Oonki vs Minato

[Joki]

Are you kidding me? Against Deidara he was so high that we couldn't even see the ground anymore. All that was there was clouds. He can't hit Minato from there and even if he could, there's still ST barrier and teleportation,

He was already at an altitude in which Minato could never reach him and was going to use a Jinton when Akatsuchi highly disadvised it because Onoki was going to blow up Turtle Island. If that's what full-chakra Onoki is capable of Minato is pretty screwed.

Just saying that he can still reach him from in the sky at least, lol

 

[Uchiha Madara Senju]

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[~Uzumaki~]

He was already at an altitude in which Minato could never reach him and was going to use a Jinton when Akatsuchi highly disadvised it because Onoki was going to blow up Turtle Island. If that's what full-chakra Onoki is capable of Minato is pretty screwed.

Just saying that he can still reach him from in the sky at least, lol

Minato could summon toad, toad could jump and blast Onoki with fire or water, Minato can jump off mid air toad to gain some height then throw kunai at Onoki to get in range.

 

[choft]

Minato could summon toad, toad could jump and blast Onoki with fire or water, Minato can jump off mid air toad to gain some height then throw kunai at Onoki to get in range.

Is that high enough though? And Onoki can just dodge all these attacks.

 

[Joki]

Minato could summon toad, toad could jump and blast Onoki with fire or water, Minato can jump off mid air toad to gain some height then throw kunai at Onoki to get in range.

That's nowhere near enough, boss summons are so tiny in comparison with the island they're like 1 pixel in size. Assuming the entire island was the size of 1 boss summon to scale it still wouldn't be enough to reach him, he can fly much higher than Minato would be able to reach him

 

[iMicLykTyson]

I think they are right Onoki would win this

 

[lol99]

I don't think that's true.

Are you referring to this in the manga?

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I think he meant the radius of his attack. We know how big a blast radius can be caused from Dust release attacks. For example here:

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But this doesn't mean that his Jinton can't reach the ground. Look at this attack:

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The two situations are different. In his fight against Deidara, he just didn't want the radius of his blast to reach the turtle, it had nothing to do with the fact that his attack can't reach the turtle. I reckon if Onoki used an attack like the one he did on Madara as shown above, I think he could hit the turtle.

So I think Onoki can still hit Minato on the ground.

that was caused by two jintons colliding.
oonokis jinton doesn't explode like a bomb at least that laser light type version doesn't

in the page below it oonoki had to spin around to cover that large radius.
its like taking a laser light and spinning it around

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i dont think his jinton explodes

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here he intends to do the same thing what he was doing during fight with kabuto and deidara.
if his jinton covered an enormous radius he would end up killing anyone who was close

 

[choft]

that was caused by two jintons colliding.
oonokis jinton doesn't explode like a bomb at least that laser light type version doesn't

in the page below it oonoki had to spin around to cover that large radius.
its like taking a laser light and spinning it around

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i dont think his jinton explodes

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here he intends to do the same thing what he was doing during fight with kabuto and deidara.
if his jinton covered an enormous radius he would end up killing anyone who was close

It covers a large enough radius that Onoki flew far away from it so he couldn't hurt the turtle.

But the point of that post was to show that Onoki can still hit someone from the ground if he uses an attack like he did against Madara.

 

[lol99]

It covers a large enough radius that Onoki flew far away from it so he couldn't hurt the turtle.

But the point of that post was to show that Onoki can still hit someone from the ground if he uses an attack like he did against Madara.

show me one panel where his jinton exploded and covered a large radius

 

[choft]

show me one panel where his jinton exploded and covered a large radius

The one you quoted already. Btw, what are we arguing about?

 

[Baka Sennin]

Madara dodged both Oonoki's atomic detatchment and the huge last one, so I don't see why Minato, who's faster than that, couldn't.

At any rate, we've already seen that space/time ninjutsu>dust release through Tobi. And it's not as if Oonoki can spam those attacks either. All Minato has to do is touch Oonoki once and then he's marked for dead. If he can mark A, Bee, and Tobi, he can definitely mark Oonoki before he flies away. And if Oonoki flies, Minato can still throw Kunai into the air and teleport to them, Oonoki won't fly out of range unless he knows minato can teleport to them, he'll simply dodge.

 

[lol99]

The one you quoted already. Btw, what are we arguing about?

why do you say the blast radius of jinton?
when it has never been shown to explode except in that page?

