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- Not Official Fight & Rei's Rules and Regulations.
- Terrain: One of the Restricted City Outskirts Ruins of Water temple in the Water Country
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- Range:Mid range from each other, I am standing on the left side ontop of that building and you are at the opposite end on that other building. Don't ask me what we are doing in a restricted area, I have no idea too >_>
- Element & Jutsu Usage: Basics 5 elements no rank restriction and CJ allowed.
- Type of Battle: Tai, Nin, Ken and free foaming allowed. But Gen is not allowed.
Weapon(s): You can use as many as you like.
Weather: No clouds visible at the moment but if the fight last to the 4th Turn of both players clouds would have already formed. The terrain is somewhat soaked with water as if it was raining in the night or perhaps water from leaked pipes.
- Bio: I will use


Toki is at the top of the building wearing his usual Suna ninja gear and is holding his arrow bow on his right hand and has already set his bow ready for one arrow. On his left hip is his favorite sword and lastly he's wearing some cool shades to protect his eyes from the wind that is blowing from in the screen outwards the screen. Meaning the air is blowing towards your screen.

Toki sees you as you get ontop of the building, he turns back to see who it is. He is slightly surprised to see that its the man who was behind him was the delinquent from Kiri who was kinda infamous around this area. Toki knew very well that no matter where this guy went there was always trouble.

"What could you out of people want from me, while I am busy trying to hunt a meal for my self on my way back to Suna?"

As Toki turns back towards you he throws a kunai infused with wind chakra
 
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Toki is at the top of the building wearing his usual Suna ninja gear and is holding his arrow bow on his right hand and has already set his bow ready for one arrow. On his left hip is his favorite sword and lastly he's wearing some cool shades to protect his eyes from the wind that is blowing from in the screen outwards the screen. Meaning the air is blowing towards your screen.

Toki sees you as you get ontop of the building, he turns back to see who it is. He is slightly surprised to see that its the man who was behind him was the delinquent from Kiri who was kinda infamous around this area. Toki knew very well that no matter where this guy went there was always trouble.

"What could you out of people want from me, while I am busy trying to hunt a meal for my self on my way back to Suna?"

As Toki turns back towards you he throws a kunai infused with wind chakra[/FONT]
After a while of wandering the areas most restricted to many yet always open to the guardian, he finaly stumbled across a new face. Jack stopped in his tracks and locked his prey within sight. Although his full intention was to murder the man standing before him, Jack's facial expression seemed rather calm and collected whilst he stood stationed atop the building opposite to his target.

"What could you out of people want from me, while I am busy trying to hunt a meal for my self on my way back to Suna?"

Jack smiled at the man and said, "I am but trying to hunt a meal for myself as well, partially metaphorically speaking." As his opponent launched a kunai directly towards him, Jack performed a single hand seal beneath the cloak he was wearing which would essentially be concealed from Toki's view (The hand seal performance, that is.) After performing the hand seal, Jack would effectively cause large currents of wind to start forming across the entire battlefield which he had complete control of through the use of hand gestures. Jack raises his arms out of his cloak and performs a slight hand gesture with his left hand that would cause a current of wind to rotate the kunai in mid air and cause it to blast directly back towards Toki at an accelerated rate being it that the kunai would now be propelled by the current of wind. Simultaneously to that, Jack would perform a hand gesture with his right hand as well, this hand gesture appears as if Jack is choking nothing before himself and with that, currents of wind would expand closely around Toki, pushing down on his entire body and making proper movement rather troublesome. The kunai would approach fast and easily pierce right through Toki's chest should he not defend himself quickly.


Rank: S
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra Cost: 40 (-5 per turn)
Damage Points: N/A
Description: After making the Rat handseal, the user creates and controls air currents from the palms of their hands, forming a large field of raging air currents and gusting winds. The technique expands quickly, rapidly spanning through all of the battle field, gathering debris, dust and other small particles in its path. The technique effectively creates a very large controllable "dust" storm.
Note: Lasts 3 turns or until released.

 

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Just as when Jack performed the yet trying to hide hand seals from him to deflect his kunai Toki was alarmed and reacted as how his instincts told him to do. He wanted to burn everything.

