Only Madara can beat Obito (Pre Jubi)

[Javaweb]

Not only him Kakashi too

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Minato, Tobirama and BM Naruto possibly. Depends which Obito really.

Minato and Kakashi.
Tobirama lacks the FTG level 2. FTG itself isnt enough.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

How? Madara can control him.

Like when obito broke his control even when he had a gaping hole in his chest? Obito would ignore that crap at full health.

 

[Trollasaur]

I don't understand the question... he's going to fight. Besides, you're probably the only one to consider madara's control in a vs. thread.

All I'm saying is that Obito cannot beat Madara due to Madara being able to control him, Obito could only change his handsigns and he couldn't fully escape, he can't fully escape Madaras control.

I'm done for today.

 

[Murasame]

Madara can control him. (pre jubi)

Lel he was severely injured by Kakashi and he still overpowered his control so thats not going to work on a fresh obito. I don't know who wins between who but Madara isn't winning by controlling him thats all I know.

 

[Trollasaur]

Lel he was severely injured by Kakashi and he still overpowered his control so thats not going to work on a fresh obito. I don't know who wins between who but Madara isn't winning by controlling him thats all I know.

If this is true, than Obito beats Madara

 

[The Necromancer]

All I'm saying is that Obito cannot beat Madara due to Madara being able to control him, Obito could only change his handsigns and he couldn't fully escape, he can't fully escape Madaras control.

I'm done for today.

Madara only even slightly controlled him due to Kakashi nearly killing him with a Raikiri. If not, Madara would have done it the second he was revived. Health Obito isn't being controlled.

 

[3MESSIAH]

If this is true, than Obito beats Madara

obito does beat madara. no counter for kamui,as simple as that.

only if preta path can cancel kamui but i somehow doubt it

 

[Fresco]

Because the jubi was present and he could seal it him, without the Jubi present I don't know what he would do to escape, and if he does escape what's he going to do izinagi?

You're not looking at it the right way, in my opinion. Who is to say Madara can focus on Obito when he is occupied with his Bijuu and/or Gedo Mazo? I haven't been keeping up with the manga like I should so forgive me if I'm wrong here, but like Necromancer said, Obito overpowered him. That was a taxed Obito btw; meaning, he wasn't at full power because he had just got done taking a Raikiri to the chest plus the constant fighting he had been doing against 4 high caliber opponents. Not to mention the chakra it takes to control the Jinchuriki, Gedo Mazo, and utilizing Rinnegan. So how would Madara's will affect a healthy Obito?

Given all the scenarios that I can come up with, I don't see Madara winning. For example, at the beginning of the fight, Obito can go intangible or teleport to his dimension for a bit. I doubt Madara would be able to harm Obito in anyway. At this point, Madara would have to focus on Obito's Bijuu or Gedo Mazo. Madara wouldn't sense Obito until the last second (because Obito's signature is vanished when he goes into his dimension) and evidence suggests that Obito can teleport objects almost instantaneously if he wants to. I'm indicating Obito could ambush Madara.

 

[Trollasaur]

obito does beat madara. no counter for kamui,as simple as that.

only if preta path can cancel kamui but i somehow doubt it

I only thought Madara could beat Obito due to him controlling him, no other reason though.

 

[Murasame]

If this is true, than Obito beats Madara

It is U_U Unless someone else proves me wrong and also I agree with what Necromancer said. Obito most likely wins probably.. Kamui is hax.

 

[Da Best Ever]

i think rinnegan obito can be beaten by hashirama and of course madara, and minato, and dsm kabuto, if obito has the 6 jinchuriki than kabuto gets an qual amout of shinobi i would give kabuto, nagato, itachi, 3rd raikage, muu, 2nd mizukage, and maybe gaara's dad but the jinchuriki would lose easily to just nagato and itachi...the 3rd raikage went toe to toe with the 8 tails, muu can destroy them in one shot and the mizukage has so many tricks but without paths and edo i give it to dsm kabuto

 

[Da Best Ever]

It is U_U Unless someone else proves me wrong and also I agree with what Necromancer said. Obito most likely wins probably.. Kamui is hax.

madara knws all obito's abilities, obito did have kamui when madara was alive and the zetsu has seen it all this time, if madara has planned for everything else dnt u think madara had planned for betrayal on obito;s part like he just did...which is black zetsu...obito loses just because of black zetsu

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

MS Obito beats everyone 1v1. Everyone. Madara included.

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OT: Minato, EMS Sasuke (actually trying and not holding back), Hashirama, EMS Madara.

 

[Da Best Ever]

madara knws all about kamui he seen obito use that tech before u guys forget...if madara has planned this much dnt u think he would have planned for obito's betrayal too...u guys think madara's naruto or something fighting off shear emotion, madara is the creator of this war and made obito who he is today...obito nagato was invincible after praising jiraiya for putting up a god fight, and zetsu said nagato was unbeatable even in his weakened state, why would obito and zetsu say those things while has kamui??? u guys rely on kamui to win every time...what u guys fail to realize is kamui doesnt do any damag all obito does is warp them to the other dimension, and if and when he does madara like that he will get his ass whooped and try and go back to the real world

 

[Gdamon]

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OT: Minato, EMS Sasuke (actually trying and not holding back), Hashirama, EMS Madara.

Minato saved the village, but he didn't stop Obito from gathering the tailed beast and making chaos...

it wasn't even a real fight, Obito was trying to capture Minato and he landed one blow...

considering the future events, Obito probably would still be able to fight against Minato...

 

[Gdamon]

madara knws all about kamui he seen obito use that tech before u guys forget...if madara has planned this much dnt u think he would have planned for obito's betrayal too...u guys think madara's naruto or something fighting off shear emotion, madara is the creator of this war and made obito who he is today...obito nagato was invincible after praising jiraiya for putting up a god fight, and zetsu said nagato was unbeatable even in his weakened state, why would obito and zetsu say those things while has kamui??? u guys rely on kamui to win every time...what u guys fail to realize is kamui doesnt do any damag all obito does is warp them to the other dimension, and if and when he does madara like that he will get his ass whooped and try and go back to the real world

if he Kamui-ed Madara, he wouldn't be able to get out...

if he was an EDO, he would live there forever...

if he was alive, he would probably go insane (assuming he isn't already) and then die...

 

[Naijakid]

-Can absorb Chakra (=Jutsu)
-Inhuman physical strength
-Insane speed
-Insane regeneration
-Hashirama's Cells and Senju DNA
-Hashirama's Sage Mode or at least his Senjutsu Chakra.
-Hashirama's Mokuton (possibly Shinsuusenju)
-Insanely strong Katon

from my Madara thread.

I think it's 55-45 towards Obito (without the Black Zetsu sh!t lol)

And yet kakashi roflstomped him :snick:

 

[KCMNaruto]

Wrong , let's me correct it:

Only Sage of six paths beats Juubi Jin Obito

However SM Hashirama, Current Madara, BSM Naruto, BM Minato, Tobirama and EMS Sasuke and healthy Nagato(If he is considered as character) can beat Pre Juubi Jin Obito.

"Can beat" - does not mean that they emerge out of battles against Obito always victorious. It mean that they have great chance to win... but Obito has also chance to beat them. Ratio between chance for victory and loss is key here... for example SM hashirama and Current Madara beats Obito 8/10 of times. BM Minato beats Obito 9/10 of times. BSM Naruto beats Obito 7/10 of times. Tobirana can beat Obito 7/10 of times. EMS Sasuke can beat Obito 6/10 of times and Healthy Nagato beats Obito 6/10 of times.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Madara failed to control wounded obito, its off the table for him to pull it on full powered one.