Open your eyes,the proof is infront of you!

[Kronnic]

Yeah, and wasn't the Hyuuga Clan said to be older than Uchiha and Senju? (being the oldest clan in Konoha) so isn't it possible that the Uzumakis were older than Uchiha and Senju?

Real talk Deep.

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

I think others have a misconception that Rikudou was Adam (the first man) and the Elder and Younger son were like Cain and Abel, that they were the first people to exist, this is simply not true, since Jiraiya said the Sage spread the teachings of ninshu and the way of peace in a time of constant war and strife, and the most prominent warring faction in the manga are clans or families, clans must have existed during the Sage's era, albeit non-ninjutsu wielders.

Yeah, I saw some people post things like that. I think people forget the stuff some people say in the manga and only focus on the current things that's been said.
Most people only go on stuff Obito said about the sage and forget Jiraya's words.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Yes,people think everyone is related to the sage,he's like Adam in the bible,which is a great Misconception!

 

[rollin]

Maybe because Naruto has yet to unlock his full potential?

It doesn't mean that all Uzumakis should resemble Rikudou in terms of power, Rikudou was one of a kind, by that logic then even Karin would be Rikudou-level which she isn't. Naruto could be, like Rikudou, a "mutation" a "one of a kind" Uzumaki. that came out after successive generations since Rikudou Sennin.

And the Uzumakis couldn't have been descendants because Kushina said the Uzumakis and Senjus were distant blood relatives, if the Uzumakis were descendants then they would be direct/immediate relatives

i bet if karin were to have the same seal and the yang of kurama she would look like naruto and the sage and the uzumakis are from the senju lineage which is related to the sage
i bet if any uzumaki were to have the same seal and yang of kurama and tamed it like naruto they will resemble the sage's "body"(younger son)

 

[BossManKakashi]

Truly,am one of those still trying to prove Rikoudu was an Uzumaki,but people are either Ignorant or blind to accept manga facts!
Here's my final comment on this!
We all know naruto used the same seal rikoudu used against juubi,right?

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And Kushina basically said the same seal naruto used against kurama is based on their own fuinjutsu's made by her village,right?

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____Recap__
The same seal used by Rikoudu sennin in enslaving the juubi,was made by the uzumaki's.
Rikoudu taught the world Ninjutsu's when he discorvered chakra,that's after the enslavery of juubi!
But its Impossible for him to be taught something,when he was the one who taught others!
The sage passed Down a certain Ninjutsu,one Used in enslaving juubi,and in hopes of using it again prior to the awakening of juubi.

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So it was stated that rikoudu was a monk,right?
We need to know if it was after or before juubi's slavery!
But he discorvered chakra after enslaving juubi,and started teaching those who are to be enlightened.....
So we could say he became a traveling monk after juubi's defeat!
But he If he'd taught the Uzumaki's fuinjutsu,kushina would have Never said the Torii seal was based On a technique from her village,when in all reality it was rikoudu who taught them!
But saying kushina never knew anything about it,because she was knowledgeable in fuinjutsu!
It was said Rikoudu passed his Ideals and assets to his two sons,but his legacy was passed onto his youngest son!
But the Uzumaki possesed something the sons supposed to have,because its their father's in the first place
No senju has ever been skilled in fuinjutsu to the calibre a fullblown Uzumaki was
How can the senju's have actually taught the uzumaki's sealing,when in fact none have showed adeptness in that field????
Kushina taught Minato
Mito sealed kurama in herself..
See the pattern!
________Summary____
1.Kushina said the same fuinjutsu naruto used agains kurama was based on one developed By he village,the same rikoudu used
2.If trully Uzumaki's came from senju's,senju's ought to be knowledgeable in fuinjutsu than any uzumaki's,because they are called a clan of thousand skills.but its the other way round
3.The sage actually passed down the skills of sealing to the Uzumaki's,not the senju's!

