[VS] Onoki vs Orochimaru

[Haizaki]

Not a legit comparison. Kakashi had to mold chakra for something so big. We've seen how fast he can perform Kamui when he's not tired and the object is human sized +.

..? Both of them were in a tired state. Not to mention that's not even an excuse when we've seen how fast he could warp severally in a bad state. BSM Naruto, the Gudodama, Minato's Rasengan, Hachibi, Gedo's arm and so on. Plus there's no way he's as tired as you're making it seem. Especially when he got healed by Sakura before this

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and this was the first attempt of Kamui after the healing. Plus the fact that we've seen Obito prove us wrong with Kamui in a horrific state.

He couldn't make it in time because of how fast that TBB was prepared and the only option that came in his mind was Kitsuchi's technique. He couldn't initiate Kamui in time as he said to himself.

 

[RedRobin]

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Thats a horrible comparison. You used Kamui at the point where Kakashi was molding chakra when you know in other cases he has shown to use it WAY faster.

 

[Haizaki]

Thats a horrible comparison. You used Kamui at the point where Kakashi was molding chakra when you know in other cases he has shown to use it WAY faster.

I really hate when I get replies from idiots...When Kakashi was in a weakened state, he moulded chakra fast enough to warp the Juubi's arm before Madara could teleport it. He moulded chakra fast enough to teleport Hachibi before the Juubi's laser could hit it.

I just showed Sakura healing him...There's also the fact that Obito was in a horrendous state but could still but could still warp Sakura fast enough before Madara's rod could reach her.

- Doesn't Kitsuchi need to mould chakra for his own techniques? Smh. Was he tired being in a war all day as well?

 

[RedRobin]

I really hate when I get replies from idiots...When Kakashi was in a weakened state, he moulded chakra fast enough to warp the Juubi's arm before Madara could teleport it. He moulded chakra fast enough to teleport Hachibi before the Juubi's laser could hit it.

I just showed Sakura healing him...There's also the fact that Obito was in a horrendous state but could still but could still warp Sakura fast enough before Madara's rod could reach her.

- Doesn't Kitsuchi need to mould chakra for his own techniques? Smh. Was he tired being in a war all day as well?

I am the idiot? LOL.

First off Kamui takes WAY more chakra than raising the damn earth. Especially when warping something like a TBB from the juubi. So this is the worst case to use to compare Kamui's speed.

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^ Before Kitsuchi even has a chance to touch the floor. Get out of here, mobile core being faster than Kamui Lol.

 

[Haizaki]

I am the idiot? LOL.

First off Kamui takes WAY more chakra than raising the damn earth. Especially when warping something like a TBB from the juubi. So this is the worst case to use to compare Kamui's speed.

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^ Before Kitsuchi even has a chance to touch the floor. Get out of here, mobile core being faster than Kamui Lol.

Smh..My post states it's faster than using Kamui. Hence it's initiation is since Kakashi in his mind saw he couldn't use Kamui before Kitsuchi could pull out Mobile core. He stated that in his mind...He didn't attempt to use the Jutsu because he knew for sure. Though explaining to an illiterate won't do me any favor. Kaur warped the Gedo's arm in a bad state?

Kitsuchi was pretty much touching the ground, look at that scan...Not sure what's so surprising when the same dude has shown fast movements before

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, has shown the initiation only takes a short while and Kakashi must have known this. Where's the initiation of the technique that proves my point wrong. Kamui couldn't make it in time before mobile core could be released. Not hard and what makes your point crumble is how Sakura healed him right before this.

 

[RedRobin]

Smh..My post states it's faster than using Kamui. Hence it's initiation is since Kakashi in his mind saw he couldn't use Kamui before Kitsuchi could pull out Mobile core. He stated that in his mind...He didn't attempt to use the Jutsu because he knew for sure. Though explaining to an illiterate won't do me any favor. Kaur warped the Gedo's arm in a bad state?

Kitsuchi was pretty much touching the ground, look at that scan...Not sure what's so surprising when the same dude has shown fast movements before

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, has shown the initiation only takes a short while and Kakashi must have known this. Where's the initiation of the technique that proves my point wrong. Kamui couldn't make it in time before mobile core could be released. Not hard and what makes your point crumble is how Sakura healed him right before this.

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'No time for seals' Kakshi and Danzo cant even physically move but Kitsuchi will touch the ground and use mobile core. But guess what can make it, Kamui.

It was a ridiculous point where you ignored everything about your bad comparison.

 

[Haizaki]

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'No time for seals' Kakshi and Danzo cant even physically move but Kitsuchi will touch the ground and use mobile core. But guess what can make it, Kamui.

Kitscuhi could form it before it was fired and his hands were basically on the ground already. What you're showing me is Danzo not being able to form a seal after it's being fired while he's standing up and you're comparing him to someone that could surprise a V2 beast with his attack. Either way I don't care as far as I've shown the initiation seemed to be faster than Kamui based on Kakashi's words and what you've shown to me is the speed of Kamui at play. Goodbye as it's clear to me you've failed to understand what I've said...Not going to waste my time on you as no one obviously should.

 

[RedRobin]

Kitscuhi could form it before it was fired and his hands were basically on the ground already. What you're showing me is Danzo not being able to form a seal after it's being fired while he's standing up and you're comparing him to someone that could surprise a V2 beast with his attack. Either way I don't care as far as I've shown the initiation seemed to be faster than Kamui based on Kakashi's words and what you've shown to me is the speed of Kamui at play. Goodbye as it's clear to me you've failed to understand what I've said...Not going to waste my time on you as no one obviously should.

Haizaki your point was just dumb. How could I show you Kamui at play without showing you the initiation first?

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Its seems Kamui's initiation was so fast that you actually missed it. Lol.

Kamui can be initiated before physical movements like hand signs and touching the floor. As shown by everything I posted.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Haizaki, it's most likely due to the size of Juubidama that he had to mold chakra more. If it was smaller, he would have wrapped it.

 

[Haizaki]

Haizaki, it's most likely due to the size of Juubidama that he had to mold chakra more. If it was smaller, he would have wrapped it.

Well he already warped the Gedo's arm before a space time ninjutsu could be completed(In a tired state). The Hachibi before he could be hit by the Juubi's laser(tired state as well)

Assume it was the size, that doesn't make it a bad feat at all seeing how he had to also extend his use of the technique to alter the Juubi's footing. Seeing how Kakashi was just healed and he thought to himself that it won't make it but Kitsuchi's would pull that out faster before the TBB was released. Kitsuchi on the other hand was fighting all day too.

@RR Being at play, in the sense that it's in his line of sight making it much easier unlike something that constantly travels out of that line with hight speed. Period. He did beat Kamui and Kakashi was just healed and thought to himself rather than using it that the other technique would be faster despite him not even knowing Kitsuchi's own personal state so there's no excuse except the size at best being the reason but I brought other points and the fact that he was healed. Only Kratos deserves a reply here so consider your next ignored if it's retarded. Samui was beat.

 

[Zexion~]

If earth mobile core is used Oro has a free advantage to get out of Onokis sight by entering the ground through the sides of the core, if he uses it upwards it does next to nothing....

Everyone saying if Onoki touches Oro its GG, (even though its not) he's not touching Oro without a hard time assuming there is intel.