"You want to hunt as well? You frost brat don't you have manners? Its common knowledge that there can only be one predator at a time."

As soon as you expel that gust of wind from both your hands Toki kneads his fire chakra and ignites a flame of fire across the ground in between us enemies by simply sending his fire chakra down the building he is standing on and to the other side of the building which you are standing on. The fire created ignites the debris below there and all other insignificant flammable materials and creates a low pressure zone between us meaning as the air warmed up the wind jutsu you used gets instantly cancelled and ascends upwards to the sky aiding into the cultivation of new clouds.

Because of that the kunai you tried to send back at me simply falls down in between us. As the fire and wind jutsu cancel each other out which temporally creates a smoke screen that makes both opponents unable to see each other. Toki makes his move by first creating a lightning clone from the position that he was standing on and goes down to the 3rd floor of the building by smashing it with his legs and pushing through to the said floor. The lightning clone emits a spear of lightning that he aims to you, well the very least the last position Toki saw you on.


(Katon: Hokori Tenka no Jutsu) - Fire Release: Dust Ignition Technique
Rank: A
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: 60
Description: The user will first ignites a flame of fire across the ground infront of them and then they will enhance that fire with a gust of wind to extend the range of the fire

(Raiton: Raiton Kage Bunshin) - Lightning Release: Lightning Shadow Clone
Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: N/A
Description: User creates a Shadow Clone of himself but made from lighting chakra. When the clone gets hit he will return to its previous state of pure lighting chakra. The clone has a physical substance and therefore is able to use ninjutsu and taijutsu techniques as well as he has all the normal moves the user has.
Note: Can only use lightning based techniques up to B rank.

(Raiton: Gian Yari) - Lightning Style: False Darkness Spear
Rank: B
Type: Offense
Range: Short/Long
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: The user emits a spear of lightning from their mouth. The spear can then split apart to strike multiple enemies.

 

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Just as when Jack performed the yet trying to hide hand seals from him to deflect his kunai Toki was alarmed and reacted as how his instincts told him to do. He wanted to burn everything.

"You want to hunt as well? You frost brat don't you have manners? Its common knowledge that there can only be one predator at a time."

As soon as you expel that gust of wind from both your hands Toki kneads his fire chakra and ignites a flame of fire across the ground in between us enemies by simply sending his fire chakra down the building he is standing on and to the other side of the building which you are standing on. The fire created ignites the debris below there and all other insignificant flammable materials and creates a low pressure zone between us meaning as the air warmed up the wind jutsu you used gets instantly cancelled and ascends upwards to the sky aiding into the cultivation of new clouds.

Because of that the kunai you tried to send back at me simply falls down in between us. As the fire and wind jutsu cancel each other out which temporally creates a smoke screen that makes both opponents unable to see each other. Toki makes his move by first creating a lightning clone from the position that he was standing on and goes down to the 3rd floor of the building by smashing it with his legs and pushing through to the said floor. The lightning clone emits a spear of lightning that he aims to you, well the very least the last position Toki saw you on.


(Katon: Hokori Tenka no Jutsu) - Fire Release: Dust Ignition Technique
Rank: A
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: 60
Description: The user will first ignites a flame of fire across the ground infront of them and then they will enhance that fire with a gust of wind to extend the range of the fire

(Raiton: Raiton Kage Bunshin) - Lightning Release: Lightning Shadow Clone
Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: N/A
Description: User creates a Shadow Clone of himself but made from lighting chakra. When the clone gets hit he will return to its previous state of pure lighting chakra. The clone has a physical substance and therefore is able to use ninjutsu and taijutsu techniques as well as he has all the normal moves the user has.
Note: Can only use lightning based techniques up to B rank.

(Raiton: Gian Yari) - Lightning Style: False Darkness Spear
Rank: B
Type: Offense
Range: Short/Long
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: The user emits a spear of lightning from their mouth. The spear can then split apart to strike multiple enemies.