 

[choft]

Madara dodged both Oonoki's atomic detatchment and the huge last one, so I don't see why Minato, who's faster than that, couldn't.

Madara just absorbed the attacks with his Rinnegan. He didn't dodge them.

At any rate, we've already seen that space/time ninjutsu>dust release through Tobi.

Minato's S/T ninjutsu is not the same Tobi's S/T ninjutsu. Whilst Tobi can just teleport anywhere, Minato can't. He needs a mark.

And it's not as if Oonoki can spam those attacks either. All Minato has to do is touch Oonoki once and then he's marked for dead. If he can mark A, Bee, and Tobi, he can definitely mark Oonoki before he flies away.

Ok, I'll give it to you that he might be able to mark Onoki before he flies away.

And if Oonoki flies, Minato can still throw Kunai into the air and teleport to them, Oonoki won't fly out of range unless he knows minato can teleport to them, he'll simply dodge.

I don't see how Minato can reach Onoki's height just by throwing his kunai.

Ok, if Minato can mark Onoki before he flies away, then I say Minato wins. But if he can't. I think it will be much tougher.

 

[choft]

why do you say the blast radius of jinton?
when it has never been shown to explode except in that page?

Because why else would Onoki fly far away from the turtle?

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Is that high enough though? And Onoki can just dodge all these attacks.

Yes he can, but it won't matter, Minato just needs a kunai near him.

 

[choft]

Yes he can, but it won't matter, Minato just needs a kunai near him.

So Minato can get all the ways to the clouds? And are you saying Onoki cannot dodge a Kunai?

 

[lol99]

Because why else would Onoki fly far away from the turtle?

his laser light jinton would have damaged the turtle thats why anything that comes in contact with it gets disintigerated.

 

[choft]

his laser light jinton would have damaged the turtle thats why anything that comes in contact with it gets disintigerated.

Which is why I was talking about the blast radius.

 

[Baka Sennin]

Madara just absorbed the attacks with his Rinnegan. He didn't dodge them.



Minato's S/T ninjutsu is not the same Tobi's S/T ninjutsu. Whilst Tobi can just teleport anywhere, Minato can't. He needs a mark.



Ok, I'll give it to you that he might be able to mark Onoki before he flies away.



I don't see how Minato can reach Onoki's height just by throwing his kunai.

Ok, if Minato can mark Onoki before he flies away, then I say Minato wins. But if he can't. I think it will be much tougher.

no, he sure as hell didn't absorb the second one, otherwise he wouldnt have lost his arm and leg. and he said as much too, he didn't have time to activate preta path. otherwise the dust release would have been absorbed no?

and while yes it's true that minato needs a mark, tobi needs to materialise and takes longer to teleport himself, yet he didn't hesitate to jump into a dust release. meaning it's not that quick. and while tobi is pretty damn fast, minato is quicker.

I don't see why not, unless Oonoki flies away to a really high height in which case he can't hit Minato either... Minato can throw, teleport and throw again. theoretically he can go as high as he wants, provided he has the kunai.

personally, i think Minato is quite the bad match for Oonoki. dust release and rock techniques aren't going to help much vs ftg and rasengan.

 

[choft]

no, he sure as hell didn't absorb the second one, otherwise he wouldnt have lost his arm and leg. and he said as much too, he didn't have time to activate preta path. otherwise the dust release would have been absorbed no?

Could you show me which one you're talking about?

and while yes it's true that minato needs a mark, tobi needs to materialise and takes longer to teleport himself, yet he didn't hesitate to jump into a dust release. meaning it's not that quick. and while tobi is pretty damn fast, minato is quicker.

My point was that Tobi can just teleport into the air if he wanted to. Minato can't without a mark. Minato's S/T requires on him being able to mark Onoki. Tobi's one doesn't.

I don't see why not, unless Oonoki flies away to a really high height in which case he can't hit Minato either... Minato can throw, teleport and throw again. theoretically he can go as high as he wants, provided he has the kunai.

Onoki can fly to the clouds. I just can't see Minato going up that high. And Onoki has this attack:

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That looks pretty long ranged to me

personally, i think Minato is quite the bad match for Oonoki. dust release and rock techniques aren't going to help much vs ftg and rasengan.

If Onoki didn't have the ability to fly, then yes I agree it's a bad matchup. But I just can't see Minato being able to tag Onoki apart from at the beginning when Onoki tries to fly away.