orochimaru and genjutsu

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first of all sorry my bad eng

me and some new comer have a bet so i will quite him time to time and bet was have orochimaru ever used genjutsu


- i asked if orochimaru ever used genjutsu

Originally Posted by GDDN
-Yes, the first time in the manga he used it against sasuke and sakura in the forest of death.
-no that was just intent to kill, which was pretty intense to genins want to try again? :
-No that was genjutsu, Because he show sakura an image of sasuke on the ground dead, Maybe you should go re-read...

it was clear to me back at the forest sasuke analyzed it and said "genjutsu.... no only to intent to kill" that has happened many times through manga example when sakura watched sasori's eyes he could know the difference their battle experience aND HOW MAny ppl they killed..

and now to the main subject, have orochimaru ever used genjutsu my answer is yes in a way
orochimaru did summon first and second hokage, placed fuda in their heads due completely controlling them to his will little later
bringer of darkness jutsu was used, so can we say orochimaru used it.. GDON says Once the caster of edo tensei summon's an edo and the edo uses a technique it doesn't make it the edo casters tech, The bringer of darkness was the 1st hokages technique not oro's...

- and therefore my conclusion is ridiculous and mine was this simply cut opinions in half so let's see some evidence back me up
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numerous time's kabuto has referred his edo summonings as his pawns or cards he can take full controll and use summoned
person techniques freely like we saw with sandaime raikage, so in a way one could say that orochimaru
did have bringer of darkness genjutsu at his disposal

this is much matter of opinion not wrong coz let's speak about pawns and what and where is the line

becouse one's free will is taken by caster of the jutsu he can say techniques is used through him since original person is dead
so in no way this is same than example tobi leader of the akatsuki do have sasori's puppet master technique or hokage kakashi's chidori
what do you think?
 
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he used genjutsu to teleport he and sasuke to his own dimension when he was planning to take sasuke's body
 

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You forgot to put in the part when i said, Since the manga was still new back then maybe kishi made a mistake because we all know in naruto the"Intent to Kill" doesn't cause illusions, That was just a mishap back then because if thats the case every villain would becausing hallucinations for our heros and thats most def not the case...
 

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first of all sorry my bad eng

me and some new comer have a bet so i will quite him time to time and bet was have orochimaru ever used genjutsu


- i asked if orochimaru ever used genjutsu

Originally Posted by GDDN
-Yes, the first time in the manga he used it against sasuke and sakura in the forest of death.
-no that was just intent to kill, which was pretty intense to genins want to try again? :
-No that was genjutsu, Because he show sakura an image of sasuke on the ground dead, Maybe you should go re-read...

it was clear to me back at the forest sasuke analyzed it and said "genjutsu.... no only to intent to kill" that has happened many times through manga example when sakura watched sasori's eyes he could know the difference their battle experience aND HOW MAny ppl they killed..

and now to the main subject, have orochimaru ever used genjutsu my answer is yes in a way
orochimaru did summon first and second hokage, placed fuda in their heads due completely controlling them to his will little later
bringer of darkness jutsu was used, so can we say orochimaru used it.. GDON says Once the caster of edo tensei summon's an edo and the edo uses a technique it doesn't make it the edo casters tech, The bringer of darkness was the 1st hokages technique not oro's...

- and therefore my conclusion is ridiculous and mine was this simply cut opinions in half so let's see some evidence back me up
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file:///C:/Users/Vieras/Downloads/Dexter.S05E09.HDTV.XviD-FEVER%20[NO-RAR]%20-%20[%20www.torrentday.com%20]/nimet%C3%B6n.png
numerous time's kabuto has referred his edo summonings as his pawns or cards he can take full controll and use summoned
person techniques freely like we saw with sandaime raikage, so in a way one could say that orochimaru
did have bringer of darkness genjutsu at his disposal

this is much matter of opinion not wrong coz let's speak about pawns and what and where is the line

becouse one's free will is taken by caster of the jutsu he can say techniques is used through him since original person is dead
so in no way this is same than example tobi leader of the akatsuki do have sasori's puppet master technique or hokage kakashi's chidori
what do you think?
Everyone knows whatever techs edo's use is not the edo's caster own,Thats just like saying your a king and one of your knights kills a great villain and you say as the king that villain died by my sword, Yes you commanded the attack but you did not strike your knight did...
 
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