Orlando Massacre Shooter was Gay

[123fire]

Apprently the one who killed all these gay people is gay himself !!

It doesn't make sense!

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[Callypigia]

Why doesn't this make sense? His religion tells him he is evil for being homosexual, he has cognitive dissonance, he acts out. How he rationalized his cognitive dissonance is only known to him. Perhaps he thought he could kill homosexuals to atone for his perceived sins.

 

[123fire]

Why doesn't this make sense? His religion tells him he is evil for being homosexual, he has cognitive dissonance, he acts out. How he rationalized his cognitive dissonance is only known to him. Perhaps he thought he could kill homosexuals to atone for his perceived sins.

Thats a possibility not facts though

 

[Venomous Cobra]

“Sometimes he would go over in the corner and sit and drink by himself, and other times he would get so drunk he was loud and belligerent,”

“He just wanted to fit in and no one liked him,” he said. “He was always socially awkward.”

Depression?


OT: Meh

 

[JENchuuriki]

Ridiculous kid who wants to let his anger felt

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Does it matter when IS has clearly taken responsibility for the attack.

 

[Uzumaki Menma]

Why doesn't this make sense? His religion tells him he is evil for being homosexual, he has cognitive dissonance, he acts out. How he rationalized his cognitive dissonance is only known to him. Perhaps he thought he could kill homosexuals to atone for his perceived sins.

This man was no muslim.

He was said to be drinking at bars. Alcohol is strictly forbidden in Islam. Just like the 9/11 hijackers, all of these men claiming to be Muslims don't even follow the core values of the teaching. All they are are sad, pathetic, human beings who become lost in their own vivacious thinking, believing in what some other more misguided figurehead has told them.

As for being Gay in Islam, the punishment is NOT death, nor is it of even little bearing. Countries that have adopted stoning and other extreme measures for Homosexuality are engaging in such executions because of what their "enlightened" Imams and Scholars say. I feel bad for Muslims around the world.

A literal definition of, "between a rock and a hard place".

 

[patrickscott]

Funny how ISIS keeps slipping through the Governments usually sticky palms. Just waiting for humanity to use it's intelligence and realize it's being lied to and uprise against it.

 

[Callypigia]

This man was no muslim.

He was said to be drinking at bars. Alcohol is strictly forbidden in Islam. Just like the 9/11 hijackers, all of these men claiming to be Muslims don't even follow the core values of the teaching. All they are are sad, pathetic, human beings who become lost in their own vivacious thinking, believing in what some other more misguided figurehead has told them.

As for being Gay in Islam, the punishment is NOT death, nor is it of even little bearing. Countries that have adopted stoning and other extreme measures for Homosexuality are engaging in such executions because of what their "enlightened" Imams and Scholars say. I feel bad for Muslims around the world.

A literal definition of, "between a rock and a hard place".

That's an interesting point of view, I'm assuming your argument is based on original scriptures or old doctrine. But at what point does an old religion cease to be what it was, and evolves into an entirely different entity? If you are arguing that Islam has been corrupted by so many of its adherents not following the original tenets, then when does one just say, "this is modern Islam; it has changed." I would argue that solely based on history of conversion through warfare, but that is a different discourse. All religions eventually become corrupted over time and cease to be what they once were. If you look at Christianity it has changed multiple times (for good or ill), and is in a constant state of reform. I sympathize that you feel bad for Muslims around the world, but right now this is Islam. If it is truly based on teachings of peace, then it is time for reform.

 

[Uzumaki Menma]

That's an interesting point of view, I'm assuming your argument is based on original scriptures or old doctrine. But at what point does an old religion cease to be what it was, and evolves into an entirely different entity? If you are arguing that Islam has been corrupted by so many of its adherents not following the original tenets, then when does one just say, "this is modern Islam; it has changed." I would argue that solely based on history of conversion through warfare, but that is a different discourse. All religions eventually become corrupted over time and cease to be what they once were. If you look at Christianity it has changed multiple times (for good or ill), and is in a constant state of reform. I sympathize that you feel bad for Muslims around the world, but right now this is Islam. If it is truly based on teachings of peace, then it is time for reform.

It is NOT a teaching of peace, nor is it a teaching of violence. It is a book meant for guidance in every sector of the human life, human event, and human being (as in, from dawn to existence). When Islam was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad, the ME was in a state of bedlam with idolship rampant among other things. War soon broke out after that and the contract of war was taught to Muhammad (i.e what he should do, peace treatings, torture, all of that).

The Qur'an is as much of a law book as it is a religious scripture. Everything in the Qur'an is absolute and cannot be overtaken by ANYTHING. You say that other religions have changed due to external circumstances which is absolutely true. Some change has been for better, some change for worse.

The worse change though is when it comes at the hands of individuals who believe they can make sense of something that literally cannot be mastered, perfected, nor discovered (in its fully capacity). Imams and scholars have diluted Qur'anic teachings by injecting their own culture within the DNA of Islam and by following Hadith (what followers of the prophet Muhammad "heard" him say or "believe" is right due to the fact they lived in those (relative) times.

Islam does not have to adapt. You literally cannot change the text of the book without corrupting it entirely. It is Muslims who have to adapt and push aside ancient views and beliefs to better fit in the more liberal and democratic world we live in today. Of course, with the way the ME is now, that will probably never happen.

 

[kimb]

This man was no muslim.

He was said to be drinking at bars. Alcohol is strictly forbidden in Islam. Just like the 9/11 hijackers, all of these men claiming to be Muslims don't even follow the core values of the teaching. All they are are sad, pathetic, human beings who become lost in their own vivacious thinking, believing in what some other more misguided figurehead has told them.

As for being Gay in Islam, the punishment is NOT death, nor is it of even little bearing. Countries that have adopted stoning and other extreme measures for Homosexuality are engaging in such executions because of what their "enlightened" Imams and Scholars say. I feel bad for Muslims around the world.

A literal definition of, "between a rock and a hard place".

This does not change the fact that he was influenced by the religion of peace.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

This does not change the fact that he was influenced by the religion of peace.

If he was than he should have adopted the basic principles of the religion. Which he clearly didn't from the sound of it.

 

[Uzumaki Menma]

This does not change the fact that he was influenced by the religion of peace.

Islam is not a religion of peace.