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Hey.

So, sharing some events and statements I heard or read about with you people.

1- "Criminals(thieves, murderers, rapists) are just victims of the opressive system/society" A statement supported by some people.

2- Cop kills biggest drug dealer in the city(big city). Cop is fired because he killed "a person".

3- Thief gets hurt when trying to break into a woman's house. Thief sues woman and wins, costing her 400 dollars.

So, how stupid do you think all of this is? Would you like this to be common in your country?

Please answer, and if you may, organize your post with "1 2 3" so we can know what you're talking about. You can comment about each situation as well, if you want.

Thanks for the attention.
 

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Hey.

So, sharing some events and statements I heard or read about with you people.

1- "Criminals(thieves, murderers, rapists) are just victims of the opressive system/society" A statement supported by some people.

2- Cop kills biggest drug dealer in the city(big city). Cop is fired because he killed "a person".

3- Thief gets hurt when trying to break into a woman's house. Thief sues woman and wins, costing her 400 dollars.

So, how stupid do you think all of this is? Would you like this to be common in your country?

Please answer, and if you may, organize your post with "1 2 3" so we can know what you're talking about. You can comment about each situation as well, if you want.

Thanks for the attention.
That's stupid AF.#3 wtf
 

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3 and 2 are essentially the same thing just different degree and situation. 1 is most definitely the worst
 

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This is stupid
But the problem is that this is common at my country...
 

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Cops do no-knock raid at the wrong house at 2:00 am in the morning,owner shoots at cops, then goes to jail for it
 

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America and India are basically the only countries where that can be common to an extend.

1. No one wants to hire criminals, record usually prevents you from working and what else is there to do? You have to earn your food one way or another.

2. Without a warning or further rational thinking shooting someone, then yes, the cop deserves to get fired or prosecuted and imprisoned himself. However if the suspect has a knife or a gun that he/she refuses to put down, cop has every right to neutralize the target to protect himself and innocent around. I still think that shot in the leg first if the suspect is carrying a knife or other sort of light weapon, more harsh method can be taken into consideration if there is a gun involved. Cop has every right to save his own life by taking life of a suspect refusing to comply.

3. Perfect example of America. Plain stupid case... This shouldn't even be taken into any account in courts, you break into someones house, guilty and that's it. It shouldn't effect if you fail to actually rob anything and more so get hurt while failing to actually get benefit from your victim...
 
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1) In many cases society labels criminals, even if they are first-timers. Would you employ someone who has a criminal record? No. Therefore they return to crime. (I'm not saying it's always like this, or that criminals are innocent. Just one possibility)

2) Well if he just walked over to the guy and shot him without warning or anything, then I'm not surprised.

3) Ok that's stupid
 

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Well, a lot of people are stupid. Extremely stupid. So stupid, that Spongebob looks like a
genius in comparison. Ok, maybe not that dumb, but you get my point.
 

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everyone with more power calls himself just
thats all there is to this worlds justice
 

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Hey.

So, sharing some events and statements I heard or read about with you people.

1- "Criminals(thieves, murderers, rapists) are just victims of the opressive system/society" A statement supported by some people.

2- Cop kills biggest drug dealer in the city(big city). Cop is fired because he killed "a person".

3- Thief gets hurt when trying to break into a woman's house. Thief sues woman and wins, costing her 400 dollars.

So, how stupid do you think all of this is? Would you like this to be common in your country?

Please answer, and if you may, organize your post with "1 2 3" so we can know what you're talking about. You can comment about each situation as well, if you want.

Thanks for the attention.

Some thieves, robbers, prostitutes and even drug dealers are the product of poverty within society, a great many non violent criminals would not have gone down that road if they had not been impoverished. That does not condone there crime, what they did is wrong, however, in these circumstances some understanding should be applied.

Murder is murder, it is only condonable in self defense or when protecting another.

All rapist's should be tied to a pole, covered in tar and set on fire, then there screams should be recorded for prosperity, so we can get the recording out at parties and listen to it for a laugh. That goes for anyone who hurts a child or animal as well.

I don't know what country would sack a policeman for shooting and killing a drug dealer unless the guy was unarmed. That is just weird.

