Orochimaru and Gaara vs Deidara and Kakuzu
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UchihaNagashi
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Does not matter, having cells of Hashirama does not prove that you can sense.
Obito has more and still couldn't sense Naruto nor Kakashi.
Obito has more and still couldn't sense Naruto nor Kakashi.
Sand is still from earth, moving it to the Dōton section. Using Raiton of that volume would pierce it.
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Sand is not weak to lightning it is not even earth release, Sasuke used Chidori; something that is meant ot pierce pretty much anything. It had never been stated that any type of lightning would come over Gaara's sand. Plus Gaara can raise the amount of his sand since his defense is not a still one.
Prince Charles
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I mean thats why kakashi was able to intervene before it reached shikamaru and choji? You do know gaara can fly right? It's dodged that simple.
UchihaNagashi
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Raikiri activates the muscles with electricity, making you faster. That's why Minato stated that it is almost impossible to use it without Sharingan which anticipates next moves (making slower), since the eyesight is blurred due to the high velocity of speed.
Gaara will never reach that speed, since he didn't reach the speed of Lee either.
You are a fool if you question the speed of lightning bolt which is 1/1000 of second.
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KidGamer65
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White Zetsu is a sensor and Fushi Tensei gives Oro the possessed's abilities. Hence Orochimaru now being a sensor.
They communicate with each other throughout the ground, that isn't sensing.
UchihaNagashi
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Ace of the fire fist
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That's natural lightning from the clouds, not a chakra made jutsu like Gian. Unless, you're saying Kakashi's faster than 1/1000 of a second.
Kakuzu far from solos this match with minimal support.
Is this it? Kakashi has the Sharingan. He knew what would happen before it even happened. Kakuzu himself even stated that. Is that why Shikamaru and Choji were unable to open and activate a single scroll before the bolt reached them? Flying or not, it doesn't mean he is automatically faster than Kakashi. Especially, since Gaara fights stationary.
Fair enough. However, they still cannot de-activate the bombs so they will be there at all times and holding their breaths isn't gonna do the trick.
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Prince Charles
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UchihaNagashi
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Are you serious?
A lightning bolt is nowhere near the same as Raikiri. Raikiri just activates the muscles, the same way as Ay does and makes the person faster.
However, the energy used in body or torso as Ay does, is not the same in Raikiri. Raikiri concentrates the energy on finger tips, leaving minimum of energy behind in the Chakura canals.
The lightning bolt has almost no mass, so it travels free and as fast it should. However, carrying a person with it is more difficult by logic.
It doesn't matter how strong, lightning bolt is always fast. It's like saying is Chakura made water dryer than normal.
Prince Charles
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What I meant by kakashi being capable of intercepting before the raiton made impact was just me simply saying gaara has the means to evade it, shikamaru and choji didn't because their techniques don't have the quality evasive feats such as gaara's. Gaara was able to react to quick enough to madara creating a forest via mukoton with sand clouds[
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] for each of the kage. The raiton mask is easily evaded or destroyed via sand. Simple as that. And mind you the forest the madara made was going pretty damn fast.Are you trying to say kakuzu's raiton maks was traveling 1/1000 second? If you are, you are retarded.
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Yet Ino managed to shout out a warning AND THEN Kakashi jumped in.
Current Orochimaru doesn't breathe. Moreover, merging with nature could counter it as well, since we've seen that trees or landscape wasn't affected by C4.
Ace of the fire fist
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Except, that has nothing to do with my post. I'm saying Gian isn't as fast as Kirin, something you seemed to have implied in your previous post. 1/1000 of a second is the speed of a natural lightning bolt directly from the clouds, like Kirin. Not Gian. So yes, while Gian is fast, it can easily be intercepted.
KidGamer65
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The process of firing lighting as a Ninjutsu and the clouds naturally sending it down is far different, hence the differing speeds. Is Raiton fast, yes, is it as fast as natural lighting from the clouds? Obviously not otherwise Kakashi wouldn't have been able to intercept it, cause Kakashi isn't faster than Itachi who couldn't evade Kirin, which is natural lighting.
UchihaNagashi
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Not saying it is definitely as fast Kirin, however saying that it can be easily intercepted is false if not even intercepted.
The only sole reason why Kakashi did so was because Raikiri makes a person faster, as I have previously posted and stated in manga. The reason why it was a failure jutsu was because of the immense speed it produces, hence why he needed Sharingan. When Kakashi actually blitzed Kakuzu with Raikiri with no notice, not to mention Zabuza was because of that.
Gaara cannot evade it, nor intercept.
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UchihaNagashi
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I am dead serious.
How does Gaara have speed feats equal to even Kakashi, when Lee blitzed him not to mention Sasuke, who were a lot slower than Kakashi?
Seriously, I can even have a debate.
How does Gaara have speed feats equal to even Kakashi, when Lee blitzed him not to mention Sasuke, who were a lot slower than Kakashi?
Seriously, I can even have a debate.