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Hello guys, I would like estabilish Onmyoudon being absolute nullifier to any Ninjutsu when it comes in contact with it. First let me clear misconception based on considering Black fluid substance as Onmyoudon. Here I go:
The only arguable situation is this:
^^ In this case Obito was distracted by Minato appearing in front of attacking Sasuke and Naruto, Tobirama says it all "He was distracted"
Possible and likely conclusion:
- Onmyoudon is most likely not automatic defence so it depends on right timming to work on Space Time Ninjutsu... exactly timming is key factor here
- No enough fast reaction time does not allow Onmyoudon to be used in time and it won't work
Even scan in Current chapter showing Kamui working on Sphere made of black fluid substance:
proves that Onmyoudon is not automatic and has to be controlled directly, not as passive ability.
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Black fluid substance != Onmyoudon
Black fluid substance used by Obito as Ten tails host to shape it into any weapon/shield or other desired shape has nothing Common with Onmyoudon. Sounds crazy, right ? However it is truth and it is only coinsidence that black fluid substance contain Onmyoudon which nullifies any Ninjutsu upon contact.
Explanation for black fluid substance:
^^ Hiruzen figures it out right away so we get nice and straight explanation. Black fluid substance is nothing more then combination of four or more basic nature elements, it is bascially much more advanced Dust release, but instead of using three elements, it uses four or five elements.
Proof for Onmyoudon!= Black fluid substance:
^^ According to Tobirama, even dead moving corpses made of ashes created by Edo Tensei technique could be destroyed with no way to regenerate if Onmyoudon was used. Yet we can see Hiruzen coming back being in fine and all shape.
Here is black fluid substance with Onmyoudon added to it used:
Difference is hard to notice at first as black fluid substance was just used again and it didn't look as anything more was used to it. However later we found out that it was used and that is the reason why Minato can not regenerate his hand. (You can find in one of scan above posted by me.)
Explanation for black fluid substance:
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^^ Hiruzen figures it out right away so we get nice and straight explanation. Black fluid substance is nothing more then combination of four or more basic nature elements, it is bascially much more advanced Dust release, but instead of using three elements, it uses four or five elements.
Proof for Onmyoudon!= Black fluid substance:
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^^ According to Tobirama, even dead moving corpses made of ashes created by Edo Tensei technique could be destroyed with no way to regenerate if Onmyoudon was used. Yet we can see Hiruzen coming back being in fine and all shape.
Here is black fluid substance with Onmyoudon added to it used:
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Difference is hard to notice at first as black fluid substance was just used again and it didn't look as anything more was used to it. However later we found out that it was used and that is the reason why Minato can not regenerate his hand. (You can find in one of scan above posted by me.)
Onmyoudon explained in true essence of it
Now I am sure the most of you reading it wonder then what the hell is this Onmyoudon. Well it is simple ability or power to erase any Ninjutsu attack upon contact with NO PHYSICAL FORM. Onmyoudon is ability based on Yin-Yang release manipulation, it could be described as Yin-Yang release in essence and it would be correct answer.
Onmyoudon:
Onmyoudon is ability based on Yin-Yang release manipulation with the best description as Dark and Light fires representing Yin and yang elements used together erase something. It is basically same as Creation of all things ability but opposite to it, so instead of creating it erases.
Onmyoudon:
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Onmyoudon is ability based on Yin-Yang release manipulation with the best description as Dark and Light fires representing Yin and yang elements used together erase something. It is basically same as Creation of all things ability but opposite to it, so instead of creating it erases.
Misconception: Onmyoudon does not work on Kamui
It is common misconception used by people to claim that Onmyoudon does not work on Kamui technique as it need PHYSCIAL CONTACT. Of course Bolded part is assumption and it results from people confusing Black fluid substance with Onmyoudon.
Here is scan of Kamui technique:
Kamui technique is labeled under NINJUTSU Category, so it already reach condition needed for Onmyoudon to work on it. However some people will use Kamui's hype to argue that there is no defence against Kamui and for ironic part it is true and I won't argue with author.
The problem which creates confusion here is Onmyoudon is NO form or shape defence. It basically just erases any Ninjutsu upon contact with it... it can be interpretted as bascially reverse process of executing technique or spliting/atomizing contents used for certain Ninjutsu forcing it to be canceled by itself.
Now what the defence is ? According to dictionary defnition of "defence" word, defence is way of blocking, ressisting or tanking something. Onmyoudon is bascially same as Kamui under these conditions, it has no use to block something just avoid or erases something.
Now after we went through this explanation, Let's take a look as Kamui technique work:
Distortion effect happens around certain limited area of space by special Space time barrier placed by Kamui user with centre of barrier being point at which user focus/lock his eyes on.
The point is The space barrier had to be first created before it closes along with target drawn everything to it's centre which is black void/hole which send everything to other dimenssion. Onmyoudon as no physcial stuff will get in contact with kamui the moment Space time barrier is place around the target(user/opponent). Now the only problem is if Onmyoudon can be used as automatic defence or has to be activated by user.
Here is scan of Kamui technique:
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Kamui technique is labeled under NINJUTSU Category, so it already reach condition needed for Onmyoudon to work on it. However some people will use Kamui's hype to argue that there is no defence against Kamui and for ironic part it is true and I won't argue with author.
The problem which creates confusion here is Onmyoudon is NO form or shape defence. It basically just erases any Ninjutsu upon contact with it... it can be interpretted as bascially reverse process of executing technique or spliting/atomizing contents used for certain Ninjutsu forcing it to be canceled by itself.
