Onoki and Jiraiya vs Kakuzu and Sasori

[Manda II]

Jiraiya can summon and use the elder Sage toads since the beginning of the battle.

Restriction: Sage mode, Jinton
Location: Sasuke vs Deidara


Who wins?

 

[KidGamer65]

Does that condition mean that Jiraiya starts with Ma and Pa? Cause if it does I favor them. If not, I favor Akatsuki.

 

[Manda II]

Does that condition mean that Jiraiya starts with Ma and Pa? Cause if it does I favor them. If not, I favor Akatsuki.

Yes, Jiraiya can start with Ma and Pa or summon them whenever he pleases. I meant to say that Jiraiya can summon the Sages the traditional way since the beginning of the fight, without having to use the ritual method for the sake of this thread.

 

[Zexion~]

Elder toads can't avoid shit on their own though.......

Restrictions make the Akatsuki look like pussies you can keep in SM....just not Jinton :lol

 

[Manda II]

Elder toads can't avoid shit on their own though.......

Restrictions make the Akatsuki look like pussies you can keep in SM....just not Jinton :lol

Honestly speaking, SM Jiraiya solos the Akatsuki duo.

 

[Dying Soldier]

Honestly speaking, SM Jiraiya solos the Akatsuki team.

Lml my man what a joke U_U Kakuzu clearly solos katon fuuton >>>> that weak toad bullet flame or whatever that is no bigger than Manda :lol ^_^

 

[Beans2]

Elder toads can't avoid shit on their own though.......

Restrictions make the Akatsuki look like pussies you can keep in SM....just not Jinton :lol

Without Jinton restricted Onoki solos them. If Jiraiya starts in SM, he solos.

OT: Jiraiya and Onoki win mid difficulty with these restrictions.

 

[Zexion~]

Honestly speaking, SM Jiraiya solos the Akatsuki duo.

Without Jinton restricted Onoki solos them. If Jiraiya starts in SM, he solos.

OT: Jiraiya and Onoki win mid difficulty with these restrictions.

Both ready to get ****ed up,

Please enlighten me how they win? Both of you

 

[Ansatsuken]

lol I thought its Deidara but Sasori. Wth wrong with mexd

Kakuzu and Sasori take this still.

 

[Beans2]

Both ready to get ****ed up,

Please enlighten me how they win? Both of you

First I want to debate unrestricted Onoki vs these two. How do the Akatsuki fodder counter this?

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[Zexion~]

First I want to debate unrestricted Onoki vs these two. How do the Akatsuki fodder counter this?

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They don't? I said with jinton they lose, although didn't Tsunade help with that?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

First I want to debate unrestricted Onoki vs these two. How do the Akatsuki fodder counter this?

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Just like every other Kage level. Fast execution attacks or interference

 

[Beans2]

They don't? I said with jinton they lose, although didn't Tsunade help with that?

I misinterpreted what you said in your other post. Thought you said OP could keep SM restricted but could unrestrict Jinton but it was the other way around. No Tsunade didn't enhance that Jinton.

Anyway, here is why Onoki and Jiraiya win.

Onoki will start the battle by creating a rock golem, and creating a clone. The clone will go on top of the rock golem like

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, then lighten the golem to give it a speed boost and enable it to fly. However, when the golem attacks with its fists, Onoki will

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. The rock golem is useful for a lot of things here:

-Smashing Sasori's puppets.
-Punching away iron sand blocks.
-Smashing Kakuzu if he makes contact (Domu can't save him.)
-Can be used to

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the team from Katon or Fuuton.

While Onoki does this, Jiraiya summons Gamabunta. Onoki can lighten Gamabunta to give him incredible leaping power allowing him to cross tremendous distances very quickly, so he simply jumps, then gauges his landing so that he lands on top of the target, and at the last minute Onoki (on top of Gamabunta) weighs him down, the food cart destroyer + weighted boulder combo crushing absolutely everything in its path. Bunta would prove very useful against iron sand since he can spray IS with his toad oil, which

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. Toad Oil Flame bullet can also be used to overpower Kakuzu's katon+fuuton combo, and water bullets can kill Sasori once Iron Sand is out of the picture.

Onoki and Jiraiya have a combo where Jiraiya uses Yomi Numa on a large scale, then Onoki uses

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to push the swamp above ground, where it will flow everywhere like lava from a volcano and

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, immobilizing him and making him an easy target for the next attack.

I honestly see nothing the Akatsuki can do to win this.

-Large iron sand blocks punched away by golem, or disabled with toad oil.
-Iron Sand World Order or iron sand bullets are tanked by Jiraiya's hair.
-100 puppets get raped by Art of the Raging Lion's Mane, burnt to crisp with Toad Oil Flame Bullet, smashed by the rock golem, crushed by Gamabunta...BTW, poison won't be as effective against a giant toad summon as it would be against a human target since Gamabunta has much more blood in his system therefore it would dilute the poison. A huge amount of poison would have to enter Bunta's bloodstream before it kills him and Sasori doesn't have a way of doing that fast enough.
-Katon or Fuuton from Kakuzu is tanked by the rock golem.
-Raiton: Gian is dodged.
-If Kakuzu's threads somehow catch Onoki, he can use the weighted boulder jutsu to make them fall away [

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]. Threads won't ever reach Jiraiya since he can burn them away with Katon before they reach him.

All of Kakuzu and Sasori's offensive moves are countered, and they can't deal with Gamabunta and the rock golem while simultaneously being pressured by Jiraiya and Onoki (both of whom can use clones to increase the versatility of their attacks.) Jiraiya and Onoki make a good team and complement each other's abilities, whereas Kakuzu's large scale attacks will only hurt Sasori's puppets should he choose to use them.

Overall Jiraiya and Onoki win mid difficulty, and this is not even factoring in that Jiraiya starts with Ma and Pa summoned in which case Jiraiya can fly away while they prep frog song, then comes back and one shots with the genjutsu.

 

[Beans2]

Just like every other Kage level. Fast execution attacks or interference

With what jutsu? The fact that Onoki can shield himself with a rock golem removes the possibility of either Akatsuki disrupting the Jinton in the small window of time where it's being prepared.

 

[Zexion~]

Dear god thats terrible strategies, I'll counter later.

 

[Beans2]

Dear god thats terrible strategies, I'll counter later.

Don't even bother posting if you have nothing to contribute to the discussion.

 

[Apêx1]

Sasori and Kakuzu win this high diff. Sasori and Kakuzu are a rather powerful team, Jiraiya and Onoki don't augment each other much. I'm guessing this is manga intel.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

With what jutsu? The fact that Onoki can shield himself with a rock golem removes the possibility of either Akatsuki disrupting the Jinton in the small window of time where it's being prepared.

Um no. Onoki isnt reacting to IS fast propellant with that stance. Nor a defense capable of blocking them. Not unless anyone in team 2 has a defense physical stronger then Chiyo chakra shield, it gets penetrated.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Jiraiya and Onoki win with relative ease

 

[TRE MERCER]

Jiraiya solo's. Lmao @ post 15. Beans strategies be all types of funny.​