him sterile, then that is what happened.

 

[HokageTobiramaXx]

Well Tobi could have accessed Obito's body using his Earth Style techniques (which he had displayed even before revealing who he supposedly was)

 

[MetalDuck]

All I am saying is that just about every theory out there is plausible. Even the OP's theory. But he didn't actually present a theory. He presented a random idea, and basically told the reader to provide the evidence.