Oro same lvl as 1st and Madara

Is oro as strong and Madara and Hashirama


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as far as we know they said sealing someone was the only way to make sure
that they never come back you have to seal people who are impure resurrected
so that they never can be resummoned,
Oro on the other hand is "i think" the only one ever to be sealed
and brought back i think he is on the same level as Madara and the First Hokage

Ummmm Orochimaru stated that he couldn't even beat Sasuke, so what in the world makes you think he'd be on the level of Madara and Hashirama?

He's not even close to their level.
 

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Oro vs Itachi was before Oro attacked the village. He was able to perform justu but itachi defeated him easily and cut off his hand. That is why Oro left Akatsuki. Madara was a dead spirit that was revived. Oro was part of his being stuck in ankos seal and he was able to watch through that. Madaras soul was brought back from the dead, Oros was not. Not degrading Oro in anyway with these comments.

^^^^Exactly
 

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Ummmm Orochimaru stated that he couldn't even beat Sasuke, so what in the world makes you think he'd be on the level of Madara and Hashirama?

He's not even close to their level.

people say alot of shit doesnt mean its true thats like saying everything tobi says is fact
and you saw how scared they were to revive him
they even said if he had his hands sasuke wouldnt stand a chance
 

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ROfl you havnt see ANYTHING from oro because HE CANT USE HIS HANDS!
case and point they died and oro is just 2 generations behind them and he is still alive and very well

Are you really that stupid? Orochimaru had both of his hands when Itachi beat him so easily you can't even refer to it as a battle.Get your head out of your ass in read the thread.
 

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people say alot of shit doesnt mean its true thats like saying everything tobi says is fact
and you saw how scared they were to revive him
they even said if he had his hands sasuke wouldnt stand a chance

Ummmm Suigetsu was scared, not Sasuke. And if Orochimaru really could beat him then he would've tried to steal his body as soon as he was revived, but he didn't and stated that it was due to him not being powerful enough to take on Sasuke. Manga>your words.

Denial is a bad trait and you're in full swing of it.
 

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Are you really that stupid? Orochimaru had both of his hands when Itachi beat him so easily you can't even refer to it as a battle.Get your head out of your ass in read the thread.

LIKE I SAID does that mean oro is weak or itachi is strong?
 

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Ummmm Suigetsu was scared, not Sasuke. And if Orochimaru really could beat him then he would've tried to steal his body as soon as he was revived, but he didn't and stated that it was due to him not being powerful enough to take on Sasuke.

Denial is a bad trait and you're in full swing of it.

BECAUSE HE STILL DOESNT HAVE HIS FKIN HANDS
and just because he said it doesnt mean it is true once agian
 

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BECAUSE HE STILL DOESNT HAVE HIS FKIN HANDS

And you know he doesn't have his hands how? Were the seals on his hands from the death god when he was revived? No.


Were his hands darkened like they were after the sealing? No

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Anko had the CS placed on her before Orochimaru lost his hands and he said he placed some of his chakra into the CS, which theoretically would mean this is the Orochimaru from before his hands were sealed since his chakra was placed in Anko's CS(Anko had her CS placed on her before Orochimaru lost his hands) before his hands were sealed.


and just because he said it doesnt mean it is true once agian

If it was said by another character then you might have a case, but it's coming from Orochimaru himself who tends to know the limit of himself and the abilities of his opponent.

You're in serious denial and it's pretty pathetic if you ask me.
 

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He would of killed the third. But the third killed himself with the death reaper seal before Oro could kill him.
 

