Orachimaru vs Kisame

[LustyLover]

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That doesn't really actually prove anything.​

 

[Haizaki]

The scan proves nothing as such. If your focused on the "same hand" statement, there's two issues. 1) a clone is technically using the same hand. 2) we've seen others summon Manda for Orochimaru as long as they use his blood, since they neither had his chakra or snake contract. Clones possess both the users blood and chakra, therefore they can summon.

You made a point here. Though I doubt clones would be summoning with a fraction of the users chakra as we haven't seen a clone summon in any chapter.

There's nothing hinting that the water itself hindered his eyesight. Nevertheless, he'd have snake to sense for him.

There's nothing hinting when he himself said it? Can't remember snakes sensing except through heat.

Your doubt goes against the purpose of his jutsu. He takes a host for their abilities, not just their body. Itachi's body sucked but his power was great. You can obviously disagree if you wish

He didn't do the transmigration ritual process like against Sasuke

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[blazekev90]

You made a point here. Though I doubt clones would be summoning with a fraction of the users chakra as we haven't seen a clone summon in any chapter.



There's nothing hinting when he himself said it? Can't remember snakes sensing except through heat.




He didn't do the transmigration ritual process like against Sasuke

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He used the same ritual

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It just didn't go into depth, since we've already witnessed the process with Sasuke

Temperature and smell. Overall their senses.

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He eyes were closed, the reason is unknown to us. It can't be said that the water forced him to do so, as some people can't go underwater with their eyes open. So, seeing as he wasn't a shinobi, nothing leads me to believe he should've been trained to do so.

 

[Demonic.]

Orochimaru wins. That Kisame is below Sanin level.

 

[Haizaki]

He used the same ritual

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It just didn't go into depth, since we've already witnessed the process with Sasuke

Temperature and smell. Overall their senses.

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He eyes were closed, the reason is unknown to us. It can't be said that the water forced him to do so, as some people can't go underwater with their eyes open. So, seeing as he wasn't a shinobi, nothing leads me to believe he should've been trained to do so.

I'll admit you countered the water dome part though with the clones and summonings. Though I believe Kisame can still win without the water dome.

Eh Ok I'll let the Zetsu Oro part slide and assume he can use it. Still Kisame can pull off a win.
@bold Lol You know I'm talking about Killer B right? That's what he said.

 

[blazekev90]

I'll admit you countered the water dome part though with the clones and summonings. Though I believe Kisame can still win without the water dome.

Eh Ok I'll let the Zetsu Oro part slide and assume he can use it. Still Kisame can pull off a win.
@bold Lol You know I'm talking about Killer B right? That's what he said.

I said he could possibly win with my first post!

I'm pretty sure the was the fodder with him. But at least we cleared a few things up

 

[ChrisWolf]

Healing doesn't cure poison, it heals wounds. If the was the Sakura wouldn't have needed an antidote. Poison enters the blood stream and would need to be removed.

Orochimaru wouldn't be able to out swim his without distractions to occupy Kisame. As I stated, he has snakes at his disposal.

The sword varies in size, as shown against the 3rd Hokage. Also, Orochimaru has shown faster hand speed while wielding his weapon than Kisame has.

I mentioned ways he'd defeat Kisame:
1) poison
2) stab/behead
3) swallow him (summoning)

If it was desperate attempt to takes over his body. Not my personal choice, but an option.

I wasn't sure how well the healing would do against poison Im glad you have an opinion on that but even so we have not seen poison form oro that has actually killed anyone, I could be mistaken if so please let me know and I will accept it. His speed with his sword and him making it larger simply does not matter, it cannot stand up to samehada and any wounds inflicted would be healed. And swallow him? really? because its not like samehada cant cut through snake skin or kisame cant summon water from the inside of the snake to drown it....no not at all that's unheard of.....lol excuse the sarcasm.

and snakes to distract pssssssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhh kisame has mother ****ing sharks **** snakes that as far as we've seen haven't shown any spectacular under water aerobic/swimming feats......

 

[Nifrum]

Orochimaru wins, med-diff.

 

[Lariatoo]

Going with that Old Snake bastard here:

Manda swims inside the Water Dome, Kusanagi is > than Samehada (in my opinion), and he seems like a more well rounded character...

But do not underestimate Kisame...
It's going to be a high diff fo sure.

 

[blazekev90]

I wasn't sure how well the healing would do against poison Im glad you have an opinion on that but even so we have not seen poison form oro that has actually killed anyone, I could be mistaken if so please let me know and I will accept it. His speed with his sword and him making it larger simply does not matter, it cannot stand up to samehada and any wounds inflicted would be healed. And swallow him? really? because its not like samehada cant cut through snake skin or kisame cant summon water from the inside of the snake to drown it....no not at all that's unheard of.....lol excuse the sarcasm.

and snakes to distract pssssssssssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhh kisame has mother ****ing sharks **** snakes that as far as we've seen haven't shown any spectacular under water aerobic/swimming feats......

I can't tell if you're serious now?