Opinions on Sakura?

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You live you're own life, just like for naruto, he wants sasuke to come back to the village, but eventually if sasuke never wanted to go back and wanted to stay evil, when it all comes down to it, he would have to let him go and that's not even his main goal, everyone wanted sasuke to come back, is that their goal?, no, theirs a diffrence between something that you want and a goal
Jesus Christ
You're not convincing anybody
A goal is a "the object of a person's ambition or effort; an aim or desired result."
What you think isn't a goal doesn't mean it isn't for another person, geez
 

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Jesus Christ
You're not convincing anybody
A goal is a "the object of a person's ambition or effort; an aim or desired result."
What you think isn't a goal doesn't mean it isn't for another person, geez
Sakura gave up on that so called "Goal", when she tried to attack sasuke, she said clearly "All i do is cry and rely on naruto",
"But all i can do is trust in them", basically meaning that she'll leave it up to them to sort it out, so that what she wants is a "Desire", which everyone has, and is not a "goal", a goal like you said is when you putt EFFORT and aim for that goal, which sakura does not do, she just wants it to happen
 

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Sakura gave up on that so called "Goal", when she tried to attack sasuke, she said clearly "All i do is cry and rely on naruto",
"But all i can do is trust in them", basically meaning that she'll leave it up to them to sort it out, so that what she wants is a "Desire", which everyone has, and is not a "goal", a goal like you said is when you putt EFFORT and aim for that goal, which sakura does not do, she just wants it to happen
That's the way you ****ing see it dammit
I don't care for the last time, your opinion does not matter, like mine
You're trying to start an argument for no reason
 

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That's the way you ****ing see it dammit
I don't care for the last time, your opinion does not matter, like mine
You're trying to start an argument for no reason
I clearly gave evidence that it is not a goal, where she makes no effort and does not aim for it, now its just you being biased at this point, but i'm done
 

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No you're the one being biased, you're the one who hates her
You're the one trying to start and argument that I don't want to be part of
LOL you repiled so you obviously wanted to be apart of this "Argument" also you show no evidence of you're claim, while i gave manga facts and stuff sakura clearly said, so who's being biased??, i may dislike sakura, but i'm being unbiased in this argument and looking at it at both sides
 

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LOL you repiled so you obviously wanted to be apart of this "Argument" also you show no evidence of you're claim, while i gave manga facts and stuff sakura clearly said, so who's being biased??, i may dislike sakura, but i'm being unbiased in this argument and looking at it at both sides
So replying that how you view goals is different from how other people see goals is me showing I want to me part of an argument?
Like grow up, not everybody thinks like you. You present evidence on how you view a goal
 

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So replying that how you view goals is different from how other people see goals is me showing I want to me part of an argument?
Like grow up, not everybody thinks like you. You present evidence on how you view a goal
you said yourself clearly, a goal is something that you aim for and makes effort, just like Naruto wanting to become hokage, he made effort to get stronger and sasuke getting revenge on itachi, he made effort to become as powerful as itachi to avenge his clan, sakura on the other hand has made no Effort to try and get team 7 back together, its just something that she wanted and relied on naruto to do
 

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it´s not like she´s not done anything, but i find her personality really annoying, in part 1 she was the most annoying character of the series with her crush on sasuke and her usual big mouth, in part 2 she´s been keeping a lower profile but she still has those annoying treats like the big mouth, her rampages on anyone who disagrees with her, in part 2 the reason why seem annoying to me was because of 2 things: when she punched sai just for saying the truth(sasuke was a traitor to the leaf) and the second has to do with her big mouth, she said to k11 she was gonna take care of sasuke and tell naruto about it, but instead she just lied to naruto telling him she love him and them betraying her comrades to later fail to kill him and get kakashi and naruto in trouble for saving her
 
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you said yourself clearly, a goal is something that you aim for and makes effort, just like Naruto wanting to become hokage, he made effort to get stronger and sasuke getting revenge on itachi, he made effort to become as powerful as itachi to avenge his clan, sakura on the other hand has made no Effort to try and get team 7 back together, its just something that she wanted and relied on naruto to do
Dude its clear she never really had a goal. Why are you guys even arguing over this?
 