Your move wouldn't work and you will get killed by the kunai. I'll explain why though, The terrain is soaked in water for one, this would somewhat weaken your fire technique although not that much as opposed to an actual water technique. The fire would however dry up the ground and attempt to weaken the currents of wind as you had explained. That would also be ineffective because even though heat travels upwards, the currents are all over the battlefield so the fire wouldn't be able to cancel out all of the wind, especially since the fire isn't directly opposing the wind but you are rather relying on the heat of the fire which is already weakened due to the water all over the place which it has just dried up. Last and most important is, you never defended from the kunai, it wouldn't just drop to the ground as you explained, I manipulate a current of wind to rotate it in mid-air and send it back towards you almost as if I threw it, it was just being propelled faster by the current of wind after it rotated and not carried by the wind.

I hope you don't mind me just pointing out mistakes, I wouldn't want you to lose in official battles because of such small mistakes. Anyway, I am going to continue and perform my move based on yours.


As Toki ignites a large flame across the ground before himself and Jack, Jack performs a single hand seal and expels from his mouth a large amount of water that covers a large area before himself, the water quickly advances forward as massive waves which easily douses all of the flames while continuing to attack Toki. Soon after, Jack materializes a large tiger created purely of ice, the tiger then dashes at great speed across the water and directly towards Toki. Upon approaching the man, the tiger would swipe its large paws diagonally across and attempt to brutally murder Toki. Also, the tiger would freeze all the water as he runs across it, meaning as it reaches Toki, majority of the terrain would be covered in Ice.

"Did you expect respect from me? Hahaha...you must be brain dead or something."


Rank: A
Type: Offensive,Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: 60
Description: This technique is a stronger version of exploding water colliding wave technique. The user will first perform the ram hand seal and then spits out a large amount of water that covers an entire area, with massive waves that can crush the opponent. The user then forms the water into a giant orb, instead of releasing like weaker version of the technique.




Rank: B
Type: Attack/Defense
Range: Short-Long
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage: 40
Description: The user will create a giant tiger made out of ice. The tiger cannot even be slightly affected by any water release unless it is A ranked or above (or a combination of water and another element) as it freezes most water release attacks it comes in contact with.

 

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You can make a thread in the training grounds and I will help you with battle training, if you want. I am not that good myself but I wouldn't mind helping you a bit.
 

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Ow... so people do battle training? Wait a minute where did I hear that before... Oh now I remember, its okay I think I am covered since a Sensei promised me to do that for me, But I'll humbly let you know if something changes.
 
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The errors in judging errors are too much. First, that counter is valid. The terrain being soaked in water does not significantly weaken a technique. It is basically insignificant considering fire inherent strength over wind. Second, that technique, Air Current Dance that is, cannot do most of, if not all of the things you did. The technique has one purpose, and that is to cover the field in dust. It simply facilitates the movement of particles, dust, poison, pollen, ash, etc. It is high ranked because of its range. Unlike other dust covering techs, this one literally covers the whole field. Everything up to long range. But the currents themselves are rather weak. The Juubi was able to push away the dust with just a whip of its tail (which would be B-rank if we relate that to the Chakra Arm tech) and Temari pushed it away with Kaze Kiri (B-rank as well). It cannot turn a kunai in mid air or control actual wind pressure system (which is what you tried to do). It's main purpose is to move a large amount of particles with ranged controlled. It has no brute force and thus can be pushed away with lesser ranged wind techs even, and that fire tech would pierce through the dust combined with the wind.

That is all. Being a wind enthusiast, I can't have people using the tech wrongly.
 

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The errors in judging errors are too much. First, that counter is valid. The terrain being soaked in water does not significantly weaken a technique. It is basically insignificant considering fire inherent strength over wind. Second, that technique, Air Current Dance that is, cannot do most of, if not all of the things you did. The technique has one purpose, and that is to cover the field in dust. It simply facilitates the movement of particles, dust, poison, pollen, ash, etc. It is high ranked because of its range. Unlike other dust covering techs, this one literally covers the whole field. Everything up to long range. But the currents themselves are rather weak. The Juubi was able to push away the dust with just a whip of its tail (which would be B-rank if we relate that to the Chakra Arm tech) and Temari pushed it away with Kaze Kiri (B-rank as well). It cannot turn a kunai in mid air or control actual wind pressure system (which is what you tried to do). It's main purpose is to move a large amount of particles with ranged controlled. It has no brute force and thus can be pushed away with lesser ranged wind techs even, and that fire tech would pierce through the dust combined with the wind.