No you are wrong 100% so quit talking about this dumb shit. the uzumakis are descended from the younger son of the so6p, so he wasnt a damn uzumaki. uzumakis werent even in existence yet. manga states senju and uzumaki are cousins.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

i bet if karin were to have the same seal and the yang of kurama she would look like naruto and the sage and the uzumakis are from the senju lineage which is related to the sage
i bet if any uzumaki were to have the same seal and yang of kurama and tamed it like naruto they will resemble the sage's "body"(younger son)

Lineage, in context of what Zetsu said, means "kinship" or blood relative

lineage - the kinship relation between an individual and the individual's progenitors
family relationship, kinship, relationship - (anthropology) relatedness or connection by blood or marriage or adoption

This is the original Japanese text:

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血縁 - Ketsuen: Blood Relative

not 子孫 - Shison: descendants

This is what Zetsu said:

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You cannot be a descendant clan and be a distant blood relative at the same time, that would be a contradiction.

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They are what you call "distant relative clans"


So there is no contradiction between Zetsu and Kushina's statements, there is only a contradiction in the reader's interpretation.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

No you are wrong 100% so quit talking about this dumb shit. the uzumakis are descended from the younger son of the so6p, so he wasnt a damn uzumaki. uzumakis werent even in existence yet. manga states senju and uzumaki are cousins.

No your wrong!
So quit talking Dumb shit
It was never stated Uzumaki's descended from senju
And if am wrong,who passed the legacy of fuinjutsu to the uzumaki's?.....
Infact counter my whole proven points! Dumb shit!

 

[blackstar9]

No you are wrong 100% so quit talking about this dumb shit. the uzumakis are descended from the younger son of the so6p, so he wasnt a damn uzumaki. uzumakis werent even in existence yet. manga states senju and uzumaki are cousins.

Exactly my point!

 

[blackstar9]

No your wrong!
So quit talking Dumb shit
It was never stated Uzumaki's descended from senju
And if am wrong,who passed the legacy of fuinjutsu to the uzumaki's?.....
Infact counter my whole proven points! Dumb shit!

your basing your argument that the safes is an uzumaki on the uzumaki clans technique. The sage predates the uzumaki. You can't come from a clan you predate.

 

[BossManKakashi]

No your wrong!
So quit talking Dumb shit
It was never stated Uzumaki's descended from senju
And if am wrong,who passed the legacy of fuinjutsu to the uzumaki's?.....
Infact counter my whole proven points! Dumb shit!

sage had two sons senju and uchia, uzumakis are distant relatives to senju not directly related like your argument states. you are wrong get over it

 

[KingHashirama]

Don't make theories into facts.

This is why this theory is the most annoying theory to be made on NB, as far as i know.

Uzumaki clan is related to the Senju clan. Not the Uchiha clan. UZumaki are from Senju linage. It doesn't say Senju are from Uzumaki linage now does it.


And all your Uzumaki hype about how they are "most" related to the SO6P according to you people fails.. when the main character represents the Senju Leader Hashirama.

 

[Champ]

Rikudo was Uchiha/Senju in one body, not a Uzumaki.

 

[dhaoracle]

Your theory is very good but i dont believe that the sage of six path belong to any clan for i believe at that time there where no clans
But maybe he had a third son maybe
Kishimoto is the boss

Where are people like you getting the notion that Rikudo Sennin was either the first human or one of the first humans. He was a Priest so there had to be a family that refined the stuff that he learned such as the Fuinjutsu that he used to seal the Juubi with.

 

[dhaoracle]

Don't make theories into facts.

This is why this theory is the most annoying theory to be made on NB, as far as i know.

Uzumaki clan is related to the Senju clan. Not the Uchiha clan. UZumaki are from Senju linage. It doesn't say Senju are from Uzumaki linage now does it.


And all your Uzumaki hype about how they are "most" related to the SO6P according to you people fails.. when the main character represents the Senju Leader Hashirama.

Not once does it say that the Uzamaki are branched off from the Senju Clan, not once. Also how does any of anything the OP says has failed when everything is pointing directly to or even looks exactly like Rikudo Sennin. Also no he doesn't represent Hashirama, Hashirama represents Hashirama. Naruto represents Rikudo Sennin. Did you not here what all of the Bijuu said about him..???

