Origins of the Uzumaki clan speculation.

[Flakez]

I know it has no effect on the current situation, but the common ancestor the Uzumaki share with the Senju/Uchiha/Otsutsuki is still one of the most interesting mysteries to me.

Stated as distant blood relatives of the Senju clan, there are nearly infinite possibilities as to how far back their common family member actually existed. Below is just a list of what comes to the top of my head. And also, because I assume all Senju's and Uzumaki are related, I'm ruling out the possibility of a single Senju marrying into the Uzumaki clan and thus making the two clans related.

1. Hagoromo's brother started the Uzumaki clan. The simplest and my favorite explanation.

2. Either one of Ashura or Indra's children started the Uzumaki clan.

3. Hagoromo had more than 2 children and one of the other kids started the Uzumaki clan.

4. Kaguya had siblings that eventually started the Uzumaki clan.

5. The Uzumaki existed even before Kaguya and eventually married one of her family members before the Senju existed.

Which theory would you most enjoy?

 

[MephistoChild]

It agree with it being on of Ashura's or Indra's children

 

[captaincook]

I actually do think it was Hagoromo's brother. Makes the most sense to me.

 

[Gagster]

No, the Uzumaki were the sages' father.

 

[Flakez]

No, the Uzumaki were the sages' father.

I ruled out that possibility, cuz it looks like he was miraculously conceived.

 

[davidou]

I would add 2 scenari.

5/+1/=Uzumaki is an old family pre-Kaguya (no red hairs , not strong dna...) and the last one of them fell in love with Hago's bro(his red hair ... became dominant because his genes are strong).

6/Here is Hagoromo's father , Sojobo Uzumaki:

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I think :
not 2/ (distant relatives + Mito/Hashi)

in order of probability:

5+1
5
1
6
4
3

 

[iNotorious]

I like the first one a lot.

 

[Torche]

Like you said, so many possibilities. I wouldn't rule out Hagoromo's father either considering Hagoromo's hair wash redish-grey when he was shown.

 

[Ashura San]

I like 1 and 3.
1 seems the most plausible.

 

[Gary777]

Hagoromo bro is the only sensible option ... Even the sage has red hair ... Which shows his bro must have had them thus distant reltion stems from that

 

[Flakez]

Hagoromo bro is the only sensible option ... Even the sage has red hair ... Which shows his bro must have had them thus distant reltion stems from that

Like you said, so many possibilities. I wouldn't rule out Hagoromo's father either considering Hagoromo's hair wash redish-grey when he was shown.

Yeah, but WSJ did an official coloring and it looks like Madara has the same hair. Possibly due to becoming Juubi's Jin.

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[davidou]

Hagoromo bro is the only sensible option ... Even the sage has red hair ... Which shows his bro must have had them thus distant reltion stems from that

Red hair doesn't need to be a Uzumaki gene.
It could be a Ootsutsuki one , that was passed through Uzumaki family via fertilization.

 

[davidou]

Yeah, but WSJ did an official coloring and it looks like Madara has the same hair. Possibly due to becoming Juubi's Jin.

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Hago=red hair
Hago=Ashura+Indra
Madara=Ashura+Indra
Madara=red hair

 

[Wabbit]

It is unlikely that Kaguya had siblings and randomly they were able get large chakra reservers and were better vessel to hold the bijus.
3rd is also unlikely,why wouldnt sage mention that he had 3 sons.2nd one is convincing.5th one is interesting.

 

[Torche]

Yeah, but WSJ did an official coloring and it looks like Madara has the same hair. Possibly due to becoming Juubi's Jin.

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Red hair doesn't need to be a Uzumaki gene.
It could be a Ootsutsuki one , that was passed through Uzumaki family via fertilization.

Possible, Damn we need to see Kaguya's hair coloured officially!

 

[Flakez]

Hago=red hair
Hago=Ashura+Indra
Madara=Ashura+Indra
Madara=red hair

Obviously Madara's hair changed after he became Juubi's Jin.

 

[BLAZE]

indra and ashura transmigrants r their decendants and i think only exception is naruto.
so imo ashura is ancestor of uzumakis

 

[lilix]

what if hagoromos wife was a uzumaki

 

[rollin]

Ashura's descendants
It's been stated that the uzumaki clan and senju clan are distant blood relatives and that Nagato is if the senju lineage
They also are known for their incredible life-force which ashura inherited from the sage
And why would the rivalry between ashura and indras reincarnation be between anyone else besides their descendants

 

[davidou]

Obviously Madara's hair changed after he became Juubi's Jin.

You're right.
Did Kishimoto show us the color of Juubito's hair?