That is all. Being a wind enthusiast, I can't have people using the tech wrongly.
I am a wind enthusiast myself, and all I did was exploit its actual capabilities. The technique still creates "currents of wind" and even if the currents are weak, they still are currents, it takes a B-Rank technique to blow the currents away, so why can't I rotate a kunai in mid-air with the currents? And why can't I make the currents push down on my opponent's body? I form currents across the entire battlefield that I am able to control with my hands, being it that the technique forms a large dust storm would just be a bonus. I am not contesting your statement, all I am saying is that I am taking advantage of the fact that I have wind currents across the entire battlefield which I am able to control with my hands.

Her fire technique would work but it doesn't have the range that the currents do thus it wouldn't be able to destroy all of the currents. And by the time the flames would have destroyed most of the wind currents between the two of us, the kunai would have already been rotated and blasted back towards her.

Oh my gawd!!! Why am I doing this again?!

I am so sorry Sensei-kun! You are right! :(
 

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Many thanks to my sensei... I suppose this means my move is valid and I neutralized that wind jutsu. So if Yashiro uses a water jutsu after I used that lightning jutsu shouldn't the electricity shock him?
 

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Respect to yashiro for owning up to his mistake.
You couldn't tell I was being sarcastic?

Many thanks to my sensei... I suppose this means my move is valid and I neutralized that wind jutsu. So if Yashiro uses a water jutsu after I used that lightning jutsu shouldn't the electricity shock him?
Let's go with yes, the lightning shocked and electrocuted me. Let your sensei hone you into an awesome RPer first, then I will tear you down in NW the proper way :).
 

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Many thanks to my sensei... I suppose this means my move is valid and I neutralized that wind jutsu. So if Yashiro uses a water jutsu after I used that lightning jutsu shouldn't the electricity shock him?
I don't recommend looking that deep into it. Things usually stop making sense after this point. As for Yashiro, the problem wasn't that your logic was incorrect but that you aren't capable of using that logic in the RP with that technique. Back in the day, there was more leniency to how a technique could be interpreted because there were so few techs both canon and custom. But now, you should try to stay within the scope of the technique. There are so many techs now that there are other techs you would infringe, one example is Scorps 360 turn around tech. You somewhat infringed on that. That could be one reason it could be seen as meta-gaming. You used a canon tech to achieve something somebody's custom does. Try to be creative with the tools you have when dealing with canon techs, try not to make the tools yourself or use tools to do something the aren't meant to do. That's something that should be reserved for customs.
 
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I don't recommend looking that deep into it. Things usually stop making sense after this point. As for Yashiro, the problem wasn't that your logic was incorrect but that you aren't capable of using that logic in the RP with that technique. Back in the day, there was more leniency to how a technique could be interpreted because there were so few techs both canon and custom. But now, you should try to stay within the scope of the technique. There are so many techs now that there are other techs you would infringe, one example is Scorps 360 turn around tech. You somewhat infringed on that. That could be one reason it could be seen as meta-gaming. You used a canon tech to achieve something somebody's custom does. Try to be creative with the tools you have when dealing with canon techs, try not to make the tools yourself or use tools to do something the aren't meant to do. That's something that should be reserved for customs.
If that's the case I recommend they edit the technique. Maybe with something like this:

(Fūton: Kiryū Ranbu) - Wind Release: Air Current Wild Dance]
Rank: S
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra Cost: 40 (-5 per turn)
Damage Points: N/A
Description: After making the Rat handseal, the user creates and controls air currents from the palms of their hands, forming a large field of raging air currents and gusting winds. The technique expands quickly, rapidly spanning through all of the battle field, gathering debris, dust and other small particles in its path. The technique effectively creates a very large controllable "dust" storm only.
Note: Lasts 3 turns or until released.
Note: The air currents cannot be used to control none other than dust particles for the dust storm.

That would make everything much more easier and the technique won't seem so versatile.
 

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You couldn't tell I was being sarcastic?



Let's go with yes, the lightning shocked and electrocuted me. Let your sensei hone you into an awesome RPer first, then I will tear you down in NW the proper way :).
Well okay no prob, its my win this time *_*, you'll get revenge later when my Kage allows me to go to NW :p
 
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