Now what the defence is ? According to dictionary defnition of "defence" word, defence is way of blocking, ressisting or tanking something. Onmyoudon is bascially same as Kamui under these conditions, it has no use to block something just avoid or erases something.
Now after we went through this explanation, Let's take a look as Kamui technique work:
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Distortion effect happens around certain limited area of space by special Space time barrier placed by Kamui user with centre of barrier being point at which user focus/lock his eyes on.
The point is The space barrier had to be first created before it closes along with target drawn everything to it's centre which is black void/hole which send everything to other dimenssion. Onmyoudon as no physcial stuff will get in contact with kamui the moment Space time barrier is place around the target(user/opponent). Now the only problem is if Onmyoudon can be used as automatic defence or has to be activated by user.
Misconception: Onmyoudon does not work on FTG
It is common misconception used by people to claim that Onmyoudon does not work on FTG technique as it need PHYSCIAL CONTACT. Of course Bolded part is assumption and it results from people confusing Black fluid substance with Onmyoudon and I explained that part already.
People use this argument often to debunk statement abou Onmyoudon being able to nullify any Ninjutsu. However it is wrong and baseless assumption as FTG is not even mean as attack technique... it won't even affect user directly but it is just mean of transport allowing user of FTG to appear in any place marked by him he wants to be at the moment. Of course FTG can be used as mean to allow someone to attack enemy with surprise effect or to be used in combination with offensive technique to get opponent.
However main point stands that FTG was not created as offensive technique which could even affect enemy directly. There is no even way for Onmyoudon to work on it because technique itself will never come in contact with enemy... only mark placed on Onmyoudon's user is affecting user directly... but it is just stuff which allow technique to work better ... nothing more. The moment FTG's user appears in front of you... is the moment when technique ends so Onmyoudon has no way to nullify it.
Space Time barrier created by Fourth Hokage is based basically on same concept. It is no way used to attack opponent so Onmyoudon has NO WAY to comes in contact with it. Of course Space Time barrier can be used to redirect attack... but then only this attack will be nullified upon contact while barrier will not as it is beyond user's range.
The biggest and essential difference between Kamui and FTG technique is that first technique involves target directly while second technique NEVER COME IN DIRECT CONTACT WITH TARGET... is only mean to transport you to other place.
People use this argument often to debunk statement abou Onmyoudon being able to nullify any Ninjutsu. However it is wrong and baseless assumption as FTG is not even mean as attack technique... it won't even affect user directly but it is just mean of transport allowing user of FTG to appear in any place marked by him he wants to be at the moment. Of course FTG can be used as mean to allow someone to attack enemy with surprise effect or to be used in combination with offensive technique to get opponent.
However main point stands that FTG was not created as offensive technique which could even affect enemy directly. There is no even way for Onmyoudon to work on it because technique itself will never come in contact with enemy... only mark placed on Onmyoudon's user is affecting user directly... but it is just stuff which allow technique to work better ... nothing more. The moment FTG's user appears in front of you... is the moment when technique ends so Onmyoudon has no way to nullify it.
Space Time barrier created by Fourth Hokage is based basically on same concept. It is no way used to attack opponent so Onmyoudon has NO WAY to comes in contact with it. Of course Space Time barrier can be used to redirect attack... but then only this attack will be nullified upon contact while barrier will not as it is beyond user's range.
The biggest and essential difference between Kamui and FTG technique is that first technique involves target directly while second technique NEVER COME IN DIRECT CONTACT WITH TARGET... is only mean to transport you to other place.
The only arguable situation is this:
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^^ In this case Obito was distracted by Minato appearing in front of attacking Sasuke and Naruto, Tobirama says it all "He was distracted"
Possible and likely conclusion:
- Onmyoudon is most likely not automatic defence so it depends on right timming to work on Space Time Ninjutsu... exactly timming is key factor here
- No enough fast reaction time does not allow Onmyoudon to be used in time and it won't work
Even scan in Current chapter showing Kamui working on Sphere made of black fluid substance:
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proves that Onmyoudon is not automatic and has to be controlled directly, not as passive ability.
Summary :
- Onmyoudon and Black fluid substance are not the same thing
- Black fluid substance is combination of four or more basic elements used together... basically advanced version of Dust release which is Bloodline expansion.
- Onmyoudon is ability using Yin and Yang elements in combination to erases Ninjutsu upon contact. It can be only described as light and dark fire used together so IT HAS NOT PHYSICAL FORM.
- Black fluid substance can be used in combination with Onmyoudon or without it.
- Onmyoudon works on Kamui as Space time barrier is needed to be placed around the target before target is wraped, the moment barrier is placed Onmyoudon nullify it canceling Kamui
- Onmyoudon can not nullify FTG not due to it's inability but due to FTG not AFFECTING target DIRECTLY. Instead it affect target indirectly as it is only used as mean of transport. Space Time barrier will also be never nullified as Onmyoudon will never come in contact with it as barrier is put up beyond range.
- The biggest and essential difference between Kamui and FTG technique is that first technique involves target directly while second technique NEVER COME IN DIRECT CONTACT WITH TARGET
- Neither Onmyoudon or Preta Path working on Kamui could debunk Kamui's hype. Onmyoudon is no defence as it is just eraser while Preta Path is nullifier but working differently by absorbing chakra from technique forcing technique to be cancel itself while Onmyoudon does not affect chakra but Ninjutsu as all.
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