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the third is noone to sleep on
and oro underestmated him but
he still couldnt beat him he sealed his hands to make sure that he couldnt succeed if not for that i belive the village would have been destroyed
The 3rd sealed only his hands bcuz there was two hokage needed to be sealed as well dude:(!
No, just , no.The only reason Orochimaru is back is because he left his curse mark on numerous shinobis.Orochimaru has never shown the power of Hashirama or Madara;which is why Orochimaru spent so much time experimenting with Hashirama's cells and why he wants Sasuke body so much.What Orochimaru is is a great scientist who spent years collecting information on other shinobi's jutsus and powers.With that knowledge , Orochimaru tried to make himself the most powerful shinobi but he hasn't achieved that status.
bcuz he has spent years on research, u sould not underestimate him dude, the fact that he is immortal promote him to their level in my opinion at least later, simply bcuz Madara n Hashirama could die;)! no matter the way! but they still do, As for oro he one of the ***** ,he is smart ,develop-able n have a great weapon the "Edo tens" and maybe a power up is comin ,that is a fact!:shrug:
knowledge is power and because he is so smart
he could always think of a way to defeat them also
brute strength isnt always the best
"there is no knowledge that is not power" I totally agree with and bcuz he studied Hashi cells and will mange 2 get Sharingan like Danzo did! -BTW, I cant imagine how Danzo have these enormous Sharingan n oro has not sice they worked together:sy:! - .
Your comparing him to someone who is capable of taming multiple tailed beasts at a time and as Madara put it "changing the landscape around him". And then your comparing him to the greatest Uchiha ever and someone who unlocked Rinnegan by himself. Oro is obviously vastly more powerful then orginally thought but he couldn't defeat either Itachi or sasuke so hwo could he possibly fare against madara. I understand that he had his arms locked when sasuke "beat" him but he was at no such disadvantage when he fought itachi. Oro is great but we are comparing him to two gods.
Yes he was in full power back then with Itachi ,Therefore he should have pass that period , we r talkin about someone who is inder an ultimate circle of develop so expect anything from him regarding he worked with Danzo who possess two things "Hashi cells n Sharingan power" Acutely he gave Danzo the power "He is the scientist!"
 

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bcuz he has spent years on research, u sould not underestimate him dude, the fact that he is immortal promote him to their level in my opinion at least later, simply bcuz Madara n Hashirama could die;)! no matter the way! but they still do, As for oro he one of the ***** ,he is smart ,develop-able n have a great weapon the "Edo tens" and maybe a power up is comin ,that is a fact!:shrug:

How is Orochimaru Immortal?You need to learn the meaning of the words you use before you use them.Orochimaru had to be brought back to life by Sasuke, proving Orochimaru is not immortal.Orochimaru could die, by sealing or if he didn't transfer into a new body within the four year time frame.Furthermore, don't say something is a fact when there is no proof of it."Maybe a power of comin" isn't a fact.
 

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Nope he isn't Oro possibly already admitted he wasn't at a level where he could dual with the best.. at least not yet...

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I hate to use A>B>C logic but...

Hashirma > Madara > Sasuke > Oro
Easy as that, while not really but you know what I mean.
 

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How is Orochimaru Immortal?You need to learn the meaning of the words you use before you use them.Orochimaru had to be brought back to life by Sasuke, proving Orochimaru is not immortal.Orochimaru could die, by sealing or if he didn't transfer into a new body within the four year time frame.Furthermore, don't say something is a fact when there is no proof of it."Maybe a power of comin" isn't a fact.

your just a giant hater spewing hate
 

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LIKE I SAID does that mean oro is weak or itachi is strong?

When it was Kabuto and Oro(sealed arms) vs Jiraiya, Tsunade, and Naruto those two did really good despite Oro being weakened. Although Jiraiya did not use sage mode he still had a hard time. To me that shows that the third hokage was correct in sealing Oro's arms because of his power.

Then when Oro battled against four tailed naruto we got to see more of Oro's power and skill showing he is not weak. So saying Oro is weak just because Itachi beat him is not accurate.(I dont mean that you are saying Oro is weak)

Itachi has the sword of Totsuka and the yata mirror which already makes him nearly unbeatable. Then he has powerful genjutsu.He also is fast, and smart. So Itachi is just a boss.
 
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Madara never succeeded in destroying the village.

Anyways, Orochimaru is at their level or beyond at least when it comes to knowledge. His intellect is out of this world. Once he attains his soul arms we will finally see what he's made of.
 

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your just a giant hater spewing hate

What you mean is you're agiant idiot who can't understand basic logic.

Madara never succeeded in destroying the village.

Anyways, Orochimaru is at their level or beyond at least when it comes to knowledge. His intellect is out of this world. Once he attains his soul arms we will finally see what he's made of.

Madara was had to take on Hashirama;Who did Orochimaru have in his way other than an old Hiruzen.

And how exactly is Orochiramu at the level of Hashirama and Madara when he was easily defeat by Itachi?
 
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