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you said yourself clearly, a goal is something that you aim for and makes effort, just like Naruto wanting to become hokage, he made effort to get stronger and sasuke getting revenge on itachi, he made effort to become as powerful as itachi to avenge his clan, sakura on the other hand has made no Effort to try and get team 7 back together, its just something that she wanted and relied on naruto to do
But the problem is that I'm saying that's how you view it, I view it differently
Everybody views her actions and efforts differently, that's my point
If you wish you can talk to yourself in this thread because I'm done
 

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But the problem is that I'm saying that's how you view it, I view it differently
Everybody views her actions and efforts differently, that's my point
If you wish you can talk to yourself in this thread because I'm done
Yeah but i'm trying to say she has none, she made no efforts, like she said herself "All i do is cry and rely on naruto"
 
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i don't know, i just hate when people try to deny manga facts, i am ClarifyingThings
Anyone who denies this is clearly not reading the same manga that Kishimotto wrote. The arthur made it clear from the very begining that she has no goal nor purpose besides filling the team seven slot. She is a failure as many females in this manga. It is not the characters fault but the arthurs. We should all accept that and move on.
 
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And my quote comes into affect.
And I ain't making this easier to read.
Hinata, guys may be saying Hinata resolves around Naruto.
But if I take a look into our main character "Sakura"
What I see is a female with little background, this is how I see/recognize Sakura.
This is exactly how I see her when thinking of her character.
"Crushed on Sasuke early in part 1, then cried about telling Naruto to bring him back"
"Still crushed on Sasuke even after becoming a criminal"
"Tried to kill Sasuke"
"Saw Sasuke again after being called useless by him, finding her self in love with him again"
"Constantly hitting Naruto"
"Constantly crying to the person she doesn't even respect"
"Waste of panel space"
"Kishi's plot device"

Thats what I think when I read "Sakura" or see her.
She's been a main character and around longer than any other female character, yet somehow we don't know a damned thing about her.
You may argue she has more character progression, but I have to give it to you, the only character progression I saw where loops.
Sure she somehow learned these powerful things, but nothing ever is actually shown about her, ever seen her train for that seal?
Nope.
She learns one thing or another(and we don't even see that, its like one thing having 2 spoons, another 3, and another day 4), but her personality almost never changes permanently.

"Loves Sasuke"
"Still loves Sasuke"
"Hates Sasuke"
"Loves Sasuke"
"Likes Naruto"
"Dislikes Naruto"
"Falls for Naruto"
Repeat.
And remember that plot device part?
I mean't it, she literally doesn't affect anything until Kishi wants her to.
This is how I see her growth in power. Larger numbers meaning more power.
Sakura - Sakura1 - Sakura2 - Sakura3 - Sakura4.
Ummm, did you actually see her work for that?
Or actually even try to earn that?
All I see is a time skip everytime she gets a new feat.



While Hinata on the other hand, has a character known for yes, being revolved around Naruto.
But what many overlook is her depth, she has ties to her family and Neji.
While off-screen it has been shown.
At moments where her and Neji are into it(don't take that wrong).

And pretty much everytime she gets a panel she's around Naruto.
That's basically placing Naruto around Sasuke before he actually returned as a "good" guy, every panel he's shown.

It's really not that Hinata is my favorite or anything.
It's just that Sakura is a really, really, really dis-likable character.

I don't know about you but it seems as if her only actions that affect plot are either about Sasuke.
Or about her being a plot device, she isn't relevant this moment.
Then "BOOM!" she has a powerup that allowed her to solo [insert-challenge] making it easier for the plot to progress.
I view Sakura as a plot device used by Kishi, with almost no relevance to the manga but being that person who can't make up their mind, and cries on the main character when lucked out(Which really any character can do)
Besides being a plot device she has feelings, and so far its been.

"Naruto your really growing"
"Oh Naruto you dumbass!! You haven't change a bit!!"
Repeat that many more times.
"Sasuke, sa-sa-Sasuke-kun!!"
"Sasuke really is amazing!"
"eh sasuke"
Repeat.



It seems like she was never there for anything but to rant or compliment the main characters.
Or to randomly get a powerup she trained for that we never knew had took place, all for a problem to become nerfed or for her to have so called "Character development"

It isn't exactly character development when your stuck in a loop and learn things never hinted, spoken about, and that just appear from thin air.
Because she was trained by Tsunade in the timeskip is no excuse for all these random powerups.
 
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Amazingly I like her personality, she is the only character in this manga like us humans, most confess its development in history and skills and depressing. It's almost disgusting the way that Kishimoto not developed, moreover it saves lives and it ends up ruining the character and annoying readers.
Kishimoto still has more good chanses to develop their skills just simply want it.
 
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