I've heard of this before, I can't believe any court would listen to it, there should be a law preventing this.
 

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America and India are basically the only countries where that can be common to an extend.

I'm sad to inform you that you're wrong. In Brasil, that's common. People here are also against self-defense.

It all started with "we cant kill criminals because they're humans like us"

Then it evolved unto all this crap. Within a few years.

Só basically: Keep an eye for what stupid ideas people spread in tour country
 

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I'm sad to inform you that you're wrong. In Brasil, that's common. People here are also against self-defense.

It all started with "we cant kill criminals because they're humans like us"

Then it evolved unto all this crap. Within a few years.

Só basically: Keep an eye for what stupid ideas people spread in tour country

There is never anything said about Brazil to begin with, the world just does not care for third world country unless there is an event there. So far in 20 years I think I've seen only 3-4 things mentioned about Brazil in my country. Mostly I have to browse sources around to find news about ''the not so popular'' countries. The ones that USA is not involved with or any other super nation are just left in the shadow to handle their own problems without any kind of attention. But, Norway is somewhat similar, they treat criminals like royalty in prisons.
 

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I'm sad to inform you that you're wrong. In Brasil, that's common. People here are also against self-defense.

It all started with "we cant kill criminals because they're humans like us"

Then it evolved unto all this crap. Within a few years.

Só basically: Keep an eye for what stupid ideas people spread in tour country

Humans are defined by humanity, those who cannot follow the basic rules of being human, give up there right of humanity, they talk like a human, they walk like a human, they look like a human, but they are not human at all. Basic rules of humanity, never hurt or violate another, always show respect, even if your views differ, tolerance, understanding, equality, empathy and kindness. None of it is hard to do and none of it costs a penny.

this world is walked by humans and those who only resemble them, they range from the scum bags who throw chips at starving, homeless old men and the evil, that beat there own children to death. I wish I had deathnote...
 

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Humans are defined by humanity, those who cannot follow the basic rules of being human, give up there right of humanity, they talk like a human, they walk like a human, they look like a human, but they are not human at all. Basic rules of humanity, never hurt or violate another, always show respect, even if your views differ, tolerance, understanding, equality, empathy and kindness. None of it is hard to do and none of it costs a penny.

this world is walked by humans and those who only resemble them, they range from the scum bags who throw chips at starving, homeless old men and the evil, that beat there own children to death. I wish I had deathnote...
....... "Speechless" Literally, never even thought it could truly be used.
 

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....... "Speechless" Literally, never even thought it could truly be used.

HUH? What? Oh, wait, I think I get it, you mean it was used on you, I think, Ah, my brain is ultra slow today...
 
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1- "Criminals(thieves, murderers, rapists) are just victims of the opressive system/society" A statement supported by some people.
Sadly,It is not societies problem if they cant keep up.Crime is a crime.
2- Cop kills biggest drug dealer in the city(big city). Cop is fired because he killed "a person".
It is law issue.
3- Thief gets hurt when trying to break into a woman's house. Thief sues woman and wins, costing her 400 dollars.
Lawyers,There are some things even politicians will not do for money

2 and 3 are the issues of the law. Justice is not a physics rule.The system is as good as people make it to be.
Would you like this to be common in your country?
No but sadly both Law and Law enforcement is corrupt and ****ed up in my country.
I have already heard and saw so many atrocities,all I need is money,influence and a good lawyer and I can shoot random people at road I can walk away.It is more effective if I belong to a minority.That gives a political support.
 

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There is never anything said about Brazil to begin with, the world just does not care for third world country unless there is an event there. So far in 20 years I think I've seen only 3-4 things mentioned about Brazil in my country. Mostly I have to browse sources around to find news about ''the not so popular'' countries. The ones that USA is not involved with or any other super nation are just left in the shadow to handle their own problems without any kind of attention. But, Norway is somewhat similar, they treat criminals like royalty in prisons.

Bold- That's good, that's very good. The less you hear of it, the less brazilian stupidity spreads.

It is still a fear I have though. To see the other countries being infected with such stupidity.
 
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