PAY ATTENTION DUDE..!!!!1

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Exactly my point!

What point did he make?
He only rained a couple of insults on me!

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Don't make theories into facts.

This is why this theory is the most annoying theory to be made on NB, as far as i know.

Uzumaki clan is related to the Senju clan. Not the Uchiha clan. UZumaki are from Senju linage. It doesn't say Senju are from Uzumaki linage now does it.


And all your Uzumaki hype about how they are "most" related to the SO6P according to you people fails.. when the main character represents the Senju Leader Hashirama.

Oh! Ok
But answer my question....
Who taught uzumaki's fuinjutsu!?????
Why is it that the manga( properly translated
)never said they descended from senju's?!!!!
Come with an evidence,and ama drop it,if not your on!!!!

 

[KingHashirama]

Not once does it say that the Uzamaki are branched off from the Senju Clan, not once. Also how does any of anything the OP says has failed when everything is pointing directly to or even looks exactly like Rikudo Sennin. Also no he doesn't represent Hashirama, Hashirama represents Hashirama. Naruto represents Rikudo Sennin. Did you not here what all of the Bijuu said about him..???

PAY ATTENTION DUDE..!!!!1

1. I never said branched off. =]. I said the Uzumaki are from the Senju linage.. meaning Uzumaki clan came from the Senju clan.

2. NAruto doesn't represent Hashirama? Dude you have no idea what your talking about. Naruto reps Hashirama.. Sasuke reps Madara:

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Oh! Ok
But answer my question....
Who taught uzumaki's fuinjutsu!?????
Why is it that the manga( properly translated
)never said they descended from senju's?!!!!
Come with an evidence,and ama drop it,if not your on!!!!

Who said Uzumaki are the ONLY fuinjutsu users? noone did.
Manga did say they are from the Senju linage.. It never said the Senju descend from the Uzumaki.. lmao. Its a insult to the SO6P to put him in a clan .

Any translation for the manga besides Viz is non-canonical.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

1. I never said branched off. =]. I said the Uzumaki are from the Senju linage.. meaning Uzumaki clan came from the Senju clan.

2. NAruto doesn't represent Hashirama? Dude you have no idea what your talking about. Naruto reps Hashirama.. Sasuke reps Madara:

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Neither was it stated that uzumaki's where branched from senju's
Seriously you don't have any valid proof.....

 

[dhaoracle]

1. I never said branched off. =]. I said the Uzumaki are from the Senju linage.. meaning Uzumaki clan came from the Senju clan.

2. NAruto doesn't represent Hashirama? Dude you have no idea what your talking about. Naruto reps Hashirama.. Sasuke reps Madara:

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Wouldn't branched off and from the Senju Lineage mean the same thing or are you admitting that the Senju Clan are branched off from the Uzamaki Clan..??

Also that was soo long ago. Yes maybe they resemble both Hashirama and Madara BUT Naruto's destiny is bigger than some fight with Sasuke. Naruto is the Child of Prophecy and most likely the Child that Rikudo Sennin was talking about who is going to connect all the Bijuu together and show them real power. His destiny is no that just for Senju and Uchiha but basically all of the Shinobi World.

His destiny is and will be bigger than what Hashirama accomplished in his lifetime. And to think that he is only 16.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Wouldn't branched off and from the Senju Lineage mean the same thing or are you admitting that the Senju Clan are branched off from the Uzamaki Clan..??

Also that was soo long ago. Yes maybe they resemble both Hashirama and Madara BUT Naruto's destiny is bigger than some fight with Sasuke. Naruto is the Child of Prophecy and most likely the Child that Rikudo Sennin was talking about who is going to connect all the Bijuu together and show them real power. His destiny is no that just for Senju and Uchiha but basically all of the Shinobi World.

His destiny is and will be bigger than what Hashirama accomplished in his lifetime. And to think that he is only 16.

Couldn't have said it any better!